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Old 22.11.2012, 00:39
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Re: Will this bring us problems ( cat attacked dog )

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ya can't tame a cat yo- they're not dogs
Mine respond to their names, sit, stand on their hind legs, shake, all on command.

Having had only dogs before these two cats, I didn't know how to train a cat, so I trained them the same way I would a dog (clicker training).
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Old 22.11.2012, 00:39
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Re: Will this bring us problems ( cat attacked dog )

I assumed he meant something like this:

http://www.sureflap.com.au/

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Old 22.11.2012, 00:40
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Mine respond to their names, sit, stand on their hind legs, shake, all on command.

Having had only dogs before these two cats, I didn't know how to train a cat, so I trained them the same way I would a dog (clicker training).
wow. my cats eat melon, respond to a few commands and then ignore them.
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Old 22.11.2012, 00:42
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I can understand how your cat flat may be at fault if your cat goes outside.

But the cat obviously entered a neighbor's house. Surely you can't be held responsible if they leave the dog flap open.
To me that raises the point of why should the neighbors' non-offending pet be locked inside while the cat is allowed out?

But, I also think that it (the neighbors locking their pet door) would probably be the simplest solution...
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Old 22.11.2012, 00:53
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Also should I offer to pay the vet bill as a sign of good faith?
Absolutely, I can't believe this is even open for discussion. Your pet, for which you are responsible, entered someone's house and incurred damages, of course you should pay the vet bill.
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Old 22.11.2012, 00:54
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To me that raises the point of why should the neighbors' non-offending pet be locked inside while the cat is allowed out?

But, I also think that it (the neighbors locking their pet door) would probably be the simplest solution...
We used too have a lot of trouble with other people's cats coming inside our house at night, eating our cat's food and fighting with our cat. If cats will fight outside, that's one thing. But at least within the house, our cat is entitled to be safe from such attacks. So we started closing the cat flap at night. Of course that was unfair on our cat, who couldn't go out during those hours, but on the whole it was the better solution for us all.

Of course an electronically controlled cat flap would be an even better solution, combining the best of both worlds.
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Old 22.11.2012, 01:09
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Re: Will this bring us problems ( cat attacked dog )

As I understand it, in the UK, the cat is considered a wild animal rather than a domesticated pet. The owner is not responsible for its actions as they are for a dog. I don't see why this wouldn't apply elsewhere.
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Old 22.11.2012, 01:12
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As I understand it, in the UK, the cat is considered a wild animal rather than a domesticated pet. The owner is not responsible for its actions as they are for a dog. I don't see why this wouldn't apply elsewhere.
In the US, it is generally the opposite: cats are pets and the responsibility of the owner.
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Old 22.11.2012, 01:13
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As I understand it, in the UK, the cat is considered a wild animal rather than a domesticated pet. The owner is not responsible for its actions as they are for a dog. I don't see why this wouldn't apply elsewhere.
Same in Switzerland.

I think the OP is right though to offer to pay the vet bills.

It's the difference between what the law says and what is morally right.
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Old 22.11.2012, 01:19
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Same in Switzerland.

I think the OP is right though to offer to pay the vet bills.

It's the difference between what the law says and what is morally right.
I remember reading something here that quoted Swiss law as recognizing a cat's right to roam (not the exact words they use, but it expresses the spirit), which is not extended to a dog, but that it still affirms that owners can be held liable for damages resulting from cats. So, it sounds like a hybrid of the two sides.
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Re: Will this bring us problems ( cat attacked dog )

I really hope the OP is feeding meat to his cats. Cats are obligate carnivores -- they absolutely need to eat meat. Maybe that's why the moggy went into the neighbour's house: to raid the chihuahua's food bowl.

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Old 22.11.2012, 01:59
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Re: Will this bring us problems ( cat attacked dog )

First, props to the cat for giving shit to those that need it most; little yappy dogs who really don't understand that they are small and stupid. Case in point, a little tibetan terrier who went for my Saint's balls in a dog park once....I was a little slow on telling him to drop the little bastard, but I did tell the owner that, you know, if you want him to live a long life maybe you should teach him a little fear of a 160+ pound dog who could eat him in one chomp and didn't only because I told him not to.

That being said, I used to leave my side door open on warm nights to let the Saint roam to the cool outdoors when I started to notice little kitty prints in the kitchen some mornings (I'm not a cat person, but I guess I never thought cats would roam into the house of a) a dog and b) unfamiliar territory. He would occasionally leave us gifts of dead mice but I did sometimes worry the giant love muffin might get territorial and try to eat said cat. Thankfully, that never happened. As a dog owner, though, I do find the casual attitude of letting cats roam in a way that dogs would never be a little bit unfair...but cats don't bark and are quiet otherwise so, in some ways it's understandable.

I wonder if any owner of such a fru-fru 'dog' like a chi will admit that it had its ass handed to it by a cat though.
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Old 22.11.2012, 02:20
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Cook and eat the fekking pussy and kill all birds with one stone...
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Re: Will this bring us problems ( cat attacked dog )

OP,

Sorry to hear about what happened.

To keep everyone (pets and owners) happy and on good terms in the long run, would it be an idea to ask the neighbor if s/he would agree to fixing the same type of dog flap to her house as you have for your cat (i.e. a flap which only opens when doggie approaches it due to it reacting to his chip)? That way, your cat(s) can't get in their house anymore and Fifi remains safe.

You could offer to foot the bill of that kind of dog flap instead of or along with the vet bill.


Whatever you decide to do, good luck to you and the pets involved.
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I guess you won't be drinking champagne with them anymore but maybe you've found a sparring partner.
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Mine respond to their names, sit, stand on their hind legs, shake, all on command.

Having had only dogs before these two cats, I didn't know how to train a cat, so I trained them the same way I would a dog (clicker training).
Yeah, but unlike a dog, they are flipping you the bird when your back is turned and are advanced in their plan to murder you in the perfect crime
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Old 22.11.2012, 08:25
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Re: Will this bring us problems ( cat attacked dog )

As mentioned before, your animal attacked their animal, so of course you must pay the vet bill, this is your responsability.

Now, it's important to find a way to let the dog and the cats coexist in a peacful way, or at least as peacefully as possible. The best is portably to ensure there's no contact between them.

My dog is small, about cat-size, and has no problems with cats when we meet them on the street. She ignores them, or would like to sniff them and play a bit if they agree (they usually don't though). But on our terrace things are different: this is her territory, and if they come here she goes barking after them. Note that she stops at barking to chase them: she never tried to actually touch one.

But some cats are insane too. My dog got viciously attacked by a big black tomcat from our upstairs neighbours. We passed next to him on the sidewalk, and the cat jumped at my Dog's face for no apparent reason, living her very scared.
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Perhaps the cat can be trained to do other things...
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Re: Will this bring us problems ( cat attacked dog )

I just had to say, your cat is a Ninja cat

I would def offer to pay the vet bill. I bet the dog owners got a bit of fright at 2am....the crazy things our pets do.
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Old 22.11.2012, 09:09
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Re: Will this bring us problems ( cat attacked dog )

1. Pay the vet bill.
2. Give Fluffy a treat for a job well done.

It is unlikely to happen again. Your cat has made it clear he's the boss.
The little dog probably won't mess with him again, so your cat won't need to open a can (again).
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