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Old 15.11.2010, 16:00
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question about the process of getting a permit (EU)

p { margin-bottom: 0.08in; } Hello everybody

I have a question regarding the process of getting a permit (as an EU) and I hope someone can help me out (yes, I have searched the forum before asking, but I didn't find exactly what I need to know).


So a month ago, I arrived here in Wetzikon and went to the Gemeinde to register myself and start the process of getting a permit for studying (German language) and possibly getting job a here.
A few days later I received some papers asking me to prove a few things (papers sent from the Migrationsamt), like if I have a job or how I can support myself here without the Swiss Government having to do it for me. So far so good.


I sent the papers back home (in Brazil. I was born there but I am a Portuguese citizen too, by the way) so my mom (she's Portuguese) could fill out the part about who would pay for things in case I ran out of money or something like that. She signed the papers, got it validated by a notat and all, and also sent me some documents I need to show as well, but it ended up taking more time than expected (the Swiss Post took longer than expected) and my roommate here did the favor of calling the Gemeinde and ask if I could send the papers a bit later.



Now, the woman who spoke to my roommate was pretty rude and seemed to not feel like helping at all, but she did give me more time to send the papers. The thing is, she said a Swiss person has to sign that paper about supporting me if needed and that a person from any other country wouldn't count.
That seems pretty weird, since there is nothing being said about it having to be a Swiss person on that paper, nothing at all. And no one told me that on that first day I was at the Gemeinde, either (the woman who registered me there on that day was really nice and helpful, by the way).


Does anyone know if it really has to be a Swiss person who has to sign that paper or it doesn't matter where the person is from, as long as it is proved that he/she has the money to support me in case something happens?


I'm so sorry to have written so much. It was just kinda hard to explain this question

Thanks in advance, guys!!
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Old 15.11.2010, 16:05
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Re: question about the process of getting a permit (EU)

Uh oh. The post could use some editing, but I can't seem to find the "edit" button... so, sorry about that!
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Old 15.11.2010, 22:57
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The thing is, she said a Swiss person has to sign that paper about supporting me if needed and that a person from any other country wouldn't count.
That seems pretty weird .....
Weird and untrue .
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Old 15.11.2010, 23:24
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The thing is, she said a Swiss person has to sign that paper about supporting me if needed and that a person from any other country wouldn't count.
That seems pretty weird
Weird and untrue .
Indeed.

But perhaps something was lost in translation, and what was actually said was that a Swiss resident has to sign that paper - i.e. any guarantee has to be provided by someone local, and that TPTB can hold to task should there be any problems?

Just a thought...
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Old 15.11.2010, 23:51
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Re: question about the process of getting a permit (EU)

Sorry about your experience...I mean...at the gemeinde in Fehraltorf I was even given welcome gifts
My experience...it has to be a swiss because the person signing does not give you the money but guarantees for you so in case you mess up...somebody pays for your mess...my friend signed a 30 000 chf paper and I had no problem getting an L permit even though I had no job...for three months and every three months,until you find a job,you give them the same papers...
if no one is signing for you...you need to show a bank account with a lot of money...
Hope it helps...
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Old 16.11.2010, 07:20
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Sorry about your experience...I mean...at the gemeinde in Fehraltorf I was even given welcome gifts
My experience...it has to be a swiss
No, it doesn't.

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...for three months and every three months,until you find a job,you give them the same papers...
Normally to a maximum of 6 months.

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if no one is signing for you...you need to show a bank account with a lot of money...
A bank account with regular deposits also appears to be ok in some regions.
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Re: question about the process of getting a permit (EU)

So...info from Migrationsamt:
The person paying for you needs to live in the same canton.
I do not think that it needs to be Swiss but also they need a certain income. I had to bring in addition to a paper signed for 30000, the last three salary papers of the person.
Also, if you have the resources,you can actually stay in the country for up to 15 months. The first 3 months you are here as a tourist and after that they renew your L permit every three months until you find a job but they you will not renew it more than one year.
As for a bank account with regular deposit...it does help but not in the beginning because you need to show money before not monthly. I was told by Migrationsamt that you need at least 10 000 for the first 6 months if no one is paying for you...
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Old 16.11.2010, 11:32
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The person paying for you needs to live in the same canton.
Didn't know that but sort of makes sense.

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Also, if you have the resources,you can actually stay in the country for up to 15 months. The first 3 months you are here as a tourist and after that they renew your L permit every three months
You wouldn't have an L permit as a tourist. Nor should you get one as an EU job seeker as the correct permit is a job seekers B permit .

It's clear your situation is not the same as the OP - guessing you are "new" EU. Similar people will find the information userful though .
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Re: question about the process of getting a permit (EU)

I am "new" EU but as far as I know,the only important difference is that we go through the law of priority when it comes to finding a job.
Also, I have an L permit now as a job seeker...It is valid for three months and I have to renew it unless (hopefully) I find a job...
Maybe this info is helpful as well
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I am "new" EU but as far as I know,the only important difference is that we go through the law of priority when it comes to finding a job.
Also, I have an L permit now as a job seeker...It is valid for three months and I have to renew it unless (hopefully) I find a job...
Maybe this info is helpful as well
the other difference is 'old' EU get a B permit but also valid for 3 months. These permits extendable to a max 6 months.
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Old 16.11.2010, 18:43
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Weird and untrue .
Really? Oh, good! I mean, I do have a Swiss friend who already said he could sign the paper for me but if I really don't need it, I would rather have my mother sign the paper for me. Makes me less uncomfortable, you know?

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Indeed.

But perhaps something was lost in translation, and what was actually said was that a Swiss resident has to sign that paper - i.e. any guarantee has to be provided by someone local, and that TPTB can hold to task should there be any problems?

Just a thought...
Yes, I believe it could have been the case of being lost in translation, since my roommate was translating to me what the woman said to her on the phone, and she isn't too eloquent when it comes to English (neither am I, by the way).
Stupid question: what's TPTB?

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Sorry about your experience...I mean...at the gemeinde in Fehraltorf I was even given welcome gifts
My experience...it has to be a swiss because the person signing does not give you the money but guarantees for you so in case you mess up...somebody pays for your mess...my friend signed a 30 000 chf paper and I had no problem getting an L permit even though I had no job...for three months and every three months,until you find a job,you give them the same papers...
if no one is signing for you...you need to show a bank account with a lot of money...
Hope it helps...
Welcome gifts, really? haha that sounds wonderful I only had problems with this one woman on the phone, all the other people have been extremely polite and nice to me.

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No, it doesn't.

Normally to a maximum of 6 months.

A bank account with regular deposits also appears to be ok in some regions.
Thanks for all the replies, everyone!!! It's much appreciated!!
Whenever the Gemeinde gets back to me, I'll come back here and let you all know what happened
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