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Keep off the Grass!!!!

This morning I was out with my dogs for one last bladder empty before going to work. The building across from mine has a better lawn (less pricklies and bugs it seems) than the lawn in front of my building, and the dogs prefer it more too.

A neighbor came around and said in Swiss German, "Hey! your dogs can't be on the grass! You have to take them out!"

I couldn't tell if he was disapproving of the amount of time we were outside, or the fact that we were loitering on the grass, or what. So I said, "What?"
To which he responsed, "You should learn German". I told him, "I'm trying to learn German, but I didn't understand you."

Then he goes on to tell me that the grass is private. Huh? But I live here. He tells me, "But you live in that building (pointing to mine), not in this building (pointing to his)." Say wuh????

I told him that, I didn't see any signs marking the area private or saying that dogs weren't allowed on it. [Afterall, every roaming cat at night pees there too probably. ] The neighbor says to me there don't have to be signs, I'm just supposed to know.

Has anyone ever heard of such a thing?
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Re: Keep off the Grass!!!!

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Old 20.06.2011, 20:27
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Has anyone ever heard of such a thing?
What .... dickheads? Yep.

Some idiots get very possessive over land that isn't theirs.
He was probably worried, that one of your dogs was going to leave a steaming coil, on "his" bit of grass, when you have a perfectly suitable piece in front of your block. Trying to make trouble for the sake of it.

I thought the Swiss prided themselves on their quite unrestricted "right to roam" - next time just point this out to him.

Oh ... and anyone who doesn't stay off the grass, should be stoned.
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If your dogs are bitches, their urine can be quite caustic. This is what our lawn looked like after our neighbour's bitch emptied her bladder on it (you can see the puddle in the background).



We were obliged to install an explosive booby trap to prevent it from happening again. I understand the foul hound is somewhere near Canis Major by now. It seems somehow appropriate.
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Private lawns are not to meant for dogs to urinate. That is why dog walkers take dogs on paths, fields and in the woods on a proper walk.

If you have your own house, you can do what you please with your garden. But someone else's lawn, however open it may be, is PRIVATE property. Just because it not fenced or hedged does not make it any less private.
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Re: Keep off the Grass!!!!

I figure that it depends on the type of grass. If it's putting green manicured grass then sure, keep off it (I'm guessing the neighbourhood cats have lighter gate than you do). If it's just a patch of grass, then as long as no one can tell you've been there it's all good. Put if you're wearing Timberlands and your dogs are really letting off steam and digging up the lawn, he's got a point. Treat the lawn with respect, and just smile and ignore the complainer.
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Lawned areas around apartment buildings are for the use and enjoyments of the inhabitants and for children to play - not really for dog peeing, sorry.
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Re: Keep off the Grass!!!!

yeah. i'm not sure i'd be thrilled with someone taking their dog to crap on my lawn when they have their own lawn to defile.
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I thought the Swiss prided themselves on their quite unrestricted "right to roam" - next time just point this out to him.
This has nothing to do with being Swiss. I have taught my dogs not to pee on my neighbours' front lawns as we walk by. That is their property, lawns they maintain, and I respect that. There are plenty of places to walk dogs where they can do their business, but they are generally not found directly in front of your front door.
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Re: Keep off the Grass!!!!

If in an urban area, I would still think it preferable for a dog to pee on a piece of grass, where at least it soaks in, than on the pavement, where it stays until the sun evaporates it or the rain washes it away, ..... or someone walks through it.

I'm assuming no.2's are brown bagged, anyway.
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If in an urban area, I would still think it preferable for a dog to pee on a piece of grass, where at least it soaks in, than on the pavement, where it stays until the sun evaporates it or the rain washes it away, ..... or someone walks through it.
Soaks in and the grass turns brown. Seeing eye dogs are trained to urinate over the drain covers but any dog can be taught not to urinate on the sidewalk, which I agree, is not nice.
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This has nothing to do with being Swiss. I have taught my dogs not to pee on my neighbours' front lawns as we walk by. That is their property, lawns they maintain, and I respect that. There are plenty of places to walk dogs where they can do their business, but they are generally not found directly in front of your front door.

That would be true if we were talking about single family homes. However, this incident occured in a block of apartments.
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Soaks in and the grass turns brown.
I know - I have a few patches in our garden from our dog - but only where he uses the same spot over and over, and if the sun bakes down on it - and it always seems to rejuvenate again after a week or so.

No, I think the only issue here, is that the OP is using another grassed area in preference to the one by where he lives. The actual act of a dog peeing on the grass shouldn't be such a big deal - and as he pointed out at the top - who knows what cats and other animals do in the night.

I know they use my garden as a loo and compete with my dog for territory with their scent marking - spraying over my BBQ, my car, and children's outside toys - and it really stinks - much more than my dog.
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I hope it wasn't IN the block of apartments! As said, the lawned areas are for people who live there to walk, picnic, etc, and for the children to play- so dog pee is naturally not welcome.The smell of dog urine will also linger for ages and upset those living near those areas- as it will waft up to their windows or balconies. It also ruins the grass, and will even kill it if many dogs use it.
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That would be true if we were talking about single family homes. However, this incident occured in a block of apartments.
So what? The grass is still private property. One day quite recently I was walking my dogs and it was warm, the dogs were tired so we stopped and were sitting on the lawn of a block of apartments that was in the shade. It is private property but there is a bench there, it is very near the old age home. I was giving them water, that's it and I sat on the bench. They were having a little break, all 3 laying down. Then "Mrs. Hauswartin" (caretaker's wife) who had just arrived home, parks her car and walks over to me. I can see she is looking for an argument. She begins by telling me her husband works hard to maintain the grass speech, and he is so tired of finding dog poo. I tell her I understand, and I show her my dog walking bag with robi dog bags filled with fresh poo.

The dogs are still laying down doing nothing during this conversation. Mrs. Hauswart is still not done. Then there is the cat poo she says, to which I tell her, no, cat poo, is not the biggest problem, nor is dog poo, it's horse poo in our village.

Then I said how I was so sad to learn about the passing of one of her tenants, I guess she had no idea I knew her and the rest of the conversation was about that. When I finally got up to leave, she wished me a nice evening. Not sure she will start up with anyone else too quickly.

When I got up I noticed on the bench is a brass plate with the words "shalom", meaning peace.
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Re: Keep off the Grass!!!!

Why couldn't the guy have been kind and friendly when he asked you to not walk the dogs on the grass? I know I know, OT. It just bugs me.
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This morning I was out with my dogs for one last bladder empty before going to work. The building across from mine has a better lawn (less pricklies and bugs it seems) than the lawn in front of my building, and the dogs prefer it more too.

A neighbor came around and said in Swiss German, "Hey! your dogs can't be on the grass! You have to take them out!"

I couldn't tell if he was disapproving of the amount of time we were outside, or the fact that we were loitering on the grass, or what. So I said, "What?"
To which he responsed, "You should learn German". I told him, "I'm trying to learn German, but I didn't understand you."

Then he goes on to tell me that the grass is private. Huh? But I live here. He tells me, "But you live in that building (pointing to mine), not in this building (pointing to his)." Say wuh????

I told him that, I didn't see any signs marking the area private or saying that dogs weren't allowed on it. [Afterall, every roaming cat at night pees there too probably. ] The neighbor says to me there don't have to be signs, I'm just supposed to know.

Has anyone ever heard of such a thing?
I had a similar experience - hand on heart, I didnt realise that it is a privat patch but later confirmed that it isnt.

Meddlesome neighbours

Now, I usually avoid grass patches outside of anyone's building or house now as I see the point of non-dog owners: even though that a grass patch in front of their building doesnt belong to them, out of respect, its best to let the dogs relieve themselves near trees (or blatantly obvious public property), as constant visits to that same grass patch will destroy it - and we all know how that will impress the Swiss and endear dogs even more to the anti-dog squad.
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Let's turn this round. Why do think it's okay to take your dogs to pis$ on the lawn outside somebody's apartment block?

I'm a dog owner and I can tell you the reason your dogs prefer it is because that's where you've got into the habit of taking them. It's got nothing to do with the quality of the grass and don't blame your dogs' for preferring it. It's your fault for letting it become a habit. They can smell the pee and now make a bee line for "their" toilet. Plus they're now marking "their" territory.

Now this will also attract other dogs who will pee over your dogs' pee to mask it with their own. Staking a claim as it were. No wonder your neighbor is pi$$ed off.

You shouldn't let them empty their bladder on a lawn. Take them somewhere else.
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Why couldn't the guy have been kind and friendly when he asked you to not walk the dogs on the grass? I know I know, OT. It just bugs me.
It is not really off topic as it bugs me too. Most of the time when I am walking the dogs and someone feels they have something to say, it is almost always negative. I am really fed up and when I see no one when dog walking I am the happiest.

The other day it got quite warm, we were at the fountain, then a white terrier comes running across the road towards us, no leash, no owner in sight, but I realise I know him. He followed us home one day and I had to take him to the Tierheim where they located the owner. He is very friendly, but always running on the road, according to the neighbours. Finally the owner appears, looks at my dogs, and tells me they need water. We were at the fountain and I had 3 bowls out. Guess she missed that.

Then she tells me my dogs are overheated (total nonsense). By this time I have heard enough, I just want her to leash her dog and go home. So I tell her that I don't think she is in any position to tell me how to care for dogs when hers is always running on the road. She replied it has never happened before which I know not to be true. If only she knew I was the one who cost her money when she had to collect her dog at the Tierheim.

I really don't understand why people cannot mind their own business. My friend suggested wearing earphones, appear to be listening to music, but that is one thing I will never do while dog walking as you cannot stay alert and hear what is going on around you. Maybe just earphones connected to nothing will do the trick?
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Let's turn this round. Why do think it's okay to take your dogs to pis$ on the lawn outside somebody's apartment block?
I happen to live in this apartment block. This is why I am puzzled.

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You shouldn't let them empty their bladder on a lawn. Take them somewhere else.
So you would advocate litter box training?
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