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Old 03.05.2012, 17:29
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removing plaque and tartar (without vet)

hello,

I just purchased Platinum oral care for my dog. Has anyone here any experiences with this product? I think the products are the same as these from Petzlife, it is just an EU brand.

what I would like to know is, whether I can expect any side effects? I know the ingredients are all natural, but when it comes to my dog, I am quite paranoid

I am not sure if this gel will help or not, but I will tell you about the results in about three weeks.
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Re: removing plaque and tartar (without vet)

Not heard of this, but I'd be interested to learn how it worked with your dog.

I just purchased Bogadent Plaque Stop, a non-natural product , as it was on promotion at the petstore - only to read the fine print and see that it cannot be used on dogs with thyroid disease. So that's been binned.

The Belltie, like many shelties, is overly-prone to plaque. Despite daily care I'm not happy with his teeth, and I fear that a vet cleaning/anesthesia is in his future. Anything I can do to prolong the time between cleanings would be a godsend - so if you find that the Platimum Oral Care works, do please let me know.
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Re: removing plaque and tartar (without vet)

yes, I will post an update.

we will start tomorrow and will see how it works.

as suggested, I bought Oral clean care gel classic and an Oral clean gel forte. at first we need to apply classic gel and then switch to forte, because forte has more intensive smell and taste.

we bought it here in case you are interested in purchasing it.
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Re: removing plaque and tartar (without vet)

a short update;

after reading some reviews for Petzlife oral care products (I discovered too late, that Petzlife & Platinum are the same products, otherwise I would have read the reviews before purchasing the products), I have decided not to use Platinum products because of the amount of alcohol they have. I don't want to do any harm to my girls liver and as I have read, some dogs had problems with liver and with bilirubin. I don't want to risk as she already had some problems there, caused by a longterm cortisone therapy.

so, lets see how the money back guarantee will works.
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Re: removing plaque and tartar (without vet)

Hi !

This is the dental gel I use. All natural. I brought some with me; so not sure if it's available here, but doesn't hurt to look/ask.

Honestly, I've fallen behind on the dental cleaning a bit, but I'm starting it back up this week. It really did seem to help when I was doing it every week, but it's not a miracle or anything. They still had plaque. The more I used it, though, the more it seemed to pull off the plaque. I will say that it helped 100% with bad breath, though, and the dogs like the flavor too

Here's a list of the ingredients:

http://www.vetsbest.com/pdf/VBDentalGel3165810096.pdf
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Re: removing plaque and tartar (without vet)

Something else you can try that I have tried in the past, but it didn't work to well, is to buy Vitamin C tablets and mash one or two into a powder. Add a little bit of water to this powder unitl it looks like a paste (tooth paste). Then scoop some on a dog toothbrush and brush your dogs teeth with that. The gritt from the Vitamin C helps rub off plaque, and the dogs like the taste.

The only other thing I've read is feeding dogs raw butcher bones ( or a completely raw diet). The act of chewing on the bone helps stimulate the teeth and gums and chips away at the plaque, and any meat on the bone works like dental floss. I've seen pictures of dogs that have done this, and their teeth are amazingly clean and white. I've seen a lot of people online swear by this, but I am just too chicken to try giving raw bones/meat to my dogs. I'm afraid they would get sick ( bacteria ) or choke on a bone fragment. I'm just going to stick to giving them toy dental bones instead .

Other than that, I'm out of ideas I really think the only way to clean a dog's teeth is to always brush.
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That's what I use on my dog. Only side effect is that the dog learns to patiently leave his mouth open
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Re: removing plaque and tartar (without vet)

I never had dogs, am more of a cat person, so I have a question:

Why does one have to clean dogs teeth if they eat normal dog food, have those hard chewing things and get a dental service by the vet?
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I never had dogs, am more of a cat person, so I have a question:

Why does one have to clean dogs teeth if they eat normal dog food, have those hard chewing things and get a dental service by the vet?
Many dogs are prone to plaque and tooth/gum disease - daily cleaning helps keep the bacteria at bay, just as daily cleaning helps us.

Not every dog needs daily cleaning, but like people some breeds/individuals are more prone to dental disease than others. Shelties, the breed I have, are among those - so my guys get their teeth brushed daily.

(My Haifisch's previous owner obviously never cleaned his teeth; when he landed in rescue his teeth were so rotten that all but 4 had to be removed.)

Does the modern dog's diet add to the problem? Lots of debate on that one.

I, too, am intrigued by reports of the benefits of BARF, but am too chicken to try. Having seen one of my dogs almost choke to death on a bone he snarfed off the street, I'm very uncomfortable with giving them whole bones. I know that one can do a ground version - but then that negates the benefits of chewing. Besides, at many times I've had at least one resource guarder here, so I've always worried about the potential for conflict...
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I never had dogs, am more of a cat person, so I have a question:

Why does one have to clean dogs teeth if they eat normal dog food, have those hard chewing things and get a dental service by the vet?
Normal dog food ( I'm guessing you mean the crunchy kind, not the soft kind or canned food) is not hard enough to break up plaque on dog's teeth. However, I've been told that a dog that eats crunchy dog kibble will have less plaque build up than a dog that eats soft foods.

Chews and dog dental toys help keep gums healthy, fight bad breath, and can also reduce plaque build up, but they also aren't good enough to keep all the plaque off a dogs teeth especially the back teeth.

If a dog has a lot of plaque build up, then a vet needs to do a dental cleaning. This is because a severe build up of plaque/tartar leads to extremely bad breath, gum disease, tooth loss (and other dental issues), and even other health problems (like digestive problems because of all the bacteria in the dogs mouth from the plaque).

You're probably wondering ' then why not have your vet just frequently do a dental cleaning' . Well, it can get pretty expensive and the vet always wants to have the dog under anesthesia for the cleaning, which can be risky for some dogs. The vet usually will tell you when your dog needs a dental cleaning. They have something like a 'tartar scale', and if the plaque build up is on the low end of the scale then they will suggest things like brushing your dogs teeth, or giving them chews instead of under going a full dental cleaning.

Imagine if people only ate crunchy foods, and tic tacs. Getting a dental cleaning once every few years wouldn't cut it, lol

Hope this answers your question

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I, too, am intrigued by reports of the benefits of BARF, but am too chicken to try. Having seen one of my dogs almost choke to death on a bone he snarfed off the street, I'm very uncomfortable with giving them whole bones. I know that one can do a ground version - but then that negates the benefits of chewing. Besides, at many times I've had at least one resource guarder here, so I've always worried about the potential for conflict...

I used to feed a BARF diet to my previous do as that was what she tolerated best. Chewing on whole bones and bigger pieces of meat kept her teeth healthy. She had great teeth and I never had to scrape any tartar away. The problem with the diet is, that it's hard to find a vet who that thinks it's a good idea.
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Re: removing plaque and tartar (without vet)

It takes some aggressive chewing to keep plaque off the outside of the upper teeth. Unless you have a dog that likes to chew stuff it can build up there. My vet showed me how to remove plaque/tartar with a guitar pick once a month. Works great!
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