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Re: Doggy Day Care [what does your dog do while you're at work?]

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Dont listen to any fool who says unless you can look after it 24/7 dont get one.

These people are idiots, and think that a dog is unable to be independent. Or ill-educated, and feel dogs need acres of land to run free. Again, not true.

Of course, because many Swiss people are stuck up their own backsides and have a completely different outlook to most normal rational people, they may get peeved if they know you leave your dog for several hours a day, despite it not affecting their lives one bit. If they can find something to complain about, they will, so you always have to factor this in.

I used to befriend neighbours, but learned that this English past time is ill advised in Switzerland, unless your lucky. Befriending neighbours gives them an opportunity to gain insight to your life, and routines and thus room for complaint about something that differs from their routine i.e. how you hang your washing, to wear you sit on your balcony, to how you use your canopies.

I use doggy day care occassionally, but its expensive. Twice a week is all i use it for. More so he can socialise and relieve me of travelling home everyday.

The other days I make a trip home for a 15min walk. So he is left 4 hours in the morn, 4 hours in the afternoon.

The trick is dealing with separation anxiety, nip this in the bud early, look on net how to deal with this.

And trust me, a friendly Swiss neighbour asks you a question about your dog, IGNORE THE NOSEY BASTARDS. They will complain once they feel they can because they know you.
They say that dogs often resemble their owners. Given the tenor of your post and the fact that you have a French Bulldog a picture is beginning to form in my mind, which I must say is quite amusing. Sounds like you and your dog must be the life and soul of the party.....not!
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Old 01.09.2011, 08:44
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There is no law requiring a crate for the car. The dog must not interfere with the driver, that is the only requirement.
I mentioned this at SKN when the subject came up, but my instructor also said that the law requires the dog must be kept safe.

Meh. Interpretation.
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Old 01.09.2011, 08:52
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Re: Doggy Day Care [what does your dog do while you're at work?]

My lab comes to work with me every day. I wouldnt leave him at home because I think it is cruel. All dogs need down time but not all day. He gets walked by me and some colleagues and he is fine. But when we have to travel were finding it difficult to arrange for him to be looked after and I refuse to put him in a kennel so m a bit stuck. Any ideas?
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Re: Doggy Day Care [what does your dog do while you're at work?]

Re: Leaving a dog on his own:

It's important that any dog owner understand what 'Swiss norms' are. Attitudes to dogs, and to animal welfare in general, are indeed different here than what I have encountered in other cultures. The differences are at times a very welcome change, at times difficult to live with, at times simply puzzling. To get a better understanding of what is expected of a dog owner, I'd suggest reading the BVet website/brochure 'Hunde Richtig Halten'.

http://www.bvet.admin.ch/tsp/02222/index.html?lang=de

I don't think anyone here in Switzerland would have an issue with a crate used for training purposes, or as a den/comfort zone where the dog has the ability to come and go as he wishes. Many dog owners - myself included - find crates an important tool, especially when house training, for travel safety, etc. My dogs certainly love having their own little dens, in fact one would have been lost without his 'security zone'. Used correctly, crates are a blessing.

The issue here - and pretty much everywhere - is with leaving the dog confined for long stretches of time.

While the TschV does not address crate use per se, it does address kennel requirements. Thus one might infer the need for sufficient space and free movement might apply to crating a dog. Some interesting reading:

http://www.bvet.admin.ch/tsp/02222/0...x.html?lang=de
http://www.bvet.admin.ch/tsp/02222/0...x.html?lang=de

And the bit about not leaving a dog alone all day:

"Hunde möchten möglichst immer bei ihren Menschen sein. Alleinstehende, voll berufstätige Menschen sollten sich die Anschaffung eines Hundes gut überlegen. Auf keinen Fall darf ein Hund den ganzen Tag allein zuhause gelassen werden."

Note however that this bit about leaving the dog alone is not taken from the law itself, but rather the BVet guidance.

(However, various laws - Nachbarrecht well as animal welfare - could kick in if leaving a dog alone caused problems.)

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It should be noted that much of the objection to dogs being left alone comes not from folks concerned with animal welfare, but rather from those who do not like the noises/mess a dog might make. As an owner can't prevent noise if he/she is not right on hand to deal with it, many landlords/buildings forbid dogs being left alone as a preventative measure. And if not explicitly forbidden, one may find one's neighbors are ready to use 'moral suasion' to get one to tow the line.

At issue here is that we live in such small, often shared, spaces here in Switzerland, and there is a cultural expectation for quiet beyond what many of us from other parts of the world are used to. We dog owners need to fine-tune our antennae, to be more sensitive to others than we might have had to be in our home countries.

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Can a dog live a happy 'artgerecht' life in Switzerland? Yes, of course he can - but given the constrictions we face it does take a heck of a lot of work on the owner's part.
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My lab comes to work with me every day. I wouldnt leave him at home because I think it is cruel. All dogs need down time but not all day. He gets walked by me and some colleagues and he is fine. But when we have to travel were finding it difficult to arrange for him to be looked after and I refuse to put him in a kennel so m a bit stuck. Any ideas?
When our very old girl meets her maker- she won't be replaced as we travel a lot and want to spend more time with the grand-children in the UK. If and when- your lovely lab could come and spend time with us in the Jura. Sadly our dog is extremely jealous of other dogs- so cannot offer at the moment.
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My lab comes to work with me every day. I wouldnt leave him at home because I think it is cruel. All dogs need down time but not all day. He gets walked by me and some colleagues and he is fine. But when we have to travel were finding it difficult to arrange for him to be looked after and I refuse to put him in a kennel so m a bit stuck. Any ideas?
I should add that having already received two very kind offers, that this wasnt a request for help, more about general dog sitting in switzerland. That said, I do thank the two kind offerers (can i say that) and i hope one day to get the chance for our dogs to meet up.thank you again.
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My lab comes to work with me every day. I wouldnt leave him at home because I think it is cruel. All dogs need down time but not all day. He gets walked by me and some colleagues and he is fine. But when we have to travel were finding it difficult to arrange for him to be looked after and I refuse to put him in a kennel so m a bit stuck. Any ideas?
grumpygit, if you're still stuck, check out the pet sitting network for those people near you with similar/suitable pet/family profiles.

On other posts - its not just in Switzerland, that is taboo to leave a dog home alone for so long. Any country in the world - its common sense. Think about it: even for the lower energy or short nose breeds who doesnt need as much exercise, just because they sleep doesnt mean that they are happy. Its not about the physical stimulation but the mental aspect too. Dogs sleep for approx 18-20 hours a day and the seniors, about 22 hours. Its part of their genetic requirement but they need the mental stimulation to keep them entertained as well.

Its cruel to go out to work and come back after 8-9 hours, not to grant your dog an hour outside in fresh air and sniffing new smells which to them, is similar to us reading the daily newspaper: who has been peeing at my spot?! ah, that little shit tzu has been here etc etc.

Finally, doesnt mean your dog is socialised at puppyhood means that your work is done now that he is a fully grown adult. My 2 rappens.
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I should add that having already received two very kind offers, that this wasnt a request for help, more about general dog sitting in switzerland. That said, I do thank the two kind offerers (can i say that) and i hope one day to get the chance for our dogs to meet up.thank you again.

Park Bertrand in Champel is were we take ours for a run on Sundays mainly. Otherwise if you leave close to Servette let me know if you ever want a doggy play date
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You may well find the perfect dog waiting for you here...
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How can anyone resist all those sweet doggy faces?
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My lab comes to work with me every day. I wouldnt leave him at home because I think it is cruel. All dogs need down time but not all day. He gets walked by me and some colleagues and he is fine. But when we have to travel were finding it difficult to arrange for him to be looked after and I refuse to put him in a kennel so m a bit stuck. Any ideas?
When I flew here I met a couple at check in who take their dog everywhere they go. To me that's a whole other challenge.

Why are you opposed to leaving them at a kennel?

I personally don't like the kennels here. I find them sup-par, not to mention too few and far in between.
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My lab comes to work with me every day. I wouldnt leave him at home because I think it is cruel. All dogs need down time but not all day. He gets walked by me and some colleagues and he is fine. But when we have to travel were finding it difficult to arrange for him to be looked after and I refuse to put him in a kennel so m a bit stuck. Any ideas?
We have an 11 year old lab mix who stays at home during the day with our 2 cats, but we have a dog walker come and take her for a couple of hours. We have a huge yard and I desperately want her to have someone to play with. PM me next time you're looking for someone to take your hound, maybe we can work something out.
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OK this is not an advertisment but here it goes. We take our mutt to these guys

http://www.of-liberty.com/pres_chien_anglais.htm

To be honest i didnt get a tour but then again i didnt ask for one. Im sure it would be ok if i wanted. Any every time we get Whiskey there he goes nuts and cant wait to get in. For me thats proof enough. And we pay 26chfs per day
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They say that dogs often resemble their owners. Given the tenor of your post and the fact that you have a French Bulldog a picture is beginning to form in my mind, which I must say is quite amusing. Sounds like you and your dog must be the life and soul of the party.....not!

Comedy wasnt a strong point of yours then.

Funny enough my dog lights up any environment, and i am quite the socialist myself.

Just sick of nosey swiss people with nothing better to do than moan cause they have no life of interests of their own.

Where do people get off on telling others what they can and cant do with their lives providing they are not disturbing others, hence why your username is rather adequate.
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Comedy wasnt a strong point of yours then.

Funny enough my dog lights up any environment, and i am quite the socialist myself.

Just sick of nosey swiss people with nothing better to do than moan cause they have no life of interests of their own.

Where do people get off on telling others what they can and cant do with their lives providing they are not disturbing others, hence why your username is rather adequate.
Considering that I wasn't telling anyone anything, I am not sure what you mean, but whatever.

I am sorry if I hurt your feelings. I am not exactly an oil painting myself and if I had a pet that looked like me it would look something like this.

As to your views on co-operative social relations and self-management; relatively equal power-relations and the reduction or elimination of hierarchy in the management of economic and political affairs, well I am not sure that I am that interested. Or did you mean socialite????
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