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Old 26.09.2016, 12:42
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Not for me though. We took the training, and I can say that it was the most useless sessions of anything I have attended in my life. Even worst than some meetings at the office! Maybe also because we have a gentle dog and not an agressive one :-)
I can tell you the same about the mandatory Verkehrskundeunterricht. But considering how dim witted some people are even the least can help a bit. And honestly, the course is targeted at the dim witted one not able to read a book and inform themselves before getting a dog.
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Not for me though. We took the training, and I can say that it was the most useless sessions of anything I have attended in my life.
This is why I would have like to see more quality control measures introduced.

The SKN course taken with a truly good trainer - that is, one who is as passionate about educating owners as about training dogs - is a fantastic course. As any teacher knows, it's all in how you present the subject matter. It's not just about information presented, but about discussion, interactive learning, tailoring the material to the needs and interests of the participants, human and canine. I've done it three times with my trainer and each time found it highly worthwhile.

I am fortunate to have an outstanding trainer - her courses are not only informative and practical - but as importantly, lots of fun for both owners and their dogs.



I know that one complaint picked up in the media was of people who supposedly only became trainers once the SKN was introduced, people who had little experience beyond the certifying course. I don't know how many of those there were - certainly the trainers I know who took SKN certification had been working as professional trainers for years before, had decades of experience, regularly attended continuing education classes, etc.

I don't doubt that there were some poor trainers who ran a useless class. But that was no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater - fixing the problem trainers would have been a more sensible step.
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This is why I would have like to see more quality control measures introduced.

The SKN course taken with a truly good trainer - that is, one who is as passionate about educating owners as about training dogs - is a fantastic course. As any teacher knows, it's all in how you present the subject matter. It's not just about information presented, but about discussion, interactive learning, tailoring the material to the needs and interests of the participants, human and canine. I've done it three times with my trainer and each time found it highly worthwhile.

I am fortunate to have an outstanding trainer - her courses are not only informative and practical - but as importantly, lots of fun for both owners and their dogs.



I know that one complaint picked up in the media was of people who supposedly only became trainers once the SKN was introduced, people who had little experience beyond the certifying course. I don't know how many of those there were - certainly the trainers I know who took SKN certification had been working as professional trainers for years before, had decades of experience, regularly attended continuing education classes, etc.

I don't doubt that there were some poor trainers who ran a useless class. But that was no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater - fixing the problem trainers would have been a more sensible step.
"people who supposedly only became trainers once the SKN was introduced" Of course; the number of people needing to take courses multiplied so the number of existing trainers was totally inadequate.

Now if the mandatory courses are confirmed to be cancelled we could see a nasty price benefits/conflict due the extreme over capacity of trainers. Law of unintended consequences strikes again.

Hope it does not get like California where there is extreme competition between people giving the "driver retraining" courses. For example, you have courses giving free doughnuts or pizza, courses by people dressed as clowns, &&&.
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"people who supposedly only became trainers once the SKN was introduced" Of course; the number of people needing to take courses multiplied so the number of existing trainers was totally inadequate.
I was trying to find a polite way to describe what has been called the 'HausfrauHuSchu'. That is, the supposed phenomenon of dilletante housewives who, wanting to while away a few afternoon hours and make a bit of money, decided to become SKN trainers. I hear the term bandied about - but as above, have never met anyone fitting that description. The trainers I know are serious dedicated professionals.

If such dilletante trainers exist, then yes they will likely be out of business. As they should be.

A good Hundeschule, led by serious trainers, offers so much more than the SKN, and will continue to attract serious-minded dog owners who truly want to do the best for their dogs.

The SKN classes did serve as a good introduction to on-going training possibilities, though.

Many people who would otherwise never have even thought of training their dogs dragged their feet to the SKN only because it was required - and then lo and behold got the training 'bug' after seeing how much fun it was, after seeing the results in their dogs' behavior and more importantly in the deepening relationship between owner and dog.

Many go on from the SKN to Familienhund-like classes and various dog sports, join a Hundeverein, and continue training for years.

No, the four lessons of the SKN did not produce a fully trained dog - but the spark those four lessons lit set the dog and owner on the right road.

That opportunity to start all dogs and their owners off right is what we have lost.
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