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firstly, i am a massive animal lover, last year i rescued a hedgehog, took it to the vets, got it mended, and let it go where i found it , in my garden, ,foolishly i left food out for it,(proper food) on a daily basis,un be known to me a cat was eting it, said cat then appeared at my door in winter, so i left small amount of food for it , come summer, i returned from work to find cat on my sofa, then bed, then in the bath or sink, i have asked around ,and no one seems to know whos it is, this cat now seems to think he lives here, not a problem for me. i now worry that when i go home for holidays, it will starve(it wont, as previously i left a homemade feeder to allow for 2 weeks food,and a bed ,in my porch),does anyone know, can i legally take the cat to a vet to check for an ownership chip, if no chip is found, can i put the cat in a cattery,(for holiday period) if i cant find the real owner, i really like this cat and hate the idea of it getting hungry or hurt while im away
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Old 20.12.2017, 11:15
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Re: cat that is not my cat

Please take the cat to the vet to have it's chip scanned. It may have been reported missing already.

https://www.tierdatenbank.ch/de/tiere.html

Cat's are notorious for choosing who they want to live with, and can 'move house' for many reasons. After so long, it may be the case that the cat's owner doesn't want it back.
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After so long, it may be the case that the cat's owner doesn't want it back.
Or may be frantic looking for it. The only way to find out is to take the cat to the vet and get the chip scanned and take it from there.
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Re: cat that is not my cat

And if that does not work out: you are then adopted by the cat

I hope you do find the owner though!
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Re: cat that is not my cat

The local cat shelter might be able to provide the contact details of people who will look after your cat while you are away.

If you take the cat to the vet and it isn't chipped, and you decide to keep it, please do get it chipped and sterilised.
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Re: cat that is not my cat

Congrats on being adopted.

However, for an "english fella", your grammar and punctuation are effing abysmal.
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Re: cat that is not my cat

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Congrats on being adopted.

However, for an "english fella", your grammar and punctuation are effing abysmal.

Hey, but let's be thankful that not everyone is a grammatically-correct desk jockey like so many of us.


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Hey, but let's be thankful that not everyone is a grammatically-correct desk jockey like so many of us.
No, let's not.

Some level of spelling or typing disability may be excusable in some people, but there's no excuse for such blatant disregard of any sort of writing convention.

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Hey, but let's be thankful that not everyone is a grammatically-correct desk jockey like so many of us.


I can type well, but I couldn't build a wall.
I actually think it takes more effort to type badly than to do it properly.
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Good for you - animals know how to pick the best people. But yes, get it scanned first, just in case - enjoy
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Oops double post.

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yes my gramma is awful, but i dont care,so if you have nothing better to do carry on ,i think it says more about you, than it does about my grammer
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Re: cat that is not my cat

I understand the impulse to help an animal, a very commendable outlook.


BUT

People, please understand the legal aspect of 'found' pets. If you do not follow the legal process you could theoretically be accused of theft.

When you find a pet, you must report the pet to one of the official cantonal Meldestelle. IN Zürich that is:

Meldestelle für Findeltiere des Kantons Zürich
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8090 Zürich
Kanton: Zürich
Tel.: 0848 848 244
Fax: 0848 848 245

You can also make the report online at the Tierdatenbank linked by BlueAngel above, or at https://www.stmz.ch/de/

If the animal is chipped, ask the vet to make a report to ANIS, the database where most cats are registered. If the chip is not a Swiss chip, look at the Petmaxx database. ( http://petmaxx.com Not wholly inclusive, but many European chips are registered here.)

There is a 'Wartungsfrist' of 60 days after making the official report of finding an animal before ownership of that animal can be transferred to you.

When a report is made, you can then take the animal to an Tierheim nominated by the canton as an official shelter, or you can care for the animal yourself with the agreement of the folks at the Meldestelle.

During the Wartungsfrist you may take on responsibility for the cat's welfare but you cannot take on the rights of an owner. For instance, you can provide any medical care deemed necessary by the vet, but you cannot authorize elective procedures such as castration. That must wait until ownership is transferred to you.

(Note: It's a tad more complicated with dogs, as you have to deal with the AMICUS paperwork.)

Should you choose to care for an animal during the Wartungsfrist you are responsible for any costs incurred. If an owner appears during the Frist to reclaim the animal you can ask the owner to cover your costs, but the owner is not under any legal obligation to do so as you took on the responsibility voluntarily.


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Yes. I know from other threads that many people do not know, follow, or even give two hoots about the law.

Nonetheless, a true animal lover follows the law, does what is legally required to help reunite a lost pet with it's owner, or go through the process required to allow for legal transfer of ownership. A true animal lover does this because this is what is in the animal's best interest.

Just think how you would feel if the shoe were on the other foot, if you were searching for your lost pet. Please do it right.


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ETA: From Tier Im Recht foundation, with links to the relevant law:

https://www.tierimrecht.org/de/recht...n-tier-findet/

https://www.tierimrecht.org/de/recht...ufenen-tieres/
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Definitely! Especially cats - they only pick the best of the best
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please do get it chipped and sterilised.
And register the chip!

(In Switzerland ANIS is the public register for cats.)

My vet once mentioned that when a stray cat is brought in to be scanned, often they find a chip but the chip is not registered anywhere.

Which wholly defeats the point of chipping.

The vet guesses that many cat owners don't fully understand how chipping works. Without registration the chip is pretty much useless. So please, take the extra step.
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And register the chip!

(In Switzerland ANIS is the public register for cats.)

My vet once mentioned that when a stray cat is brought in to be scanned, often they find a chip but the chip is not registered anywhere.

Which wholly defeats the point of chipping.

The vet guesses that many cat owners don't fully understand how chipping works. Without registration the chip is pretty much useless. So please, take the extra step.
The chip can only be registered with ANIS by the vet if I temember correctly so I don't understand why there are so many unregistered chips?
Surely most vets would explain the registration procedure to the owners when microchipping the cat?
I can't imagine many people would use the DIY method of micrchipping their cat and imported cats wouldn't account for that many either.

Very odd that there are so many unregistered chips.
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many thanks, i havve been to the gemeinde and a local vet ,just returned, i will now take it to have a scan, appointment made,if there is no chip, i have to register the cat as found on official site,(my wife has printed off posters of cat also ,asleep in our sink which i will put up in my area aswell),after 2 months, we can re house the cat, or keep it, no prizes for guessing what i will do, and also will get it chipped, many thanks for all information posted,no apologys for c..p spelling
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many thanks, i havve been to the gemeinde and a local vet ,just returned, i will now take it to have a scan, appointment made,if there is no chip, i have to register the cat as found on official site,(my wife has printed off posters of cat also ,asleep in our sink which i will put up in my area aswell),after 2 months, we can re house the cat, or keep it, no prizes for guessing what i will do, and also will get it chipped, many thanks for all information posted,no apologys for c..p spelling
I find it surprising that a well intentioned 'english fella' like you, while posting on englishforum, stubbornly refuses to even use spell check. Also, instead of getting upset, could you not try improving your language?
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