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Old 27.02.2008, 14:06
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Re: Wild cats in Aargau

Im happy for you that you finally found out what it was
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Old 27.02.2008, 15:00
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Re: Wild cats in Aargau

Thanks Sutter - it was an interesting investigation. I have learnt much more about my adopted country's flaura and fauna. Met a few interesting people in the bar last night as well.
Thanks for all the help and suggestions. The "dog" inference by monkeynut was not too far off the mark. I suppose a raccoon Dog is closer to a dog than a cat
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Old 29.02.2008, 12:17
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Re: Wild cats in Aargau

By the way, if you walk along the middle of the river fork and below the power station opposite Villnachern you will likely find beaver. You may not see the beaver very often, but you will see their dams and trees they have gnawed down.

And yes, my friends in Villnachern did see a racoon near their house some years ago, but since they now have a big dog, horses and cats, the racoon probably steers clear of them now. We were joking about setting a photo trap baited with cat food for the racoon, but figured we'd only get hundreds of photos of cats.
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Re: Wild cats in Aargau

I grew up in/near San Francisco, and we have raccoons everywhere. Meanest little b$%stards you will ever meet! Cute and cuddly looking, but they can beat the piss out of any cat or dog and can carry rabies.

Very intelligent and absolutely love garbage and and cat/dog food left outside. They are well known to rip down screen doors or to come in houses through the pet doors to get at food...even inside a refrigerator. Again, smart and quite dexterous.

Sorry to hear they are in CH now if non-native. They will spread like wildfire.

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I love racoons, wiley, intelligent rascals. Plenty around where I grew up and there were two I could regularly pet and play with, kept me laughing for hours. Sharp teeth and claws though, not much afraid of anything either. Seen a few dogs get their come-uppances. Hope you do get some pics sometime.

As long as garbage bags are left where racoons, foxes, marders or even the ocassional duck can get at them, they will. Can't blame the animals, just easy pickings for them. In what part of Aargau did you see this critter?
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Re: Wild cats in Aargau

Just to clarify. It was not a normal raccoon - it was a Raccon Dog. These originate from Aisa and have quite different habits. (According to what i found out)
The latin name is Nyctereutes procyonoides whereas the normal raccoon is Procyon lotor.
My friend told me that there are hundreds of normal raccoons in southern Germany.
My "Dog" looks much cuter
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Re: Wild cats in Aargau

uh...J_T, can I ask why you would "groan" this post? You may like raccoons, but if they are non-native, Switzerland is in for some problems. I am sure there are no predators and they will become major pests. They can also carry diseases that harmful to domestic pets.

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I grew up in/near San Francisco, and we have raccoons everywhere. Meanest little b$%stards you will ever meet! Cute and cuddly looking, but they can beat the piss out of any cat or dog and can carry rabies.

Very intelligent and absolutely love garbage and and cat/dog food left outside. They are well known to rip down screen doors or to come in houses through the pet doors to get at food...even inside a refrigerator. Again, smart and quite dexterous.

Sorry to hear they are in CH now if non-native. They will spread like wildfire.
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Old 29.02.2008, 13:33
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Re: Wild cats in Aargau

Why you are right of course. Any minor inconvenience to human habitation and exploitation of the environment should be mercilessly and totally destroyed.

I grew up with racoons everywhere in VA, TN, WV, OR, CA, etc. Please don't lecture me about racoons or species that are disappearing everywhere.
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Old 29.02.2008, 13:40
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Re: Wild cats in Aargau

Excuse me, but the only one lecturing is you. I am not talking about minor inconvenience to human habitation and certainly never said anything like "mercilessly and totally destroyed." WTF is that all about?

I am talking about introduction of non-native species into CH and that could be a problem.

Groan me all you want, I think enough other people have appreciated my posts. But give a thought to what I have actually said before you try to put words in my mouth.

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Why you are right of course. Any minor inconvenience to human habitation and exploitation of the environment should be mercilessly and totally destroyed.

I grew up with racoons everywhere in VA, TN, WV, OR, CA, etc. Please don't lecture me about racoons or species that are disappearing everywhere.
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Re: Wild cats in Aargau

jbrady - Interesting to hear you say that your new friend "screamed" when you got close to it. I have never seen a raccoon dog so curious to hear what noises they make. Any more contact with it?

BTW, the renowned naturalist, Hermann Goering (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Goering) is said to have released regular raccoons into the German wilderness in 1934 to "enrich the fauna."

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Just to clarify. It was not a normal raccoon - it was a Raccon Dog. These originate from Aisa and have quite different habits. (According to what i found out)
The latin name is Nyctereutes procyonoides whereas the normal raccoon is Procyon lotor.
My friend told me that there are hundreds of normal raccoons in southern Germany.
My "Dog" looks much cuter

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Old 29.02.2008, 14:47
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Re: Wild cats in Aargau

It was more like a small wolf howl - bit like a baby. It tried to curl in a ball. Quite funny really.
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Old 29.02.2008, 15:12
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Re: Wild cats in Aargau

Appears that raccoon dogs are to raccoons as honeybees are to killer bees...

Hope to see one some time. Interesting to read that they originally come from Asia.

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Re: Wild cats in Aargau

Just found an absolutely disgusting film about Raccoon dogs. They breed them in cages for their fur. When I made a search for Raccoon Dog there was and entry which says "Raccoon Dog: A Brutal Ending" which shows a group of people dragging off the pelts of these dog while they are still alive.
Will not put a link to this - if you want to watch, just to show what sort of animals some people are, then you can google for it yourself.
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Re: Wild cats in Aargau

I'll skip that, thanks. Racoons are rare in Switzerland, however racoon dogs (marderhund) are like hen's teeth, with about three found as roadkill in something like the last ten years. They are not agressive, stay out of sight and scream if cornered or threatened, and hibernate in winter.
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Re: Wild cats in Aargau

Hi J Brady,

Thank you so much for solving a mystery that has been bugging me for a week now! We went out last Thursday early evening to look at a farm house we were considering renting. Just as we turned to come back home,a creature that matches the description of the creature you saw,came out of the woods.

My daughter and I stood watching to see what it would do, we were a distance from it but I know it could hear us. Initially I thought wild cat but it didn't move like a cat particularly and when my daughter clapped her hands it turned suddenly and its eyes were bright yellow. It eventually went back into the forest.We have been back twice but not seen it, going to try again this weekend and hopefully get a picture of him/her. I just love the wildlife in this country,we are hoping to get a more rural typed house in the village so we can enjoy more and more of it. We are a bit too close to a main road to see much where we are.

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