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Change job with a B permit

I am a non-EU B permit holder, and my B permit is associated with my company. I am thinking about changing my job in Switzerland. Am I allowed to transfer my B permit and work for this new company? Or I have to ask my new employer to apply for a new B permit as my current permit is related to my current employer?
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Old 22.03.2010, 21:58
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Re: Change job with a B permit

Search the forum. There are a lot of posts for your specific query. In short you need the new employer to apply for a permit. And after reading about the quotas I think it is difficult to get one now.
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Search the forum. There are a lot of posts for your specific query. In short you need the new employer to apply for a permit. And after reading about the quotas I think it is difficult to get one now.
Not true if you have an unlimited non-EU B Permit, read Art. 38 Abs. 2 AuG (http://www.sz.ch/xml_1/internet/de/a...2663/p1584.cfm)

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Personen mit einer Aufenthaltsbewilligung, die zur selbstständigen oder unselbstständigen Erwerbstätigkeit zugelassen sind, können ihre Tätigkeit in der ganzen Schweiz ausüben, Sie können die Stelle ohne weitere Bewilligung wechseln.
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Not true if you have an unlimited non-EU B Permit, read Art. 38 Abs. 2 AuG (http://www.sz.ch/xml_1/internet/de/a...2663/p1584.cfm)

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Personen mit einer Aufenthaltsbewilligung, die zur selbstständigen oder unselbstständigen Erwerbstätigkeit zugelassen sind, können ihre Tätigkeit in der ganzen Schweiz ausüben, Sie können die Stelle ohne weitere Bewilligung wechseln.
That is true but the OP states that his Permit is linked to the employer. So it cannot be an unlimited permit.
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I am a non-EU B permit holder, and my B permit is associated with my company. I am thinking about changing my job in Switzerland. Am I allowed to transfer my B permit and work for this new company? Or I have to ask my new employer to apply for a new B permit as my current permit is related to my current employer?
Many thanks!
1 - you can change job on B permit (advantage of B on L)
2 - The new employer applies for the permit transfer
3 - If your permit is 3+ years old, its transfer is easy (based on my experience)
4 - Your new employer cant apply for a new B permit until you de-register your current one and leave Switzerland.

5 - Based on the present situation- "continue in your present job for some more time"

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Re: Change job with a B permit

Thank you guys so much!

I have the new credit card B permit. My employer's name is only mentioned as part of the code on the back of the card. The code is the combination of my employer name, my birthday, nationality, my name. I am not sure if it is unlimited or limited.

I will stay in my current job as long as I could. Hopefully the transfer of B permit is easier than having the new employer to apply a brand new one.


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1 - you can change job on B permit (advantage of B on L)
2 - The new employer applies for the permit transfer
3 - If your permit is 3+ years old, its transfer is easy (based on my experience)
4 - Your new employer cant apply for a new B permit until you de-register your current one and leave Switzerland.

5 - Based on the present situation- "continue in your present job for some more time"

Hope it helps !!
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Possiblity to get unrestricted B permit(change of Job allowed) after 3 years

Hi All,
My Husband and me (dependent) working on Restricted B permit from last 3 years. We used to renew every year . This year we applied for renewal , i would like to know is there any possibilities to get Unrestricted/Open B permit ( change of job allowed) for my husband so that he can change job without any new/fresh B permit application by new employer.
When/How/By whom to change Restricted B permit to Unrestricted B permit.
Awaiting for you people suggestions or opinion to convert restricted B permit to Unrestricted B permit

Thanks in advance
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Re: Possiblity to get unrestricted B permit(change of Job allowed) after 3 years

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Hi All,
My Husband and me (dependent) working on Restricted B permit from last 3 years. We used to renew every year . This year we applied for renewal , i would like to know is there any possibilities to get Unrestricted/Open B permit ( change of job allowed) for my husband so that he can change job without any new/fresh B permit application by new employer.
When/How/By whom to change Restricted B permit to Unrestricted B permit.
Awaiting for you people suggestions or opinion to convert restricted B permit to Unrestricted B permit

Thanks in advance

Nope, the restricted B never changes to an open B on renewals.
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non EU B permit - change job, open or closed permit

I read the sticky and searched extensively in the forum. It seems like based on the new rule 1.1.2008, "open" non EU B permit holders are free to change employer (voluntarily resign and take on new jobs included). However, I am not sure if my B permit is "open" or "closed."

I came here last year, so my first permit is already a plastic card format. It only has the word self employment requires authorization on it. No company name is mentioned. But I read on EF that some people have lost the company name on their permits when they changed from paper to plastic, so the fact that I do not have the company name written on the permit doesn't seem to matter much. The company name is also NOT embedded in the code on the back of the plastic card either.

I went back and looked at the "letter" that was sent to me last year - the one that allowed me to go to the consulate to get the entry visa in Chicago. I believe it's the authrization letter. "Ermachtigung zur Visumerteilung (Einreiseerlaubnis)" is the name of the letter. On this letter, it says that my permit is "1402 Jahresaufenthalter (-in)" under the title Zulassungcode. Then under Aufenthaltszweck, it lists my job title and employer. Then under Augenthalsdauer, it says "12 Monate befristet auf 24 Monate."

It seems like I am on a limited B permit to maximum of 24 months from the letter? But on the plastic copy, it says "Augenhaltsbewiligung (B)" and "Mit Erwerbstatigkeit" which according to the sticky makes this a long term work permit subject to quota which would be an "open" permit.

I am confused. Can someone help?
ps. I will be at my current employer for one year before the change of job, so that's not an issue.

Thanks a lot!
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Re: Possiblity to get unrestricted B permit(change of Job allowed) after 3 years

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Nope, the restricted B never changes to an open B on renewals.
That means if a person (Non EU) on restricted B permit until he received C permit ( after 10 years) ,he has to be on restricted B permit ?
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Re: non EU B permit - change job, open or closed permit

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"Ermachtigung zur Visumerteilung (Einreiseerlaubnis)" is the name of the letter. On this letter, it says that my permit is "1402 Jahresaufenthalter (-in)" under the title Zulassungcode. Then under Aufenthaltszweck, it lists my job title and employer. Then under Augenthalsdauer, it says "12 Monate befristet auf 24 Monate."


I am confused. Can someone help?
ps. I will be at my current employer for one year before the change of job, so that's not an issue.

Thanks a lot!
The Code 1402 means its open to change job.
You will not have any problem , as a precautionary measure call your Kantonal Migrationsamt and they would tell you.
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The Code 1402 means its open to change job.
You will not have any problem , as a precautionary measure call your Kantonal Migrationsamt and they would tell you.
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Thanks a lot! Will email them. Does anyone know if it's OK to email them in English? (Zurich one that is).

btw, then why does it says 12 months to maximum of 24 months on my letter? confused...
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Re: Possiblity to get unrestricted B permit(change of Job allowed) after 3 years

restricted permit would change to unrestricted ones after some time (which seems to be random rather than a certain period) but certainly not if employer is an Indian outsourcing company.These companies make sure that all of their employees get the restricted work permit.
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restricted permit would change to unrestricted ones after some time (which seems to be random rather than a certain period) but certainly not if employer is an Indian outsourcing company.These companies make sure that all of their employees get the restricted work permit.
MY husband works for Swiss company not Indian out source company. Do we need to ask them for unrestricted after x no of years , Do u know how many years?
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Re: Possiblity to get unrestricted B permit(change of Job allowed) after 3 years

Then you have good chance of getting it and as I said its a random process.You can ask it would do no harm.
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Then you have good chance of getting it and as I said its a random process.You can ask it would do no harm.
Thanks TradeTicker, do you to whom to contact to tell them change clsoed B permti to Open B permit , I means responsible office to contact?
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Then you have good chance of getting it and as I said its a random process.You can ask it would do no harm.

I don't think so, OP check the numerous threads on this, there are restircted quoters on permits for non eu. Anyone who says you have a good chance of getting once is talking rubbish, sorry.

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Very recent unrestricted B-permit approvals?
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I don't think so, OP check the numerous threads on this, there are restircted quoters on permits for non eu. Anyone who says you have a good chance of getting once is talking rubbish, sorry.

eg

Very recent unrestricted B-permit approvals?
But Change our permit from restricted to unrestricted will not fall under quota restriction right
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Re: Possiblity to get unrestricted B permit(change of Job allowed) after 3 years

I think someone is not going to be happy until they hear what they want to hear.

Why don't you just call up the Cantonal office and ask them? Or ask your Swiss firm if it is possible? Ofcourse, just don't tell that you want an open permit because you want to change your job..... hey... hang on... maybe you can... maybe they offer you that office with a view, oh man! those beautiful snow clad mountains. While they are at it, they may as well give you that humongous pay rise... daimn.... think of all those diamonds, that glittering billion carat stone. i am already blinded.
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I think someone is not going to be happy until they hear what they want to hear.

Why don't you just call up the Cantonal office and ask them? Or ask your Swiss firm if it is possible? Ofcourse, just don't tell that you want an open permit because you want to change your job..... hey... hang on... maybe you can... maybe they offer you that office with a view, oh man! those beautiful snow clad mountains. While they are at it, they may as well give you that humongous pay rise... daimn.... think of all those diamonds, that glittering billion carat stone. i am already blinded.
Not like that. As a human being we always try to expect positive results.how can He ask his current employer? It's not possible so We r trying alternative ways for this. He is not happy with the work and environment
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