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Hi everyone,

I am looking to buy a little cat (kitty). Maybe you know someone who has kittens, maybe you have experience buying from shops, online platforms with ads? Any advise would be appreciated.

I live in Lugano but we can travel with my wife to any part of Switzerland.

Thanks a lot in advance!!!
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Re: Looking for a cat

Look on the www.animal-sans-foyer.ch site which lists all the animals that are available at the various cantonal refuges in Switzerland. Plenty of cats and kittens looking for their "forever" home there.
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please dont buy one from a paper etc, check the animal shelters where you make a small donation... there are hunderds of cats waiting for homes
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Re: Looking for a cat

My cat is from a shelter, we got him when he was a little baby. He was rescued from the street.

I am so happy we gave him a home and he seems to like us a lot too. He is absolutely amazing with the kids and it is great for them to grow up with an animal as a friend.

Give a chance to a rescue cat!
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Re: Looking for a cat

I also recommend the shelter animal route as well. Adoption is the ONLY chance these animals have. I don't know about Switzerland, but in the US, many animals are euthanized due to lack of funds or space at shelters.

Not that pedigreed animals aren't loving or lovable (I have owned papered dogs throughout my life, and they were all wonderful), but if you only looking for a companion/pet, it's a very pricey option.

If you do opt for an animal from a store, please do your research. Ask for references from satisfied owners, AS WELL AS veterinarians.
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Thanks a lot. I came to the shelter today but ...... I was declined. I did take a cat from a shelter 5 years ago. It was a hassle because I needed to sign 3 pages contract with obligations not to allow a cat on the balcony, not to give it to friends for vacation time (=leave it in pet hotel only) etc. That is fine, I could live with that. But then I had to leave CH for one year contract and could not take a cat with me, and was single at this time. So I gave this cat to my vet who wanted this cat always. I had to do it involving the Shelter as per Contract. And now the interesting part. I was told today that because I took the commitment and did actually bring the cat back (even if I found a new owner, even if it is a veterinary doctor itself) I have lost the right to take any other cat from the shelter. I tried to explain that they have cats waiting in the cage for a new home for long time...... Well, I can't fight their decision anymore.... Also taking a cat from a shelter from another canton requires lots of paperwork and several trips and taking some nonsense obligations, I don't have time for this really.

I just want to get a kitten.
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Re: Looking for a cat

If you think they're nonsense obligations then it doesn't sound like you're very committed to looking after an animal. I understand your frustration with the rules and regulations, but they are there for a reason. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with the shelter, perhaps a word with your local vet who may know of other shelters in the area would be a good idea.
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If you think they're nonsense obligations then it doesn't sound like you're very committed to looking after an animal. I understand your frustration with the rules and regulations, but they are there for a reason. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with the shelter, perhaps a word with your local vet who may know of other shelters in the area would be a good idea.
I disagree. They have nonsense obligations. Not having a friend cat sitting the cat? Come on! Our friends just cat sit Xavi for a week and they all had a great time.

They put more rules in adopting an animal than they put in having kids. I understand they have to be careful but seriously, no balcony? No right to go outside? They should spend more time and energy to find a loving family who will take care of the cat than trying to find someone who fit the very restrictive list especially when so many cats need a good home.
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Re: Looking for a cat

Freerunner, I understand why the shelter would decline to rehome an animal to someone who has previously given an animal away.

Insufficient commitment to our pets is a huge problem today, and getting worse as people's lives become busier and more changeable. Too many people still see animals as disposable items, and folks involved in animal welfare are trying to combat that notion.

Rescues are not looking for just any home for their charges - no, rescues are looking for the right home - which by definition is the forever home.

When one buys, adopts or otherwise acquires a pet one has taken on a responsibility for the animal's natural lifetime. When one moves homes, moves to another country, takes a different job, finds a new partner, has children, or any other life change one must figure out a way to meet those changes and the pet's needs as well.

Having given your pet away once, the shelter would naturally be worried that you would do so again.

I would urge you to carefully examine your lifestyle now. Can you, hand on heart, say that you will never give another animal away, no matter what the winds of fate bring your way? If so, please keep searching for a feline friend.

But if you can even imagine another situation where you would have to give up on your pet again - now is not the time to get back into pet ownership. Please wait until your life is stable enough that you can indeed make a firm forever commitment.

All the best - to you and your future furry forever friend.
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They should spend more time and energy to find a loving family who will take care of the cat than trying to find someone who fit the very restrictive list especially when so many cats need a good home.
THANK YOU!!! Exactly!

It hearts to see a little animal with no home sitting in a cage for months, looking at you desperately when the "caring" lady is afraid that I will ever bring this cat back because once it has happened. Come on.
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Hi everyone,

I am looking to buy a little cat (kitty). Maybe you know someone who has kittens, maybe you have experience buying from shops, online platforms with ads? Any advise would be appreciated.
As far as I know pet shops in Switzerland don't sell kittens, neither do they sell puppies (which should be illegal anyways). If you live in a rural area you coul ask the farmers. I remember seeing a sign up around here where someone has kittens to give away.
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Freerunner, I understand why the shelter would decline to rehome an animal to someone who has previously given an animal away.

Insufficient commitment to our pets is a huge problem today, and getting worse as people's lives become busier and more changeable. Too many people still see animals as disposable items, and folks involved in animal welfare are trying to combat that notion.

Rescues are not looking for just any home for their charges - no, rescues are looking for the right home - which by definition is the forever home.

When one buys, adopts or otherwise acquires a pet one has taken on a responsibility for the animal's natural lifetime. When one moves homes, moves to another country, takes a different job, finds a new partner, has children, or any other life change one must figure out a way to meet those changes and the pet's needs as well.

Having given your pet away once, the shelter would naturally be worried that you would do so again.

I would urge you to carefully examine your lifestyle now. Can you, hand on heart, say that you will never give another animal away, no matter what the winds of fate bring your way? If so, please keep searching for a feline friend.

But if you can even imagine another situation where you would have to give up on your pet again - now is not the time to get back into pet ownership. Please wait until your life is stable enough that you can indeed make a firm forever commitment.

All the best - to you and your future furry forever friend.
Thank you Meloncollie for the comment.

First of all I did not give a cat away. I have found a better home for the cat. I have seen my cat recently. She is as happy as before. She feels wonderful.

So the "forever friend" to me does not mean that if I ever have a chance to improve the pet's life I have to reject an option just because I want it beside me. That is being a friend in my understanding.

Meloncollie, I don't want to explain my personal events at the time when I had to find a better home to the cat. But such events can not be neither planned nor predicted by me or by you.

I am a very responsible person so is my wife. We were always helping homeless cats, ill birds, animals hit by a car back home, regardless to the cost of operations and time involved. Swiss animals are very happy that they live in a country that cares about animals. But holding a cat in the cage - this is not caring. This is torturing!

I do not want to sound abusive but I personally think that the people in the animals refuges care about paperwork more than they do about the animals. Last time I had a clause that the shelter has a right to come anytime to my home and check in which conditions the pet lives. It sounds good to me. Sounds as they really care. But ask me how many time did the shelter call or come?? The answer is NEVER. It shows once again that the people are hiding behind the paperwork without actually using a good judgement and a simple care.
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Thank you Meloncollie for the comment.

First of all I did not give a cat away. I have found a better home for the cat. I have seen my cat recently. She is as happy as before. She feels wonderful.

So the "forever friend" to me does not mean that if I ever have a chance to improve the pet's life I have to reject an option just because I want it beside me. That is being a friend in my understanding.

Meloncollie, I don't want to explain my personal events at the time when I had to find a better home to the cat. But such events can not be neither planned nor predicted by me or by you.

I am a very responsible person so is my wife. We were always helping homeless cats, ill birds, animals hit by a car back home, regardless to the cost of operations and time involved. Swiss animals are very happy that they live in a country that cares about animals. But holding a cat in the cage - this is not caring. This is torturing!

I do not want to sound abusive but I personally think that the people in the animals refuges care about paperwork more than they do about the animals. Last time I had a clause that the shelter has a right to come anytime to my home and check in which conditions the pet lives. It sounds good to me. Sounds as they really care. But ask me how many time did the shelter call or come?? The answer is NEVER. It shows once again that the people are hiding behind the paperwork without actually using a good judgement and a simple care.
I'm with you dude, a cat or any animal is better off in your home, than stuck in a cage ready to be euthanized... no one knows if and when crap is gonna hit the fan, the fact that you found someone else to love and care for the cat Should have been a Bonus! shows you DO take responsibility, even when blitzed with having to leave the country.
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Same as MDG suggested... visit your local farmer.. they generally have tons and for free
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Re: Looking for a cat

Alternately, perhaps your vet knows of other of his clients which may be looking for a home for cats or kittens themselves. This is how hubby and I got our cat, as a suggestion from our vet's office (hubby and his mother had been taking their pets to his office for ages).


On the other hand, I so totally agree with the others about it being a forever commitment. Part of the reason why hubby and I have a cat now rather than a dog is that I was unable to bring my dog with me from the US. While I feel comfortable that if something happens (if / when we move back to the US for example), we'd be able to take the cat with us... for the size dog that I'd want, I do not have that same confidence.

So, for now, until I am sure I am settled someplace where plane fare / cargo charges for a dog will be unnecessary requirement of a move, I will be (mostly) content with my Bonny-cat Featherfoe.
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Thanks a lot. I came to the shelter today but ...... I was declined. I did take a cat from a shelter 5 years ago. It was a hassle because I needed to sign 3 pages contract with obligations not to allow a cat on the balcony, not to give it to friends for vacation time (=leave it in pet hotel only) etc. That is fine, I could live with that. But then I had to leave CH for one year contract and could not take a cat with me, and was single at this time. So I gave this cat to my vet who wanted this cat always. I had to do it involving the Shelter as per Contract. And now the interesting part. I was told today that because I took the commitment and did actually bring the cat back (even if I found a new owner, even if it is a veterinary doctor itself) I have lost the right to take any other cat from the shelter. I tried to explain that they have cats waiting in the cage for a new home for long time...... Well, I can't fight their decision anymore.... Also taking a cat from a shelter from another canton requires lots of paperwork and several trips and taking some nonsense obligations, I don't have time for this really.

I just want to get a kitten.
I see your location is Lugano. Have you tried an animal shelter in Italy. They're probably far less strict there.
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We've got two happy Siberian cats running around at this moment. We got them from an "official" breeder.

I really do think it's admirable to get a cat from a shelter. In fact, my last cat was from a shelter as well and she was a total sweetheart. Before I would have never considered a pedigree cat, but I noticed I was getting more and more allergic to cats. Since I was looking for a "forever friend" too I wanted to make sure that I would never have to get rid of the cat because of my allergies. (And Siberians are known for causing less allergic reactions.)

If you do decide to go for a pedigree cat (probably not, since you seem keen on "saving" one), please check if the breeder conducts all the proper tests. I've noticed that testing in Switzerland (and France and Italy) is not as common yet.
But don't expect less restrictions though, good breeders don't give out their kitties without a contract. I'm not exactly sure what's in the contract of our kitties, but I had to get them spayed before they turned 1. Also, I either have to keep them inside or in a cat-proof garden or balcony.

Even though some of you might think the restrictions are nonsense (ok, the one about not having a friend watching your cat when on holiday is a bit silly), I think it's a good development they're putting down some demands for people trying to adopt a cat. (Whether it's a pedigree cat or one from a shelter.) Maybe this way, cats will be viewed less as "disposable" items and people will actually think and realize that getting a pet means having this responsibility for a long time. (Not meaning you Freerunner, I think you handled your situation quite neatly.)

And the restriction about the balcony is actually quite valid in my opinion. I only left my cats outside on the balcony after me thinking it was cat-proof and one of em still managed to get outside the net and fell down from a 3 stories high apartment. (And this happens often to cats on balconies!) Luckily she was fine, but she could have easily broken her legs or worse. And there are a lot of people out there that are not willing to pay for an expensive operation for their cat. (Especially if the cat was free or around 100 CHF when an operation like that can cost thousands.) And what to do with those cats? That need surgery that nobody's willing to pay for? Put them down? Not very humane if you ask me. Better to take away the most likely cause of having to need such surgery.
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We've got two happy Siberian cats running around at this moment. We got them from an "official" breeder.

I really do think it's admirable to get a cat from a shelter. In fact, my last cat was from a shelter as well and she was a total sweetheart. Before I would have never considered a pedigree cat, but I noticed I was getting more and more allergic to cats. Since I was looking for a "forever friend" too I wanted to make sure that I would never have to get rid of the cat because of my allergies. (And Siberians are known for causing less allergic reactions.)

If you do decide to go for a pedigree cat (probably not, since you seem keen on "saving" one), please check if the breeder conducts all the proper tests. I've noticed that testing in Switzerland (and France and Italy) is not as common yet.
But don't expect less restrictions though, good breeders don't give out their kitties without a contract. I'm not exactly sure what's in the contract of our kitties, but I had to get them spayed before they turned 1. Also, I either have to keep them inside or in a cat-proof garden or balcony.

Even though some of you might think the restrictions are nonsense (ok, the one about not having a friend watching your cat when on holiday is a bit silly), I think it's a good development they're putting down some demands for people trying to adopt a cat. (Whether it's a pedigree cat or one from a shelter.) Maybe this way, cats will be viewed less as "disposable" items and people will actually think and realize that getting a pet means having this responsibility for a long time. (Not meaning you Freerunner, I think you handled your situation quite neatly.)

And the restriction about the balcony is actually quite valid in my opinion. I only left my cats outside on the balcony after me thinking it was cat-proof and one of em still managed to get outside the net and fell down from a 3 stories high apartment. (And this happens often to cats on balconies!) Luckily she was fine, but she could have easily broken her legs or worse. And there are a lot of people out there that are not willing to pay for an expensive operation for their cat. (Especially if the cat was free or around 100 CHF when an operation like that can cost thousands.) And what to do with those cats? That need surgery that nobody's willing to pay for? Put them down? Not very humane if you ask me. Better to take away the most likely cause of having to need such surgery.
Quite true iPinky. There will be a reason why that particular shelter has those conditions, but they're not the same everywhere. I know the SPAFribourg prefers that cats have access to at least a balcony if a garden isn't available. They would also prefer you, if possible, adopt two kittens rather than just one so they have company of their own kind.

It's certainly worth checking with your vet or other vets in the area as there are often small ads for pets looking for homes in their reception areas.
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I see your location is Lugano. Have you tried an animal shelter in Italy. They're probably far less strict there.
This is a very good advise. I have started checking in Como (15 minutes from Lugano) and found many options. There are kittens waiting for home in shelters and there are also private ads where people are looking for good homes for their kittens. My concern now is the paperwork required to take a cat in Italy and bring it over to Switzerland.

Thanks a lot!
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Freerunner, really really hope you will find a lucky kitten to whom you will give a lovely home. Try Ricardo.ch, many people try to find a home to kittens (for little money or lots of money for breeds) and also to rehome their cats when for some reason they cannot keep them any longer.

Best of luck and please post pictures of you new best friend when found
Thanks Cris. I did find some offers on the web-site suggested. Very nice ads site but the cats are pretty expensive though. Anyhow, they are definitely worth to consider. I promise to post the pictures of our new best friend as soon as we find one. Cheers!
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