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Please do not do this, this will make the cat afraid of people, this is not a nice present for its owner.
No worries, I don't think I can ever kick an animal or any other living things...
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Please do not do this, this will make the cat afraid of people, this is not a nice present for its owner.
So cats aren't smart, they're stupid and can't tell one person from another? I didn't know that.

OK - don't kick it, just chase it out each time. If they're not able to recognise different people they will at least be able to recognise different places. Make it know that your place isn't for it.
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Re: problem with neighbor cat

I would buy a cat repellent they sell in pet stores, or you if you want goan extra step they had something even stronger last time I looked that makesall the animals want to stay away but the price was about 50CHF.

The more expensive product is suppose to send signal that animals don't like.

The cat repellent worked just fine for me, the “wild” cats kept away from myoutside furniture after I was tired picking up their s… from my terrace.

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Re: problem with neighbor cat

Why not complain to the landlord? It's what every Swiss person would do in the situation.
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Try and procure some lions pee from the zoo.
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So cats aren't smart, they're stupid and can't tell one person from another? I didn't know that.

OK - don't kick it, just chase it out each time. If they're not able to recognise different people they will at least be able to recognise different places. Make it know that your place isn't for it.
Well, I think they might be able to, but as far as I have seen with different cats who have been kicked or sprayed with water, they are all afraid of people and they don't care which people. If you might get a cat and prepare for it with reading a cat book or something, there is always stated that you should never kick or spray your cat.

I have tried this cat repellant which smelled like garlic as hell, to scare off cats who do their daily droppings in my garden, and it didn't work.
Even got my own cats outside to face the "intruder" but all they did was sit down and watch
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Old 05.10.2011, 17:10
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Re: problem with neighbor cat

You should be able to find mosquito netting (screens) in the hardware / hobby-craft stores or departments within stores. This will somewhat deter a curious kitty, but they're not necessarily effective with very determined cats.

My mother-in-law got some dowel rods to which she stapled chicken wire and stuck inside the window frame in such a way that it was held in place. The window for which she did this though is on a bare wall, no way for a cat to get TO it and try to get in, she was looking to keep her cats from going out.

Also though, they have some special window guards for the windows that tip, you can find them at Qualipet and other pet supply stores as well as probably in the pet / animal department in some of the hardware stores like Obi and Hornbach.


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Thinking about it, depending on the location of the window(s) in question where the cat is entering, perhaps a water feature outside the window and some unpleasant-to-cats texture along the window ledge will help. Some folks believe that cats don't like to step on prickly or strange-feeling things, so maybe laying down a strip of chicken wire or a shallow rock garden along the window ledge will help keep the kitty from thinking that's a good place to be.

Another thing you can try is to make it favorable for the cat to be elsewhere. As it seems you know which house is the cat's own house, maybe put some cat grass near where it crosses into your areas. This maybe distract the cat from feeling the need to come further into your area.

I've read some suggestions also of other plants that cats may not like, some say cats don't care too much for lavender but it really didn't keep my cat from munching away on the chives I had planted right next to it. Different cats like or dislike different things though so maybe planting a lavender border around your terrace will help keep the kitty out.
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Why not complain to the landlord? It's what every Swiss person would do in the situation.
Just for your information.

"Every Swiss Person" including me? Let's just try "most".
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Just for your information.

"Every Swiss Person" including me? Let's just try "most".
I guess then it's a matter for the police!
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I guess then it's a matter for the police!
Yeah, that sounds more like it.
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Maybe a kick? Not to hurt it but enough so that it knows you're not playing. A gentle kick but with an aloof "f/ck you, cat" face as you walk away.
LOL. People are staring at me at the office as I just can not stop laughing. You have guts to write that on this forum with all the 'bunny huggers' here. I just can't believe you suggested it. Brilliant!

Back to the question at hand. The cat away repellent I bought from Fresnapt was rubbish. The cats just came back, and then our dogs started peeing there. So seems more like an attraction. I have also tried everything (except kicking). I can't stand that they use my garden as a toilet. GO HOME and use your owners garden. One day one of my dogs is going to nail them. They have been warned, shouted at, even power hosed. Sadly they will learn the hard way.
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Re: problem with neighbor cat

Under CH animal welfare laws, a cat is allowed to roam free. However, the cat owner still remains liable for damage the cat has done.

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Nope, I was wrong about liability. See my post # 51.

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So your first step is as M.Ploymi suggests: Talk to the owner, let her know of your concerns. put her on notice about her cat's activities and the repercussions.

ETA: Talk to her, because that that is the reasonable, neighborly approach. She may well have suggestions to resolve the situation.

And if you are still concerned about damage, ask your insurer where you stand re: coverage.

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But we all know that cats do what cats want to do, that is part of their charm - and there is little you can do to change a feline's mind. So the path of least resistance might be to make sure that the cat can't get in.

The window barrier thingies that PegA mentioned ( 'Kipfesterschutz') are avaialble at any pet store. For example:

http://www.meiko.ch/index.cfm?shopar...C8D533DFC86802

These are quite inexpensive. Ask your landlord if it's OK to install these in the windows you like to keep open. In the long run, it is cheaper than replacing your valuables - or getting treated for an ulcer.

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Re: problem with neighbor cat

[QUOTE=meloncollie;1365809]Under CH animal welfare laws, a cat is allowed to roam free. However, the cat owner still remains liable for damage the cat has done.

Thank you for that, I was curious about the extend of the animal welfare laws.So then the cat is allowed to roam free uninvited even if it's inside neighbor's apartment? I will talk to the cat owner and will let her know I will hold her responsible if her cat jumps on one of our instruments and damages it and that it will be extremely costly for her. I just have to let her know what her cat is doing.
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LOL. People are staring at me at the office as I just can not stop laughing. You have guts to write that on this forum with all the 'bunny huggers' here. I just can't believe you suggested it. Brilliant!
Some of us know Adrianlondon in person and know that that sort of stuff from him is to be taken with a grain of salt. Very unlikely to be serious. Right Adrian? RIGHT?

(Of course, anyone who pays much attention to his posts here would have figured out the same thing anyhow... sorry to give away the secret)

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Back to the question at hand. The cat away repellent I bought from Fresnapt was rubbish. The cats just came back, and then our dogs started peeing there. So seems more like an attraction. I have also tried everything (except kicking). I can't stand that they use my garden as a toilet. GO HOME and use your owners garden. One day one of my dogs is going to nail them. They have been warned, shouted at, even power hosed. Sadly they will learn the hard way.
If you know where the cats are going, that's half the battle already.

It may not go well with your landscaping for now, and it does involve some costs on your part, but if you put some chunky stabby mulch there or cover the area with sharp'ish rocks, this would help. Cats don't generally like to poo and leave it uncovered so they're not likely to keep using a spot where they're unable to cover it.

A second, complimentary thing to then do would be to put a sand pit somewhere along the edge of your property as this will help direct the cats THERE instead of closer to the house. If this isn't favorable enough for you, maybe discuss with your neighbors helping them build some sand pits in their own yards, perhaps with some cat grass "nearby" as well, to help give their own cats reasons to stay closer to home.
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Under CH animal welfare laws, a cat is allowed to roam free. However, the cat owner still remains liable for damage the cat has done.
Thank you for that, I was curious about the extend of the animal welfare laws.So then the cat is allowed to roam free uninvited even if it's inside neighbor's apartment? I will talk to the cat owner and will let her know I will hold her responsible if her cat jumps on one of our instruments and damages it and that it will be extremely costly for her. I just have to let her know what her cat is doing.
No, that's not what meloncollie said / meant.

The laws say that cats should have access to outdoors and roam OUTSIDE freely at will. You of course have the right to exclude the cat from your home.

In my case, we live up in an attic apartment, it wasn't safe for our cat to roam freely BUT as we got her as an adult and she was an indoor cat already, it was easy enough to (mostly) satisfy her by setting up a net around our terrace to keep her from going walk-about across the roof. Depending on the person you talk to, this still isn't quite good enough, but it's a decent compromise.
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Re: problem with neighbor cat

I don't see why you should have to go to all that trouble and invest money eventhough it's not your cat. I have a cat too and it will "play" with my neighbours rabbits once in a while and i have told her if she feels my cat is gettin too wild (she still is very young) then she should spray water (not a bucket or a pistol, just ne of those handsprays). Do not kick a cat, that is jus cruel. Water is water and the cat will learn. What you can do as well: when my cat gets up to mischief I clap loudly with my hands and shhhh her, so if you see your neighbours cat try it. The cat will learn as time goes by, that she has no business in your house/appartment. Ultimate alternative, there are special plants that cats hate, if they are pretty (have no idea what they look like) you can have one or two on your balcony/terrace.


Best solution is communication anyway. So go talk to her.
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Take some pictures while the intruder is in your house as an evidence, in case your neighbour denies.
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Re: problem with neighbor cat

I was going to buy the cat repellent but reading the feedback on it, I am not sure if it will work. Luckily cat doesn't do her business in my terrace or around it but I think she is rather curious, I dare say she even likes us unfortunately.... Although none of us ever do anything to attract/invite the cat... Our 8 year old daughter said many times the cat watches her practicing her violin from the terrace....
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No, that's not what meloncollie said / meant.

The laws say that cats should have access to outdoors and roam OUTSIDE freely at will. You of course have the right to exclude the cat from your home.
So than who is responsible for neighbor's cat roaming freely inside my home? That is what I want to know so that I can talk to my neighbor in case she says it isn't her responsibility what her cat does outside.

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