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Help! How do I know if my non-EU B-permit is restricted or not?

Help! How do I know if my non-EU B-permit is restricted or not?

I have a non-EU B permit. I just found a new job in the same city. I saw there are two types of B-permit: Long-term, which doesn’t have any restriction on company, and extendable. And Short-term: project based, and only for a certain period of tem.

My question: how can I tell whether mine is long-term or short-term. Does it show anywhere on my work permit?

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Old 19.08.2010, 15:17
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Re: Help! How do I know if my non-EU B-permit is restricted or not?

Usually the name of the company is written on the permit if it is linked to it (or in the letter that was sent together with the permit)
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Old 19.08.2010, 15:24
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Re: Help! How do I know if my non-EU B-permit is restricted or not?

Hey, check on the back cover! In French/German it explains what you can or cannot do. Mine says I can change job or profession, so there you go.
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Re: Help! How do I know if my non-EU B-permit is restricted or not?

thank you very much guys..

I have called the federal immigration, and they said my B-permit is normal permit, I can change job freely. however they also said each canton have different limitation on B-permit switching jobs. so it is best you check with your canton. I then called Geneva immigration office, they said my permit is linked to my current job.

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I then called Geneva immigration office, they said my permit is linked to my current job.
How can they do that? I don't know of any further quotas once you have your permit. If in the back it says you can change jobs/professions freely, you are entitled to do just that. Federal law overwrites cantonal law, so whatever your permit (valid in all CH) entitles you to do shouldn't be restricted by the canton, right? Please correct me if I'm wrong. But this sounds preposterous!
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How can they do that? I don't know of any further quotas once you have your permit. If in the back it says you can change jobs/professions freely, you are entitled to do just that. Federal law overwrites cantonal law, so whatever your permit (valid in all CH) entitles you to do shouldn't be restricted by the canton, right? Please correct me if I'm wrong. But this sounds preposterous!
We correct you then. Some permits are tied the the specific job and freedom to change jobs is not an immediate option. Permits can also be tied to canton. Permits are issued by the canton, as is pretty much everything in these parts.
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We correct you then. Some permits are tied the the specific job and freedom to change jobs is not an immediate option. Permits can also be tied to canton. Permits are issued by the canton, as is pretty much everything in these parts.
But if it says in the back that it's valid in the entire country and you can change jobs/profession -- can that be limited too? Mine actually says: "no limitations apply"...
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But if it says in the back that it's valid in the entire country and you can change jobs/profession -- can that be limited too? Mine actually says: "no limitations apply"...
The backside of my (Non-EU) permit only says "SelbstErwe... ist bewilligungpfli..." which essentially means that for me "Self Employment" is subject to approval. It doesn't say anything if I can (or cannot) change the jobs/profession.What can I (or rather the OP) make out of that.
Sorry, but being here for 2 years already, I have stopped assuming things
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But if it says in the back that it's valid in the entire country and you can change jobs/profession -- can that be limited too? Mine actually says: "no limitations apply"...
Is this written in English "no limitations apply"? Mine is an unlimited B-Ausweis and in German it is written as "Mit Erwerbstätigkeit".. With this I am able to change jobs (I did as this is my third job) & Kanton (I did as this is my third Kanton)... Only what they check is a valid job contract at the time of renewal...
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But if it says in the back that it's valid in the entire country and you can change jobs/profession -- can that be limited too? Mine actually says: "no limitations apply"...
???!!!!!

Well obviously if it says that, then that is the case. Not all permits say this.
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???!!!!!

Well obviously if it says that, then that is the case. Not all permits say this.
I didn't know that. That's why I said anyone in doubt should check the back cover. Weird that some permits are less clear...

BTW mine has "Aucune autorisation n'est requise pour changer d'emploi ou de profession." // "Für de Stellen- und Berufswechsel wird keine Bewilligung benödtigt."
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Usually the name of the company is written on the permit if it is linked to it (or in the letter that was sent together with the permit)
The letter I got (L to B conversion) from the BFM has my company name and working location on it. However when I asked BFM, quoting the ref. no. of the exact letter, this is what they have to say.

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Since you have been granted a work permit without further conditions, you are allowed to change employers within Switzerland without further approval (Art. 38 Abs. 2 AuG).
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