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Bringing a puppy over from Germany? help!

I have been trying to buy a Bolonka Zwetna puppy off professional breeders round my area and I have been messed around a few times now... The ones I know of won't now be having litters until the middle/ or late next year. There are breeders just over the border and I was wondering how it would work if I bought a dog from Germany? What different rules apply? Would the pedigree certificates still count?

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Re: Bringing a puppy over from Germany? help!

Have you ever had a dog registered in your name in the ANIS database*? If not, have you done the SKN theory course, as required under the TSchV before acquiring a dog?

If not, get that done first.


Everything you need to know about the process of importing a dog into Switzerland can be found here:
http://blv.bytix.com/plus/dbr/default.aspx?lang=de


After the dog arrives, you have 10 days to register the dog with ANIS, which can only be done by a vet. So make an appointment soon.


Additionally, you will need to register the dog with your Gemeinde, and pay the dog tax.


You will then have 12 months to take the SKN Practical course.




As for pedigrees - a VDH pedigree is recognized by the SKG, as both are FCI. I believe that there is an 'Einburgerung' sort of process with the breed club, but more than that I do not know - that whole part of the canine world isn't my thing. Your best bet is to get in touch with the breed club for further info.

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I've just seen that the Bolonka Zwetna is not recognized by the SKG, nor is it recognized by the FCI. It is however recognized by the VDH, within Germany.
http://www.vdh.de/welpen/mein-welpe/...ationale-rasse

Do make sure you understand what non-FCI status means in terms of breed standard, breed health and temperament testing, ethics of breeding, etc.

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Just an FYI, though... it is quite normal to find long waiting list for responsible breeders. Expect to be grilled by a good German breeder as you would be by a good Swiss one.


* The theory course is required of all first time dog owners. Proof of prior ownership is registration under your name on ANIS. If you have owned a dog before but not in Switzerland, you must contact the cantonal Veterinäramt with proof of prior ownership for a ruling on whether you will be excused from the Theory requirement, or not.



ETA:

Here is a summary of the Basel Stadt Hundegesetz:
http://www.tierimrecht.org/de/tiersc...asel-stadt.php

And Basel Land:
http://www.tierimrecht.org/de/tiersc...basel-land.php

Be aware that you will also need liability insurance.

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Re: Bringing a puppy over from Germany? help!

Is this who you have been speaking to? Www.bolonka.ch
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Re: Bringing a puppy over from Germany? help!

Here's the BLV info Meloncollie posted in English, if you need that language.

http://blv.bytix.com/plus/dbr/default.aspx?lang=en
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Re: Bringing a puppy over from Germany? help!

We brought ours from Germany. One key difference is that you're allowed to take them from the litter at 8 weeks instead of 10.

You should also stop at customs, tell them you bought the dog and ask for the appropriate stamp after paying taxes - if you have a breeder who is accustomed to cross-border sales, he/she will be able to provide you with the appropriate paperwork in advance, which the guards stamp and you send back to the breeder, and the breeder then sends you a refund for German taxes.

But that's just a practical point - Meloncollie's info will all be pretty key for you.
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Re: Bringing a puppy over from Germany? help!

Thanks to everyone, your posts have been so helpful! No Sophie I was speaking with a lady called Astrid, I specifically told her that I was very interested in having a girl puppy and she said that the earliest she could let me come and see her puppies was on the 18th so I waited 2 weeks for the visit, (extremely exited) and when I went to confirm with her on the day what time I would be arriving she then told me all the girls had gone! Have you had trouble with a breeder too?
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Re: Bringing a puppy over from Germany? help!

Emma, the process of purchasing a puppy from a recognized, ethical breeder here in Switzerland might be a bit different from what you expect.

Generally it's not just a case of 'I want a pup, I have the money, when can I have him?' Rather, good breeders keep waiting lists, some years long, and often the pups are already spoken for well before conception.

Generally you are going to need to establish a relationship with a breeder well in advance of a litter being born to get on the waiting list. A good breeder will want to know all about you, expect you to show him/her that you will be the right kind of owner for his/her pups.

It is important to understand that for some breeds there is more demand than supply - most Swiss FCI breeders (and good breeders everywhere) can afford to be choosey. It is not unusual for the process to take a long time, sometimes years.

Here are some good threads on EF members' experiences:
3 scams, 2 rejects and a puppy
How to spot a reputable breeder
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Re: Bringing a puppy over from Germany? help!

I completely understand that some people don't fulfill what a breeder is looking for. Unfortunately, I really think in this case it was just the breeder. I have completed the SKN dog theory course and already own a male Bolonka of my own. I already explained that he is getting neutered when he is 6 months old. I am also very fortunate to be able to spend all day with my dog. We have no kids, money issues, restrictions of any kind. I was devastated when she told me they had all gone. I know that breeders have the right to be picky but to get peoples hopes up by promising I could see them and then taking back her word is just damn right rude.

No reputable breeder should do this to a client.
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Re: Bringing a puppy over from Germany? help!

Oh how annoying. No we haven't had trouble with a breeder as ours is a bolonka/puli mutt but you could try the lady who breeds the dog on the website I sent you. Good luck. S

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Thanks to everyone, your posts have been so helpful! No Sophie I was speaking with a lady called Astrid, I specifically told her that I was very interested in having a girl puppy and she said that the earliest she could let me come and see her puppies was on the 18th so I waited 2 weeks for the visit, (extremely exited) and when I went to confirm with her on the day what time I would be arriving she then told me all the girls had gone! Have you had trouble with a breeder too?
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Re: Bringing a puppy over from Germany? help!

Thanks, I think I've found a breeder in Germany off the website Tierwelt But I want to make sure before I think about going ahead with it that the papers are correct and the puppy will come with a pet passport, vaccinations, microchip etc. I'll also visit first
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