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Old 16.03.2018, 15:39
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Moving a dog to Zurich - my story

Hope this helps someone... who knows.

So I'm in the process of moving an Aussie to Zurich (Australian Shepherd).

So far:
1- When entering Switzerland (land border from Germany) declare him and his "value". The value was deemed low enough to warrant no taxes (we said 300-400chf. He was bought 1.5years ago for 800eur as a puppy, and has "devalued" as he's grown up. They weren't interested in any proof of value. His (German) passport was stamped with the ZOLL stamp

2- Head over to the dog control branch of the police in Zurich (right next door to where you can change your driving license), and hand over this form, duly completed:
https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/content...eanmeldung.pdf
(no payment taken, apparently I will receive an invoice). They also registered the owner on AMICUS and provided a number for the owner registration.

3- Get dog insurance

4- Register the dog with your landlord (actually this was a condition of picking my apartment over a year ago... so really this was step 0, but I've now had to email them a signed form with proof of insurance).

5- Head over to the vet with the owner registration number and register the dog to the owner (to do tomorrow- will update once that's done).

6- Register for a dog owner course (within 12 months)

So far the process isn't the worst... I've just gotten to stage 4
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Re: Moving a dog to Zurich - my story

You forgot step 7: Post a pic of your gorgeous Aussie on EF.

Glad to hear the pup is here and settling in!
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Old 17.03.2018, 15:21
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Re: Moving a dog to Zurich - my story

Pictures will follow

Vet registration was painless, she photocopied the form that the police gave us and the dogs passport and that was it.

Now trying to sort out insurance, but can't find dog liability insurance on comparis... only health insurance...
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Re: Moving a dog to Zurich - my story

Mention you have a dog to the insurers who provide your personal liability insurance and get it added to that. I do not think there is a dog only version.

With our old dog AXA paid out within 2 weeks of her urinating frank blood on the beautiful wood floor which really stained. They also reimbursed us for our missed Xmas trip to the UK and even phoned up after the holiday period to ask how she was!
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Thanks

I can't edit the original post, so here's an update:

1- When entering Switzerland (land border from Germany) declare him and his "value". The value was deemed low enough to warrant no taxes (we said 300-400chf. He was bought 1.5years ago for 800eur as a puppy, and has "devalued" as he's grown up. They weren't interested in any proof of value. His (German) passport was stamped with the ZOLL stamp

2- Head over to the dog control branch of the police in Zurich (right next door to where you can change your driving license), and hand over this form, duly completed:
https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/content...eanmeldung.pdf
(no payment taken, apparently I will receive an invoice). They also registered the owner on AMICUS and provided a number for the owner registration.

3- Get dog insurance (call liability insurance people - this is pending as the registered owner is waiting for her B-permit)

4- Register the dog with your landlord (actually this was a condition of picking my apartment over a year ago... so really this was step 0, but I've now had to email them a signed form with proof of insurance).

5- Head over to the vet with the owner registration number and register the dog to the owner. Pay 45chf.

6- Register for a dog owner course (within 12 months). This is now looking like a challenging part, as we need to do 10 lessons before he is 18months old and then 10 lessons once he's 18 months old. That said, he's almost 18months old, so doing 10 lessons before the date is a challenge. In this case, he needs to do 20 "adult" lessons it seems. (this is a Zurich only requirement apparently for dogs >15kg)
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Re: Moving a dog to Zurich - my story

Spinal, have you seen this interactive tool to determine what List 1 courses you need? Quite handy to confirm what should be done and by when:

https://codex-hund.ch/hundehalter/kurse-guide

Put in your dog's breed (or mixes), date of birth, date entered canton Zürich.
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Re: Moving a dog to Zurich - my story

Have you found a trainer to work with yet?

I just remembered what an acquaintance did when she adopted a dog at 16 months old.

The classes are split into puppy, juvenile, and adult because each approaches training in a way appropriate for the developmental needs of the dog at these three stages.

Her newly adopted dog had no training and little socialization, she was a 'teenage brain in an adult body'. She started Junghund classes, got half way through by the time the dog was 18 months old. Her trainer thought it best that given lack of early socialization the dog continue with Junghund classes rather than switch to Adult at that point.

I think, but am not sure, that either she or her trainer got some sort of dispensation from the Veterinäramt to complete Junghund past age 18 months. I think her dog finished Junghund only a couple of months late.

They then switched to the adult class later. All in all, she completed the 20 lessons in total within the one year mark after adopting her dog.

If your dog is well balanced, emotionally ready for adult courses, then doing the 20 adult classes might be the easiest way to go. Ask your trainer what he or she thinks is best for your dog.

The situation above was years ago, not long after the List 1 courses were implemented. I don't know if that is possible now - but worth an inquiry if you thought JH a better fit for your dog at this developmental stage. A good trainer would help you do the right thing for your dog while ensuring you are compliant.

If you need recommendations for a trainer, I'm sure the ZH contingent can advise.
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Spinal, have you seen this interactive tool to determine what List 1 courses you need? Quite handy to confirm what should be done and by when:

https://codex-hund.ch/hundehalter/kurse-guide

Put in your dog's breed (or mixes), date of birth, date entered canton Zürich.
Didn't see the tool before - but it's good to see we are on track with the "right" courses. Thanks

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Have you found a trainer to work with yet?

I just remembered what an acquaintance did when she adopted a dog at 16 months old.

The classes are split into puppy, juvenile, and adult because each approaches training in a way appropriate for the developmental needs of the dog at these three stages.

Her newly adopted dog had no training and little socialization, she was a 'teenage brain in an adult body'. She started Junghund classes, got half way through by the time the dog was 18 months old. Her trainer thought it best that given lack of early socialization the dog continue with Junghund classes rather than switch to Adult at that point.

I think, but am not sure, that either she or her trainer got some sort of dispensation from the Veterinäramt to complete Junghund past age 18 months. I think her dog finished Junghund only a couple of months late.

They then switched to the adult class later. All in all, she completed the 20 lessons in total within the one year mark after adopting her dog.

If your dog is well balanced, emotionally ready for adult courses, then doing the 20 adult classes might be the easiest way to go. Ask your trainer what he or she thinks is best for your dog.

The situation above was years ago, not long after the List 1 courses were implemented. I don't know if that is possible now - but worth an inquiry if you thought JH a better fit for your dog at this developmental stage. A good trainer would help you do the right thing for your dog while ensuring you are compliant.

If you need recommendations for a trainer, I'm sure the ZH contingent can advise.
He's been to school (in Germany) and is (reasonably) well behaved. He needs more socialization with (small) dogs, as he gets VERY anxious/stressed if he doesn't get to go and say hello. We're talking to a few schools, but didn't realise the vet was part of the conversation. The idea was to try to do 2 classes a week, to complete the 10 classes in a month or so...

Will give the vet a call this week and see...

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We're talking to a few schools, but didn't realise the vet was part of the conversation. The idea was to try to do 2 classes a week, to complete the 10 classes in a month or so...
Not your vet as in Tierarzt, but rather the Veterinäramt, the government department responsible for all things revolving around critters including regulating the List 1 courses.

My limited experience with the Zürich Veterinäramt is that they are quite approachable and helpful. You can write to them, explain the age situation, see what they say.

But key in all this is finding the right trainer or school - as above, a good trainer has an eye not only on checking the bureaucratic boxes but also on what is right for you and your dog.

My 5Rp: Extra classes are always valuable, especially when socialization is concerned. So I wouldn't stress too much, just take whatever you are told to do. And then perhaps consider going beyond the required courses. My guys are life long students.
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He's been to school (in Germany) and is (reasonably) well behaved.

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Did you receive a certificate for this? If you can prove that your dog has already attended classes the veterinary office might be satisfied if you do only 10 sessions.
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Did you receive a certificate for this? If you can prove that your dog has already attended classes the veterinary office might be satisfied if you do only 10 sessions.
Actually - got one better... meant to update this thread today.

Yesterday I got the bill from the dog control - and it comes with a helpful sheet on what you need to do by when.

Its got the adult dog course, 10 lessons, by April 2019 - apparently given his age he doesn't need to do the young course or the 20-lesson option!

Still looking for a school (ideally that also speaks English)...
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Still looking for a school (ideally that also speaks English)...
You need look no further than the post above yours... CherryTree is a dog trainer, and she conducts courses in English as well as in German.



BTW, some trainers will be able to accommodate an English speaker even if the course is in German, you can always ask when you find an otherwise good fit.


Hope you enjoy the course
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