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FBI criminal record request

Hello,

I requested a copy of my criminal record from the US (well proof that I dont have one). I sent fingerprints with the documents as well.

I am wondering how long it takes to receive in the mail as I need it to continue my permit process.

Does anyone have any experience with this?

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Old 15.10.2010, 14:41
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Re: FBI criminal record request

I also had to do this and I think it took 6-8 weeks, but they tell you it can take up to 12 weeks.
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Re: FBI criminal record request

Did you do your own fingerprints as well?
I did my own and I am kind of worried that they wont be accepted.

Were you able to work while waiting?
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Old 15.10.2010, 15:24
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Re: FBI criminal record request

I had mine done at the Zurich police station. They took me in a back room behind a big gated entrance. I felt guilty of a crime I never committed just being in that room. Anyway, they took my prints (I think it cost about 50 bucks or something). I'm not positive, but I think I remember reading that the prints had to be notarized. So, I don't know if the FBI will process it for you, but my guess is that it will get rejected. You might give them a call and check to see if you need notarized prints.

In reference to working. Technically, you're not allowed to work until you get all this processed, but you can bypass this temporarily by going and getting a notarized letter stating that you haven't committed any illegal acts (as temporary substitution for the FBI report). This is what I did and got my residence/work permit faster, which allowed me to work sooner.
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Re: FBI criminal record request

Ha ha.. ok it is not funny but I went throught the exact same thing with the Zurich police, taken through the gate, though the back door and fingerprinted while a person just recently arrested waiting in the wings.. ; )

Anway it took me three months to receive my FBI report from the US and I had the fingers done at the Zurich police station. To be safe I would suggest you have them done professionally to avoid any further delays.

Good luck.. it is a painful waiting game.
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In reference to working. Technically, you're not allowed to work until you get all this processed, but you can bypass this temporarily by going and getting a notarized letter stating that you haven't committed any illegal acts (as temporary substitution for the FBI report). This is what I did and got my residence/work permit faster, which allowed me to work sooner.
What sort of notarized letter? From whom? Especially if the FBI thing takes 12 weeks, I might need to go that route myself at first.
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Re: FBI criminal record request

I also can say that you are not suppose to work while you do not have a permit. My old employer was a law firm and the lawyer said of course you could maybe get away with it but you don't want to jeopardize your status. Actually the lawyer said I shouldn't even be in Switzerland so I was stuck back in the US for 3 1/2 months. I wish I would have known about that notarized letter when I was waiting for the stupid FBI report.
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Re: FBI criminal record request

Sorry one last thing, as he mentioned above, the form which required your fingerprints had to be signed and stamped by the office taking the fingerprints, i.e. zurich police. Did you use the official form? If not, I recommend getting the official form, going to the police station and resubmitting the application but you might want to call the FBI first as well to ensure your first set were not accepted before submitting a second to avoid a duplication or confusion.
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Re: FBI criminal record request

I actually found out about this "loophole" kind of at the last minute. I have all my paperwork at home, so I'll check and get back to you about the letter and where you can do it at. I guess there are sometimes random checks at places of businesses to make sure everyone working is "legal." If you were to be found working with out proper documents you would be screwed.
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Sorry one last thing, as he mentioned above, the form which required your fingerprints had to be signed and stamped by the office taking the fingerprints, i.e. zurich police. Did you use the official form? If not, I recommend getting the official form, going to the police station and resubmitting the application but you might want to call the FBI first as well to ensure your first set were not accepted before submitting a second to avoid a duplication or confusion.
Funny thing that, in my case it was at a police station in a relatively small German city. The nice but not-too-much-English-speaking police officer put my fingerprints onto the paper that I printed from the FBI website. He then did sign it and put the office's address on it with a rubber stamp. Afterwards I realized that he hadn't written my name and SSN on the paper, so I did that before sending it.

So I think they'll accept it, and if they don't I'm not sure how much more I can do. (Fill out my name before taking the form to the station? Travel someplace with a larger police station and more impressive stamping apparatus?) On the other hand, I'm not entirely certain that they should, if that makes sense.

Actually the FBI website gave me the impression that they did not care overly much about having the prints certified. I was mostly worried about the prints being rejected for being smudged or what not.
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Re: FBI criminal record request

i got mine done in the police station and... it was sent back because i filled out the form with the wrong color pen. Yes, they are silly like that and i had to get my fingerprints done again. As far as i know the fingerprinting has to be on cardboard and cannot be on regular printer paper. Also i think you get an individual case number printed on each card. I think you can request on the website they send you one. In the meantime, good luck! I really hope it goes through, but in case it doesn't, the police service costs 40 chf and they repeat it as many times as needed.
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Re: FBI criminal record request

Ohhh this post awakes bad memories . We had to go through the same process as my local HR had no clue about the need for the FBI report??? WHATTTT, it is not like I was the first person ever moving to CH. Anyways now that I have this off my chest entire process took 7 weeks. We also went to the Zurich police to get our fp slapped on the form, paid I believe 70CHF per person and overnighted to the FBI. You will have to send your credit card info with the form, and I was hopping I would see the progress once they charge the $18 per person but the fees are charged after the reports are sent back.
Good luck and lets hope your fp are done correctly otherwise you will have to do it all over again. Bo
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i got mine done in the police station and... it was sent back because i filled out the form with the wrong color pen. Yes, they are silly like that and i had to get my fingerprints done again. As far as i know the fingerprinting has to be on cardboard and cannot be on regular printer paper. Also i think you get an individual case number printed on each card. I think you can request on the website they send you one. In the meantime, good luck! I really hope it goes through, but in case it doesn't, the police service costs 40 chf and they repeat it as many times as needed.
Actually you can dowwload the form from the FBI website. For all overseas the regular paper is fine and no need for the card-form. I have done it this way and it was all fine. Here is everything you need to know including the form: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/bac...kground_checks
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Re: FBI criminal record request

is this bacground check something new for US residents?
I never had to worry about this unless it was about obtaining access to the air side of the Zurich airport....well perhaps it is because I'm basing my being here on a EU passport rather than the US one...
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Curiosity has got me as well. I've been here 10 yrs and never have been asked for finger prints.

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is this bacground check something new for US residents?
I never had to worry about this unless it was about obtaining access to the air side of the Zurich airport....well perhaps it is because I'm basing my being here on a EU passport rather than the US one...
According to the HR department's visa person, I will need a letter stating that I don't have criminal record when I arrive and go to finalize my work permit. My impression is that this is a normal requirement for a non-EU person applying for B or similar permit. But maybe it is a Zürich thing?

The fingerprints come into play because the obvious authority to verify that I do not have a criminal record is the US FBI, and their process demands a set of fingerprints.
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Re: FBI criminal record request

I'm figuring that it would be much easier to spit into a plastic bag and let the Feds have your complete DNA.

I can see the options in future; "Security check sir? This way please, what would you like to offer, fingerprints, semen, blood or some rogue pubes...?"

We're on our way to being bar-coded at birth; make no mistake. The movie Gattaca was spot on.
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Re: FBI criminal record request

Why do you need an FBI criminal record? Is it for something special? I and most Americas here at work, only requeted our criminal record (or the fact that we don't have one) from our local city and it seems acceptable. Much easier. This was to satisfy the permit requirement.
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Re: FBI criminal record request

We have been here 20 months and we had to do it in the process of getting our permit. We did it in the US, however, at our local police station and the whole thing took about 2 weeks, but that was US-US-Zurich, not Zurich-US-Zurich, so I'm sure that makes a big difference.

Maybe it's a new post-9/11 requirement?
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Why do you need an FBI criminal record? Is it for something special? I and most Americas here at work, only requeted our criminal record (or the fact that we don't have one) from our local city and it seems acceptable. Much easier. This was to satisfy the permit requirement.
I actually initially got a state background check done and submitted that, but Kanton Zurich did not accept it for whatever reason and said they wanted an FBI background check.
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