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Recommendations for grain free & poultry free dog food?

I am bringing my Shiba to Lausanne Oct 20th, and he needs grain free & poultry free dog food. From what I can read online, many of the foods don't list the ingredients very clearly. For example, one read "...meat and animal by-products (at least 4% lamb)..." The other 94% of meat could be turkey or chicken. Does anyone have any brands of grain & poultry free dog food they can recommend? My husband is already there and can purchase something for him to have when we get there (we are only moving what can fit in our suitcases). Thanks!
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Re: Recommendations for grain free & poultry free dog food?

I use Orijen (bought on amazon) or Millies Wolfheart (bought from their site). Both are grain free, and do explicit ingredients lists.

This UK site (https://www.allaboutdogfood.co.uk/th...food-directory) isn't bad at checking brands/types...
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Re: Recommendations for grain free & poultry free dog food?

We use Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream purchased from zooplus
http://www.zooplus.ch/shop/hunde/hun...he_wild/269705

You can find specific grain free (getreidefrei) on their website too.
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Re: Recommendations for grain free & poultry free dog food?

We use Fitness 3 Trainer. The Food is based around 3 main ingredients and has many combinations so it's easy to eliminate a certain ingredient


https://www.novafoods.com/trainer/en/dog/dog-food?range[]=fitness

Our girl always had a sensitive tummy before and since we started feeding this one year ago she has been much more settled.


You can buy from Qualipet or on Zooplus
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Re: Recommendations for grain free & poultry free dog food?

Options for grain-free and other premium dog foods in Switerland have grown exponentially in recent years. When I first moved here 19 years ago the selection was abysmal... nowadays you are spoiled for choice.

My crew currently eat:

Wet: Terra Canis Grain Free, comes in many meat sources, our favorites are Wild/Venison (Hooligan and Heffalump) and Rind (The Belltie)

Available at Zooplus.ch (best price), Meiko (a few additional varieties not carried elsewhere) and very limited choices at Fressnapf. Likely also available at other smaller premium stores.

Dry: Canerio by Terra Canis, Wild (Venison). (There are also chicken and beef versions) Available only at Meiko (Wild and chicken) or via the German manufacture (All three varieties.)

I love Terra Canis - developed with a team of veterinarians, human consumption quality ingredients. Does not smell like other dog foods. Not inexpensive, though. The canned is about on par with other premium canned foods, but the dry is very pricey, ca CHF 22/kg. But outstanding quality, beloved by the mutts. Not really much cheaper if ordered in Germany due to shipping and duties.

You can read about Terra Canis here:
https://www.terracanis.de
https://www.terracanis.co.uk/?SID=&_...terra_canis_uk


Other foods we feed:

Magnusson Grain Free: This is a Swedish food, KRAV certified. A very simple baked (not extruded) kibble so low fat. Now in a grain free version, beef. This was my solution for my IBD dogs. Available at Meiko.

Dry: Purizon, grain free high protein, available in many meats. I use the fish kibble as training treats, as it smells quite strong. Be careful, though, as some of the varieties also contain chicken, albeit clearly stated in the ingredients list. Available from Zooplus.ch

Wet: Hermanns Bio, Ente. These come in 130g pouches, handy for the ancient Belltie who is struggling with his appetite. The Duck version is very liquidy, for us a good thing because he laps up his food rather than chewing. Comes in many flavors and meants, some grain free, others not - but clearly labeled. I've found the pouch consistency different - more liquid - from the cans, don't know why as the ingredients are the same. Available at Fressnapf in pouches, cans also available at Zooplus.

Gina and Fritz - in glass, human quality ingredients. Pricey, but a very good food. The food is chunky, which would be a good thing for most dogs, and you know exactly what you are getting - but not the right consistency for the Belltie at this point in his life. I had to puree it for him, so not convienent in this situation.

Dry: Escapure Wild (Venison). This is very difficult to find in Switzerland, available in Germany. An excellent high protein food, dogs are crazy for it, wish I had a ready supply.

Wet: When we were going throug the elimination diet fol-de-rol with the Belltie we went onto Exclusion. Not my favorite food, nor the Belltie's, but a simply mono protein plus potato. Available in Venision, Horse, Fish, and some other flavors IIRC. Available at your vet, or at Zooplus. (I have extra cans that I no longer need; if anyone else has to go through the elimination diet merry-go-round and wants them, PM me.)


The main grain free brands, Orijen, Taste Of The Wild, Lily's Kitchen, and Arcana, are also available here. At Zooplus and many local retailers. (Again, watch for chicken or chicken fats - always clearly labeled in the ingredients list, but included in some varieties where you might not be expecting it .)

Main retail outlets:

Meiko
www.meiko.ch and several retails stores, lists on the website

Zooplus,
www.zooplus.ch and www.zooplus.de

Prices are higher on the CH website, and selection is more limited. However, when you add in delivery from Germany and duties depending on what you order I've found it pretty much comes out in the wash. I now mostly order from .ch

Fressnapf, retail outlets everywhere in Switzerland, plus online at www.fressnapf.ch and www.fressnapf.de
Fairly expensive delivery, so I usually just pop over to the local retail store. If they don't have something there but it's on the website I ask the store to order it for me, it's usually delivered to the store faster than it would be to me at home.


As above, there are so many choices now, good foods at all price ranges. You shouldn't have too much trouble finding something that suits.

I know how disruptive it can be changing foods, hope your pooch settles in well. Good luck!



ETA: If anyone has seen ZiwiPeak recently, please let me know!
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Re: Recommendations for grain free & poultry free dog food?

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From what I can read online, many of the foods don't list the ingredients very clearly.
Just a comment on this:

Good foods list the ingredients fully and clearly.

For instance, Terra Canis Venison:
Wild mit Kartoffeln, Apfel & Preiselbeeren:
Muskelfleisch vom Reh & Hirsch (59%), Karotten, Kartoffeln (6%), Zucchini, Pastinaken, Apfel (5%), Preiselbeeren (4%), Rapsöl, Schnittlauch, Blütenpollen, Seealge (0,4%), Bio-Eierschalenpulver (0,4%), Andensalz.

And Terra Canis Beef:
Rind mit Zucchini, Kürbis & Oregano:
Rindermuskelfleisch (25%), -herzen (25%), -lunge (20%), Zucchini (11%), Pastinaken, Kürbis (7%), rote Beten, Schnittlauch, Blütenpollen, Weizenkeimöl, Oregano, Petersilie, Seealge (0,4%), Bio-Eierschalenpulver(0,4%), Andensalz.

Good foods give this level of detail.

If the food does not fully list ingredients, especially wrt meat and protein sources, don't buy it! Anything generic like 'animal byproducts' or 'Tiermehl' is to be avoided like the plague.





(I remember a scandal with one of the lower grade commercial brands that labeled the food as duck protein... but it turned out the 'duck protein' came from feathers. )

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Re: Recommendations for grain free & poultry free dog food?

Awesome! Thanks so much for all the helpful info!!
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Re: Recommendations for grain free & poultry free dog food?

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I use Orijen (bought on amazon)
How do you order something on Amazon and ship it to Switzerland?
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Re: Recommendations for grain free & poultry free dog food?

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How do you order something on Amazon and ship it to Switzerland?
A while back, I found out that Amazon ship to Switzerland You just put your Swiss address in (not all items ship though).

That said, I now have a mailing address just over the border in Germany... much less hassle, and means you avoid the ludicrous diePost fees to "process" your import taxes.

Anything over 300eur or so (if memory serves) you declare at the border when coming back and pay taxes for, sans the postage processing fees.
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Re: Recommendations for grain free & poultry free dog food?

As other have said Orijen is a good choice (the ones without Chicken).

Other options if you don't want to go full BARF diet are: Acana and Wolfsblut
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