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In Schwyz the dog tax is depending of the weight per kg.

(or so I heard...)
No, it's on horsepower in Schwyz. Ticino is the one you have to be careful with -- there, dog tax is based on emissions!

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Indeed. But if a thing has 'weight', what is that expressed in?
kg⋅m⋅s^−2, or N, since you asked...

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Gosh, I pay 200.- per dog where I live! 100.- for the cantonal tax, and 100.- for the communal one!
CHF 60 per dog per year for our Gemeinde, and no cantonal tax. Another compelling reason to live in the subtropical Paradise that is BL.
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Wearing your teacher's hat again?
"Gewicht in Kilo" is a perfectly normal term in German. (After all it could also be "Gewicht in Pfund" etc. etc. and that matters!)
The trick is to use the dictionary correctly
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Indeed. But if a thing has 'weight', what is that expressed in? Is this telling us something very profound about Schwyz...?
Never mind, folks. I made the mistake to comment on a "German" post of his yesterday which was so grammatically wrong that I honestly couldn't understand it. I guess I have the grammar police up my ass for the coming two months in return now...
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Never mind, folks. I made the mistake to comment on a "German" post of his yesterday which was so grammatically wrong that I honestly couldn't understand it. I guess I have the grammar police up my ass for the coming two months in return now...
Not consciously so. My apologies if I gave that impression.
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Never mind, folks. I made the mistake to comment on a "German" post of his yesterday which was so grammatically wrong that I honestly couldn't understand it. I guess I have the grammar police up my ass for the coming two months in return now...
To be fair, "weight per kilo" makes about as much sense as the "Ein Fall für Zwei" grammatical fail.
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To be fair, "weight per kilo" makes about as much sense as the "Ein Fall für Zwei" grammatical fail.
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Gosh, I pay 200.- per dog where I live! 100.- for the cantonal tax, and 100.- for the communal one!
70 here, and not penalty for multiple ownership. It is one of the main reasons stated by newcomers to our village- especially as they can have very large flats with gardens for a fraction of the cost- and small classes at a small school for the kids. Farmers and very isolated houses don't pay at all.

Was very surprised to find out at the Council meeting a couple of days ago, that all dog poo bags from rabbidog bins all go to the incinerator with the other rubbish.
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Was very surprised to find out at the Council meeting a couple of days ago, that all dog poo bags from rabbidog bins all go to the incinerator with the other rubbish.
Not much choice, unless you want to bury the dog poo bags and let the plastic decompose over the next 500 years! Dogs are omnivores, usually with a high percentage of meat in their diet, so their excrement is completely unsuitable as fertiliser (as an alternative means of dealing with the problem). That's the excuse given by horse-owners, by the way, to justify the huge mounds of crap (literally) that they leave all over the roads around my place -- horse dung is "good for the garden".

"Robidog", by the way... I don't like the sound of "Rab(b)idog"!
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Horse crap is totally different to dog crap - vegetarians versus meat eaters.

Thanks for reminding me - visitors have gone out for the day, so time to go horse poo pick ... for the garden. Well, never us fresh- but put in layers in my 8 large compost bin- great accelerator and enricher.
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Ticino is the one you have to be careful with -- there, dog tax is based on emissions!
Oh no, there goes my plan to retire to sunny Ticino.

(Heffalump has a serious broccoli habit... an hour after he raids the veggie bin the guys in Hazmat suits show up.)

Dogs, gotta luv 'em.
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CHF 60 per dog per year for our Gemeinde, and no cantonal tax. Another compelling reason to live in the subtropical Paradise that is BL.
ever thought about starting your own dog tax-paradise-offshoring-scheme?
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ever thought about starting your own dog tax-paradise-offshoring-scheme?
Sheer brilliance! Although I think a simple pet hotel business would produce plenty of profit. I can't believe the amounts charged to board pets for a few weeks around here... well over twice the cost in villages 10 minutes away, across the border in France or Germany.
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Re: My dog got attack by another dog

I have experience with owning multiple dogs so I just want to say that dogs that know each other, and I am assuming these dogs in the office do, usually understand the hierarchy.

Food is very often grounds for a dispute amongst dogs but in my experience there tends to be some warning barks and growling before things escalate and a bite is the result.

I suggest a dog crate for your dog to keep him safe from the other dog and to enjoy his treats. He will feel secure in a crate.

Keep a close watch on the wound for signs of infection. My understanding is that all dog bites need to be reported but given that this is your colleague's dog you may want to think twice.
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Re: My dog got attack by another dog

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Was very surprised to find out at the Council meeting a couple of days ago, that all dog poo bags from rabbidog bins all go to the incinerator with the other rubbish.
Well otherwise where would they go?
The separate collection of them is in fact pointless as it all ends up in the same place.

Here they have finally seen sense and have just replaced all of the Robidog bins with ordinary litter bins, so now everything goes into the one bin.
Of course there was already litter and refuse being dropped into the Robidog bins anyway!

The bags are also available free of charge from the town hall. We use around 350 a year.

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Well otherwise where would they go?
The separate collection of them is in fact pointless as it all ends up in the same place.

Here they have finally seen sense and have just replaced all of the Robidog bins with ordinary litter bins, so now everything goes into the one bin.
Of course there was already litter and refuse being dropped into the Robidog bins anyway!

The bags are also available free of charge from the town hall. We use around 350 a year.
In our village they do not want the poo bags put in the garbage cans as the cans are often placed near benches along the river and they don't think people should have to sit next to a can filled with dog poo.

Technically the bags are not free, as dog owners are subject to a dog tax. Here we pay chf 120 per dog per year.

I decided to look up the price of the robidog bags.
http://www.robi-ag.ch/media/robi/PDF...-AG_DE_CHF.pdf

For the basic model, a roll of 250 bags is chf 4.20 (price drops if cartons are purchased in larger quantities).

So it must be the cost of the Robidog emptying/maintenance which is costing the gemeinde and hence the need for such a tax.

Our village has the Robidog with the role of bags built in and there is always someone who pulls and tears on the bag so the next bag is stuck in the dispenser. Fortunately I can pick up a block pack of bags at the village store, free of charge.
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How´s your dog doing, OP? And have you found a solution at work?
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Fortunately I can pick up a block pack of bags at the village store.
But that's a shame as you have to pay for these.

I would be happy to give you some of ours, as the town hall has a self-service stand chock-full of them!

Alright, technically they are not free if you pay the dog tax, but they are available for anyone to take in almost unlimited quantities.
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But that's a shame as you have to pay for these.

I would be happy to give you some of ours, as the town hall has a self-service stand chock-full of them!

Alright, technically they are not free if you pay the dog tax, but they are available for anyone to take in almost unlimited quantities.
Sorry I was unclear, I edited my post, as the bags are free. I can pick up bags at the village offices too but that is further.
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Re: My dog got attack by another dog

Hey All, I observed different kind of reaction towards what happen to my dog. And its really food for thought. I can see some EF member being understanding and others giving a vivid opinion about the situation

For your news, the wounds healed fine, but one wound was a complete piercing i could make him wear a earring

I was not insinuating anything about the tax or the registration. I know for a fact as the person told me once.

I totally understand the fact that a dog is a dog and that what happened is just a reminder to all dog owners that in a confined space like at the office, managing them required time and real supervisions. It was our mistakes to let them wander around with treats. Booh on us.

Nevertheless, I'm still attached to my dog, I see him as a member of my family because I care and love him. Don't get me wrong he is not my blood, but when you care about someone like that you can have strong reaction. That's why I wanted to share it here to get feedbacks and different point of views.

We solve the issue by really making each other understand our responsibilities in this accident. But I still don't like the excuses of saying:"they are just dogs" or not even saying "sorry for what happen". Dogs can be trained, can be educated, can be supervised and controlled like you all said. A dog is not only instinct (not 100%), he can be taught. Although I bear in mind that each of them have their weaknesses. i constantly train my dog to do tricks, walk on my side, stop when required, to not pick up a stick without my approval, to not eat without making a trick which makes him happy all the times to get rewarding and pet whenever he is doing something asked.

I just feel like owners are responsible. I said out loud my mistakes but the other owner just hide behind the "they are dogs".

That dog (jack russel) has issue for 2 years now. He had been attacked by a dog then, because this jack russel wasn't registered, the owner didn't wanted to go to the authority and manage to go to the vet mentioning that it was her parents' dog on holiday. Since that incident, the dog is aggressive, and has attacked another friend's dog (boxer) (4 stitches on the forehead). But nothing is done on the owner side to work on the attitude, the psychology or maybe reassuring the dog about bigger dogs...

My opinion is that the owner could have shown some empathy, bring some apologies, and also shows the example of trying to fix her dog personal issues.

My dog has 3 little scars on his ears, which is part of life; no worries . But I've noticed that since this experience, he became more easily scared of strange loud noise such as a car door closing, or if a man passes behind him... but always, when it comes from behind... Which I thinks relates from the surprised attack he got from the other dog. Now my job is to make him forget this experience...
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But I've noticed that since this experience, he became more easily scared of strange loud noise such as a car door closing, or if a man passes behind him... but always, when it comes from behind... Which I thinks relates from the surprised attack he got from the other dog. Now my job is to make him forget this experience...
Joezoey, while some dogs bounce back from an attack without too many problems, some develop reactivity that can have life-altering consequences.

If you have even a faint whisper of a worry about how your dog is reacting, please seek qualified behavioral help asap. I cannot stress this strongly enough.

(Been there, done that, for 11 years now with Hooligan...)

And even if you don't think you need behavioral help, a 'controlled re-socialization' via some time in a fun training class could be very helpful. This is a situation where you want to be proactive.

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It's a shame that there are so many irresponsible dog owners in Switzerland. That is a sad fact of life here. We cannot change most of them, especially now that the irresponsible segment officially 'won' when the SKN was abolished because so many scofflaws refused to take the classes that the government just shrugged their collective shoulders and gave up.

On paper, Switzerland looks like an animal welfare paradise. It has (had!) some of the best animal welfare laws on the books. But the sad reality is that most of it seems to be for show, there is little enforcement - and far too many simply refuse to do the right thing. After almost 20 years here, most of it spent in rescue work, I'm pretty discouraged.

But (trying to keep positive) we should not let the irresponsibility of others impact how we view our own behavior with our dogs. It sounds like you are on the right path, keep doing what you can to instill a better, safer, more truly dog friendly culture in your office, among your fellow owners.


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