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Dogs: Federal SKN and Cantonal Obligatory Course and Trainer Recommendation Thread

IMPORTANT INFORMATION, 20 Sept 2016

Parliament has voted to abolish the SKN regulations. At this point we do not know how, or when this will be implemented. Once more is known an update will be added to the end of this thread.

For the time being, this thread is being left as is - but please read it for background information only, and please watch for further updates.

The SKN was a federal law, the cantons are still free to implement their own dog control measures. For the moment, those living in the cantons that have imposed their own training regulations should assume they still stand.

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It’s time we put this information in one thread.

To keep the thread as ‘user friendly’ as possible, I’ll ask that we restrict posts to adding your trainer recommendations and to leave questions or comments on the federal or cantonal mandatory training courses to other threads.

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But first, a quick overview of the training requirements for dog owners in Switzerland:

Life with dogs is regulated at three levels in Switzerland. Dog (and other animal) welfare is regulated at the federal level while dog control is regulated at the cantonal and community levels.

One needs to understand and follow not only federal law, but also the various laws and regulations in your canton and community of residence, and any canton or community you and your dog visit.

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At the federal level, all dog owners are required to take two classes, the Sachkundenachweis (SKN) Theory and Practical classes.

(And yes, training your dog is a welfare issue. )

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The SKN Theory class is required of all first time dog owners. This course is designed to get you thinking of what it means to share your life with a dog, to prepare you for the responsibilities you will be taking on for the next 15+ years. An overview of the various dog laws that apply should also be covered.

The SKN Theory course must be done BEFORE you acquire the dog.

‘First time owner’ is usually defined as not having had a dog registered in your name prior to 1 Sept 2008 in the AMICUS (formerly ANIS) database. But newcomers to Switzerland who have previously owned a dog abroad, and thus obviously are not in the database, are something of a special case. If this applies to you, you need to contact the cantonal Veterinäramt for a ruling on whether you need to take the Theory course, or not. The decision is individual.

The SKN Theory course usually is done in 2 sessions.

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The second obligatory course at the federal level is the SKN Practical course. This is required of all dog owners who acquired a dog after 1 Sept 2008. The course must be taken within 12 months of acquiring a dog, and must be taken with each and every dog acquired after that date.

In the case of newcomers who move to Switzerland with a dog acquired before 1 Sept 2008, again contact the cantonal Veterinäramt for a ruling.

The SKN Practical is usually done in 4-5 sessions. It covers basic care, an introduction to basic training, basic exercises, and offers a spring board for discussions pertinent to you and your dog.

There is no test to pass with either federal SKN course. Attendance and participation are what is required.

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Many trainers give out a certificate attesting your having completed the course. Keep this for your files.

The new AMICUS database contains fields to list the courses you have done (not just mandatory courses btw) with each of your dogs. Ask your trainer to fill this out.

(As of this writing, given that kinks in the system are still being ironed out, there might be some confusion with this. If so, ask your trainer to contact the Gemeinde.)

The federal law which brought the SKN classes about specifically left compliance to the honor system. However, remember that dog control is at the cantonal/Gemeinde level, and some Gemeinden check up on whether you have done the mandatory courses. With the new database I would expect that such checks might become more frequent. Be aware that one can be fined for non-compliance.

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As above, some newcomers to Switzerland might be excused from the classes. However, I strongly recommend that all newcomers take both classes even if not required to do so, as dog law, ownership etiquette, and Swiss society’s expectations of dog owners might be quite different from what you know at home. The SKN classes are a good 'soft landing' for you and your dog as you embark on your Swiss adventure.

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You can read more about the federal dog training requirements on the BLV's Mein Heimtier website, which links to the various pertinent pages of the BLV's main site.

The BLV site has limited English content, many important BLV pages are only available in the national languages. If you do not read German, French, or Italian please have someone translate for you. This is information you need to know.

http://www.meinheimtier.ch/de/hunde


The federal database of certified SKN trainers can be found here:
http://blv.bytix.com/plus/trainer/

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Some of the cantons have enacted dog laws that require training courses above and beyond the SKN, and in some cantons owners of listed breeds, owners of dogs of a certain size, or households with more than one dog are required to do additional courses. You will need to check the regs in your canton of residence to determine what you need to do.

A summary of each canton's dog law, including additional training requirements where these are in force, can be found on the Tier Im Recht website. Click on the canton for the summary, a link to the actual text of the law(s) is at the top of the page.

http://www.tierimrecht.org/de/tiersc...echt/index.php

Most cantons have a page discussing cantonal dog law within their websites. This can usually be found under the cantonal Veterinäramt or general cantonal site.


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I urge all dog owners to not only comply with federal and cantonal training regulations, but to also consider going beyond them. Training is a life-long process, an activity that strengthens the bond between you and your four footed friend.

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And now to the real purpose of this thread.

We have seen many threads where newcomers to Switzerland and newcomers to dog ownership ask about trainers for the obligatory classes and beyond, especially those who can do classes in English. So to make it easier, let’s try to put our recommendations in one place.

Please post your recommendations, and please include:

- The canton the trainer is working in,

- The trainer's contact details, please link a website where possible,

- Which mandatory classes the trainer is qualified to offer (SKN, required cantonal courses),

- Any brief comments you wish to include,

- The languages the trainer is willing to work in.

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Re: The Federal SKN and Cantonal Obligatory Course and Trainer Recommendation Thread

I’ll kick off:


Canton SZ

Jeanette Schuler Ponte, Kurse für Hunde, in Wollerau SZ and Einsiedeln SZ:

http://www.kurse-fuer-hunde.ch

Jeanette is certified to teach the federal SKN courses and the Zürich cantonal List 1 courses.

I have been training with Jeanette for 10 years now, and highly recommend her. I have done the SKN courses with her with three dogs now, enjoyed every class, and learned something new every time. (We also do Familienhund and various dog sports regularly.) She is very knowledgeable, presents the material with a good mixture of theory and practicality, and is a lot of fun to work with. Jeanette has been an invaluable support through my many challenges with my ’nutcase’ dogs, via both individual behavioral work and group courses.

Classes are in German. (But there are several of us English speakers who regularly take classes with her and could likely help you out if needed. If you have a little German, you would likely be fine.)


Canton ZH

Martina Mettler, Compecane, in Weinigen, Oberglatt and surrounding areas, ZH

http://www.compecane.ch/eine-seite/news/

Martina is certified to teach the SKN classes, and the Zürich List 1 Junghund/Erwachsene courses.

In addition to the obligatory courses and various training classes, Martina has a special interest in working with senior and disabled dogs. She was a huge help with my deaf old man Haifisch (and his ‘assistance dog’ Hooligan). She has taught me so much about how to work with (and live with) elderly and disabled dogs to give them the best quality of life possible.

Classes are in German.



So over to all y’all for further recommendations…

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Re: The Federal SKN and Cantonal Obligatory Course and Trainer Recommendation Thread

Huge thanks to meloncollie for getting this started.

In order to keep this thread accurate, relevant, and uncluttered with OT posts, we'll keep it locked. If you have information to share for a certified trainer (not an ad for yourself), or additional information about cantonal laws that others will find useful, please PM a mod and ask for the thread to be temporarily reopened so you can add your info.
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Re: The Federal SKN and Cantonal Obligatory Course and Trainer Recommendation Thread

A friendly notice


New pet owners:


Our user Meloncollie and others regularly and readily post very helpful info on pet care and especially the SKN course on the EF, and I'm certain they will help you if the need should arise.
To help us keep the number of new threads and posts regarding the SKN issue low, please read the above information regarding the SKN before asking questions and starting new threads on the issue.

Thank you.

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Helpful EFers:


Please refer new pet owners with SKN queries and general questions regarding dog courses to this thread as a first step, so that they can read up on the requirements and see if they have questions which haven't yet been covered in this helpful thread.

Thank you for your help.
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