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Fee to adopt dogs?

Hi all!

I have discovered that at our local Tierheim (zurich) they charge 440 CHF to adopt a dog.

I was surprised (not to say shocked) at this amount!

I understand that one should pay something, also to show "seriousness" of one's actions, but 440 CHF seems a bit steep.

Just wanted to ask your opinion and knowledge about this

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Re: Fee to adopt dogs?

Have you ever been to a VET in CH? Then you should know how steep the fees are. I imagine the dogs have been neutered/spayed, and have all their vaccinations?

Agreed to that it is a great deterrent against taking dogs for Christmas and not for life. Refuges in France practically give the dogs away, without proper owner/family/conditions checks and many without getting animals sterilised- and a huge proportion find themselves abandoned AGAIN, or their puppies, or used as puppy farms.

It is not easy to adopt an animal in Switzerland FOR AN AWFUL OF EXCELLENT REASONS
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Old 25.07.2012, 10:29
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Have you ever been to a VET in CH? Then you should know how steep the fees are. I imagine the dogs have been neutered/spayed, and have all their vaccinations?

Agreed to that it is a great deterrent against taking dogs for Christmas and not for life. Refuges in France practically give the dogs away, without proper owner/family/conditions checks and many without getting animals sterilised- and a huge proportion find themselves abandoned AGAIN, or their puppies, or used as puppy farms.

It is not easy to adopt an animal in Switzerland FOR AN AWFUL OF EXCELLENT REASONS

I am a dog owner so I fully understand the responsibilities that come with it, as well as I totally agree that owners should be checked etc

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I think such a high fee could make people think that it is better to buy a puppy versus adopting a dog from the pound.

Of course the pound has fees BUT it is still better to manage a successful adoption than to try and recover them, no?

I was just surprised at the amount....
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Re: Fee to adopt dogs?

I have a friend who is a vet, and she assures me that the Tierheim charges are to cover their costs of vaccinating, de-worming, neutering/spaying and making sure that the animal is healthy before adoption. The fee also goes towards feeding and housing the animals and towards any medical care they may need.

Considering the vet fees in Switzerland, CHF440 is very reasonable and whilst you may think you may save by getting a puppy, the puppy will also have to be vaccinated, neutered/spayed and get vet checks. Add in the puppys' purchase price, then CHF440 will be a bargain in comparison.
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I think such a high fee could make people think that it is better to buy a puppy versus adopting a dog from the pound.
Sounds like you haven't looked into getting a puppy from a breeder in Switzerland then!
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Hi all!

I have discovered that at our local Tierheim (zurich) they charge 440 CHF to adopt a dog.

I was surprised (not to say shocked) at this amount!

I understand that one should pay something, also to show "seriousness" of one's actions, but 440 CHF seems a bit steep.

Just wanted to ask your opinion and knowledge about this

K
really glad you are going to adopt a dog. It is expensive for many reasons, but trust you are doing the right thing for sure
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Re: Fee to adopt dogs?

Not adopting a dog, have one I simply saw this when picking our dog up from holidays there

Thanks for replies, I understand the explanations but I still feel it is too high given the adopting family is also doing the Tierheim some good by preventing any further costs.

But I see you are all ok with it so I guess it is fine and people will continue to adopt

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Thanks for replies, I understand the explanations but I still feel it is too high given the adopting family is also doing the Tierheim some good by preventing any further costs.
Putting down a dog isn't that expensive …
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Not adopting a dog, have one I simply saw this when picking our dog up from holidays there

Thanks for replies, I understand the explanations but I still feel it is too high given the adopting family is also doing the Tierheim some good by preventing any further costs.

But I see you are all ok with it so I guess it is fine and people will continue to adopt

K
Actually, I have discovered that the fees are negotiable. I know from personal experience that if the dog is much older, and if, as the future owner you could face medical costs, they can reduce the fee. The main thing is to find the dog a good home.

We tend to look outside Switzerland but mainly as our interest is in Basset Hounds. There is a rescue in Germany for just Bassets.
http://www.wild-viking-hounds.de/in%20Not.htm
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Re: Fee to adopt dogs?

I'd day its a normal price. I paid CHF 400 for my tierheim dog ten years ago (and visited there three times and agreed to a house-call by them until I was allowed to have the dog). It was a lot of money to me at the time but it's part of the tierheim's way of checking you are really serious about dog ownership i.e. reducing the number of dogs they have on their doorstep again a month later. There are still a number of people who think they can get a dog for as long as they feel inclined and then get rid of it when they've had enough And in the light of what dogs cost to keep it's peanuts really. Tierheims are massively underfunded, so as long as it's a well run heim they are worthy of your support.
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Re: Fee to adopt dogs?

we paid 180 a year or 2 ago. dog was neutered and had had his shots ...maybe thats why it is cheaper.

I just got the tax bill for him though...140 chf per year
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Re: Fee to adopt dogs?

I've paid adoption fees ranging between CHF 400 and €800 -the fee you are looking at is actually a very reasonable adoption fee.

As others have pointed out - the cost of caring for a dog in a shelter is quite high - in Switzerland, and pretty much anywhere else.

The fees charged don't even come close to reflecting the actual costs to the shelter. Most rescue groups have to do constant fundraising to cover their costs, and that's even with relying on volunteer help. The rescue I volunteer with faces veterinary bills in the thousands for some of our charges

Rescue is not a way to get a dog on the cheap.

One should go into rescue for one reason only: the desire to do good, to give a soul in need a second chance. But you will be rewarded a thousandfold, not only by the satisfaction of having made a difference, but also by the love and companionship your new friend brings into your life.
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I've paid adoption fees ranging between CHF 400 and €800 -the fee you are looking at is actually a very reasonable adoption fee.

As others have pointed out - the cost of caring for a dog in a shelter is quite high - in Switzerland, and pretty much anywhere else.

The fees charged don't even come close to reflecting the actual costs to the shelter. Most rescue groups have to do constant fundraising to cover their costs, and that's even with relying on volunteer help. The rescue I volunteer with faces veterinary bills in the thousands for some of our charges

Rescue is not a way to get a dog on the cheap.
But it is one of the most rewarding.
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Re: Fee to adopt dogs?

This is not directed at you, Kri, but rather a general comment to try to explain how many rescues view such statements.

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I think such a high fee could make people think that it is better to buy a puppy versus adopting a dog from the pound.

Of course the pound has fees BUT it is still better to manage a successful adoption than to try and recover them, no?

I hear this all the time.

To be blunt, the rescue I volunteer with feels that attitude is a disqualifier. Often people will 'threaten' to run off and buy a puppy when unhappy with our fees or rehoming guidelines. In our eyes, this shows insufficient commitment to the ethos of rescue - and we worry that translates to an insufficient commitment to the dog.

Finding the dogs 'any' home is not the goal - rather, it is finding the right home, the forever home, with people who will love and cherish him - and ensure that he is never let down again.

As above, the adoption fee doesn't recover costs - it is not designed to. Rather, it is a form of protection for the dog - and a contribution to help rescue continue it's good work.

Again, the primary motive for adoption should be first because you have fallen in love with an individual soul in need, and second, because you wish to do a bit of good in the world.
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But it is one of the most rewarding.
To be honest your post brought tears to my eyes. My tierheim dog was my beloved companion for many years. She is gone now but I will be forever grateful for the time shared with that sensitive, loyal and beloved being. She had been mistreated badly and made the transition from a trembling bundle of fur hiding behind the sofa in panic just because I'd sneezed, to an inquisitive, playful and life embracing dog who touched the hearts of those who knew her. This process, which was a joy to behold, was her achievement but it did require patience, dedication and the readiness to learn from the family she lived with. In some ways tierheim dogs are a cat in the bag and many require an experienced handler. Those initial couple of Franken will never be missed. My dear friend will.
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Re: Fee to adopt dogs?

My wife's oldest and best friend adopted a Tierheim dog (a 95% Border Collie mix) who is the most lovable and friendly dog I have ever encountered (and I have owned a number of dogs in the past).

Old age has slowed him down (he is 9 y.o.) and we "dog sit" him a lot and miss him terribly when he returns to his Mistress.

The only drawback to him being a Tierheim dog is that we presume that at somepoint before his Tierheim stay he was the victim of some nasty "prank", (like tieing a firecracker to his tail) because gunshots (hunters in the distant woods, target practice) or fireworks turn him into a terrified wreck (and were I to find out what happened and who was responsible, I'd probably become guilty of "uncessary cruelty to humans").

That, I would argue, is the only drawback to a Tierheim dog - that it may have some irradicable deep seated trauma. Which basically just means needing to be that bit more patient with and understanding of the foibles of the dog. Something, I would assume, that a person getting a dog from a Tierheim is willing to be.
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Re: Fee to adopt dogs?

While I sort of 'specialize' in fruitbat nutcases 'cause these are the dogs that tug especially hard at my heartstrings, it should also be mentioned that many dogs in rescue don't have problems - they were given up for no fault of their own, because their owners couldn't or wouldn't make the committment needed to take on a pet.*

One needs assess the dog as best one can to ensure that what one can provide matches well with what the individual dog needs - and be prepared to roll with the punches. Pretty much as one needs to do with any dog.


* My personal favorite 'excuse' for dumping a dog in rescue:

Lady hands in a ca. 4 month old sheltie puppy.

Me: It will help us find him a new home if you could tell me all you can about your pup. May I ask why you have decided to rehome him?

Lady: I thought he was a guinea pig. I didn't realize I was buying a dog.

Me:


(Okay - in the German speaking world 'sheltie' is also a kind of guinea pig... but c'mon. )
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Re: Fee to adopt dogs?

thanks to all, you have managed to convince me it is the right thing....

hubby would be impressed, I do nto change mind easily

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Re: Fee to adopt dogs?

I guess the bottom line is the fee needs to be high enough to deter people who haven't properly thought through the decision to get a (rescue) dog but not so high to preclude finding a potential forever home. This being Switzerland with Swiss salaries and tax rates, the mid 3 figures feels about right to me. I would put good money (if I had any) on a guess that only expats will find these sort of figures expensive.
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The SPA Fribourg charge 500 for dogs, 150 for unneutered kittens and 190 if neutered and 50 for rabbits. It's not the sum itself, it's making sure people are really committed to looking after their pets once they take them on. And having had two rescued cats, albeit at no cost, the love and joy of watching them transform from scared young cats into confident, playful companions is worth any amount of money in my book. As soon as we get the new house cat friendly, we'll be getting another one or two and I can hardly wait.
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