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Looking for a dog to walk now and then

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I am looking for a dog, one of the larger size. Iīve had dogs my whole life. Everything for small to big. I moved here to Zurich, Switzerland in januari 2014. I had a flat coated retriever back home in Sweden. But we put him down summer 2013, because of age. He was my baby. And I miss having a dog, so much!

So, I am looking for you who needs an extra hand with walking or "babysitting" once in a while. I am active, so I would prefer a larger dog that I could take out running or taking longer walks with. I live in zurich, so close to the city would be best for all of us.

Contact me for further information and details.

Best regards, Amanda
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Old 16.10.2014, 22:54
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Re: Looking for a dog to walk now and then

AFAIK you need to have training to have a dog here (with your dog), so would suggest that if you really want one you start doing your background reseach as to what it entails.

Lots of info on the Forum that you should be able to find with the search function.

Failing that some of your fellow dog lovers will be here to give you some hints and tips as to what this entails.

Good luck.
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Re: Looking for a dog to walk now and then

Hello Carlos.

Maybe I was not clear enough. I am not looking to have a dog on my own. I just want a dog as a company once in a while when I am out running/walking. I donīt have time for a dog on my own, because I know how much time it takes.

I am very much aware that you need to have a licens to have a dog here in Switzerland. But thank you for writing.

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Old 16.10.2014, 23:04
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Re: Looking for a dog to walk now and then

You might also want to read this sticky that explains the qualifications needed to take care of other people's dogs. Sorry to hear about your own dog.

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Hello Carlos.

Maybe I was not clear enough. I am not looking to have a dog on my own. I just want a dog as a company once in a while when I am out running/walking. I donīt have time for a dog on my own, because I know how much time it takes.

I am very much aware that you need to have a licens to have a dog here in Switzerland. But thank you for writing.

Best regards.
I understand that, but the dog ownership laws here are quite strict so any dog owner is going to want to know that you've done the SKN course at least before they let you loose with their pet. This course is mandatory for all dog owners and professionals working with dogs throughout all the cantons, but even people like you should take it so you know what the rules are when they are taking a dog out. Note also that Zurich has additional regulations for dog owners of larger/heavier breeds too, though you may not need to take any courses as you're not looking to be paid for this.

For example, do you know your gemeinde's rules on dogs. Can they be off lead or not? Only in certain areas? Where do you usually run/walk? Do you cross the boundary over into another gemeinde and what are their rules on dogs? Maybe they require certain breeds of dogs to wear a muzzle at all times. These are the sort of things people are going to want to know you know when giving their pet into your care.
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Re: Looking for a dog to walk now and then

A thought for you Anero. If you take the SKN course, how about seeing if you can walk some of the dogs at your local animal refuge? I'm sure they'd appreciate the help.
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any dog owner is going to want to know that you've done the SKN course at least before they let you loose with their pet.
That is just not true.....Do you guys actually have dogs or just like scaring people and giving mis-information?

My dog carers certainly don't have this qualification and they are fine.......many other animal carers don't, and have plenty of business from sites like http://petsitting24.ch/en

I would put an advert on the above site too, am sure someone would appreciate the help.......
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Re: Looking for a dog to walk now and then

Poot, the law is clear - anyone providing dog care services for pay is required to have either the SKN (for up to 5 dogs), the FBA (for up to 19 dogs) or the Tierpfleger diploma ( for more than 19 dogs.) Additionally, depending on the service offered one might also need to be registered with the cantonal Vererinaeramt.

This does not apply if one is not being paid. You can still do a favor for a friend, even in Switzerland.

Are there people offering paid dog care who are working illegally? Yes there are, just as there are lots of people doing all kinds of Schwarzarbeit all over Switzerland everyday. But the fact that other people do it doesn't make it right, and won't get you off the hook if a problem arises.

A unique twist to the dog law is that it is expressly encumbent on the dog owner to ensure that the provider is compliant. The dog owner bears the greatest liability.

Speaking of liability, you may find that your Privathaftpflicht will not cover you if the dog carer is being paid and is not working in your home, and you may find that the insurance company refuses coverage if the carer is non compliant.

Yes it does indeed seem that the law is generally only enforced when a problem arises. Typically this happens when a complaint is made for some other reason and then it is found out that the carer lacks the SKN as well.

Two examples:

A local dog sitter received a complaint about barking. The police came to speak to the sitter, and in the course of the conversation it came to light that the sitter had not done the SKN courses. She was told she must stop sitting immediately, the dog owners were called to return from their holidays early to pick up the dogs. The dog owners were all fined.

Another sitter takes dogs into her own home on a casual basis. One of the dogs, a very young puppy, chewed the sitter's couch while left unattended for some hours. The sitter demanded that the owner pay for a new couch. The owner's insurer refused to cover the cost, as the damage occurred on the premises of a commercial provider who should have had her own liability insurance. And they pointed out that using a commercial provider noncompliant with the SKN requirements would be grounds for refusing coverage as well.

(Legal and financial issues aside, had these sitters taken the courses they would have known that a puppy cannot be left for hours unsupervised, that dogs cannot be allowed to bark during quiet hours. The reason the SKN is required for casual commercial sitters is that anyone being paid to care for a dog should at a minimum have the same knowledge required of an owner.)

Like so many regulations in Switzerland the dog care training requirements are based on the honor system. It is assumed that both the carer and the owner will follow the law. But as we all know, even in rule-laden Switzerland many people blithely ignore all laws they find personally inconvenient... Kein Richter, Kein Klage, as they say 'round here. And many people get away with it. But should a problem occur, the law is there to hit you over the head.

The question to ask yourself is: in deciding to use a sitter who is working illegally, are you prepared to take the consequences, to put your dog at risk, if a problem arises?

As said, the law is clear. What you choose to do with that information is up to you.


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ETA:

If you find an otherwise promising dog carer who has not done the SKN, why not sponsor that person for the classes? It's such an inexpensive course, only about 150 each. Insignificant, really, compared to the cost of dog care overall, and a small price to pay for the peace of mind that your dog is not being put at risk. The sitter could even take the class while caring for your dog. Win-win all around.

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Re: Looking for a dog to walk now and then

Apero, do look into volunteering with a Tierheim, as Medea suggests. Volunteer dog walkers are vital to the dog's wellbeing, providing not only exercise but also socialization and training that will help the dog to find a home. Without these good folks the poor dog's stay in the shelter would be bleak. Very rewarding work.

Each shelter will have it's own policies for volunteers. Some ask you to attend an orientation, some offer an SKN course gratis to volunteers, some do not ask for anything other than a willing heart and helping hand. Technically, as you are volunteering and not being paid the SKN requirements do not apply, but A volunteer who has taken the courses will of course be looked on favorably. FYI, most Tierheim will cover a volunteer under their own liability policy, but you should discuss this with the individual shelter.

If you are interested in volunteering, simply get in touch with the shelter, ask about how you go about getting involved in their program.

Good luck!
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Re: Looking for a dog to walk now and then

Perhaps some expats just need to find friends with dogs?

We have an older chihuahua and have friends in the area with dogs as well. Dog babysitting laws aside, expats in Zurich are usually happy to assist with dog babysitting needs...

Hope this helps...may all your dog walking dreams come true!
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Re: Looking for a dog to walk now and then

Doc, you are very fortunate to have friends who are willing - and able - to help out.

But many folks are here with no support network, no friends who are have the experience needed or are willing to step in. And given that a large portion of Switzerland is forced to take holidays at the same time due to school schedules, those few willing (and capable) friends might already be promised to someone else. For the folks who do not have that support network a commercial dog sitter is necessary.

I'm one of those. I have dogs (note the plural) with medical and/or behavioral issues so I have very specific requirements of a dog sitter, and it is imperative that my requirements are followed to the letter. This is more than I could in good conscience ask of a friend so I prefer to pay a qualified dog sitter in order to ensure that my dogs get the care they need.

The important thing is that a dog owner in Switzerland understand what the law requires of him/her, and makes decisions with that knowledge.

Hence the comments on this thread.

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As timely a reminder folks:

Summer holidays are fast approaching. Dog sitters - both friends and professionals - will be in great demand so make arrangements well ahead of your travel plans!
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Re: Looking for a dog to walk now and then

um, yes, melloncollie, I believe most of your points were already mentioned in this thread. There is a large expat community alive and well within Zurich and many professionals need this kind of loving care that you provide for their own pets. I'm sure that any one looking for dog walking or dog sitting can tap into this network and find exactly what they are looking for, professional or not...
I also am aware that summer holidays are coming up and those with school age children need pet care as well. In fact, Switzerland has a LOT of holidays and most professionals need dog care for at least the weekend holidays, legal requirements met or not....
I am also aware that pet care can be quite expensive within Zurich and the surrounding areas and I also know that there are many, many qualified, professional dog walkers, dog groomers, and dog baby sitters within Zurich, surrounding areas, and within the expat communities that Zurich so proudly serves.
With all of this in mind, I hope this answered the ORIGINAL question: where can I find a dog walker/ go on walks with a dog? Such a simple question, but the Swiss are eager to provide a more than simple answer. The Swiss tend to be very serious about the care of their pets as they are also with the care of their children, the care of themselves, and the care of their careers. I wish you happy dog walking adventures!
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Re: Looking for a dog to walk now and then

I live in Schlieren, so 9 min with the train. We have a greyhoung (galgo), she needs a lot of walking and there is a lot of nature around here. Please feel free to send me a private message. :-)
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Re: Looking for a dog to walk now and then

Seeing that OP hasnīt been here for a year, chances are slim OP will read this
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