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Old 28.03.2018, 14:55
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Do they still have the amazing light installation in the tunnel between the terminals?
Landing at the international terminal you don’t go on the psychedelic walkway. Just a pedestrian slog to the immigration hall. Or rather on Monday, a pedestrian slog for a few dozen meters to the already backed-up line before the immigration hall.

Achtung travelers to Ohare in the next few days: Piecing together the scant info we were given for the mess, it seems that the lines are no longer broken into citizens, green card holders, ESTA holders and then everyone else.

No, everyone from multiple flights ended up in one snaking around line, a good hour plus to get to the kiosks. Then another snaking-around line to get out of the kiosk area to get stamped out. It was only about 3/4 of the way through that second line that they split by citizen/ other. So the usual 10-15 minute breeze through was 2 hours. And then to a mess at luggage because with the delay they had to clear the carousels for the next flights. Hope they re-think this soonest.)

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Come to think of it, I am assuming an ESA rather than another type of service animal, based on the dog’s vest and a brief exchange of pleasantries while waiting to board. All the owner volunteered was ‘He is here to help me.’

And of course I would not dream of asking anything, because unlike the ‘badging’ that some folks here seem to advocate, I know it’s none of my business. If the owner requires help, for whatever reason, the owner should get that help as a matter of common humanity in a civilized society, without judgement or nosiness akin to rubbernecking.

Shame on the people taking the proverbial and misusing the ESA allowance, but shame also on those who automatically assume anyone with an ESA or other service animal is abusing the system.

Trauma, of any kind, can be debilitating, life-changing , and yes, life-threatening. There but for the grace of doG go we.
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Old 28.03.2018, 17:03
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Does a Dyslexic atheist believe in Dog?

Pycadellic walkway is a good way to describe it, I walked it five or six times. (had some time to spare between flights and even now I take a look on Youtube)
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Old 28.03.2018, 17:09
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Old 28.03.2018, 17:43
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what about a forum event where we are all on the same flight? the one that manages to get the most spectacular animal in the cabin wins.

i might try a dolphin.
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what about a forum event where we are all on the same flight? the one that manages to get the most spectacular animal in the cabin wins.

i might try a dolphin.
Wins what? An exit from the flight?
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Old 28.03.2018, 18:19
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More difficult to drag someone out when you have our ESA tiger with you ?
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Old 28.03.2018, 18:34
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More difficult to drag someone out when you have our ESA tiger with you ?
Mountain gorilla, may need the seatbelt extender though.
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Old 28.03.2018, 18:35
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What about people with severe allergies to pet hair or poultry feathers? Or people with animal phobias? Are they warned of this? What are their rights.

Totally Melon, totally- and yet- no-one has answered the above.

Me, I love all animals and have no allergies. But i do have friends who have severe allergies to the above - and phobias too- have they no right to sympathy? I imagine the airlines do not warn them beforehand or give them the choice to free change of flight or up-grade. What are they supposed to do - even if they are sympathetic to the needs of others.
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Old 28.03.2018, 20:59
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Remember the first time I caught the Sita bus from Sorrento to Amalfi. At the first stop, a guy got on and sat next to me on the back seat with a goat and 3 chickens in a coop.
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Old 28.03.2018, 21:06
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Remember the first time I caught the Sita bus from Sorrento to Amalfi. At the first stop, a guy got on and sat next to me on the back seat with a goat and 3 chickens in a coop.
Try some locals flights on Indonesia, amazing what they all carry on board
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Old 28.03.2018, 21:22
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what about a forum event where we are all on the same flight? the one that manages to get the most spectacular animal in the cabin wins.

i might try a dolphin.
My esa of choice would be: a wilderbeast, a tapir, a capybara, a manitee and a prariedog. Not all at once.
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Old 28.03.2018, 22:14
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ESA Cricket. Super low maintenance. Fits in a gourd in your pocket.
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Old 28.03.2018, 22:47
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OMG, this thread is cracking me up. I was once on a flight between Puerto Rico and Antigua with about 6 stops in between at every little island. Now, mind you, the islanders use Puerto Rico as their local Wal-Mart. It's a tiny plane and there is no such thing as checked cargo. The stuff that came on that plane was mind boggling.

Let's not even talk about the animals. There were more animals on that plane than there were people, which I think was 12 or 16. One man lugged a DISHWASHER IN ITS ORIGINAL BOX down the aisle and just parked it at the end of the aisle between the last row of seats.

Then, the pièce de résistance, a woman rolls a child's plastic 6 foot diameter kiddie pool down the aisle. She JUST STOOD THERE in the aisle for the entire 9 minute flight to her island stop holding onto this pool. I tell you, I was literally peeing myself because I was laughing so hard.

There were chickens, dishwashers, swimming pools, vaccuums, food processors and people everywhere.

So, even though I am American, I haven't lived there for a long time and I have completely missed this ESA phenomenon. But it is giving me a bit of a laugh to think of people trying to board planes with a destination of Frankfurt or Zurich with peacocks, pit bulls, goats, etc. Turks and Caicos, yes. Geneva, no.
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Old 28.03.2018, 23:16
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Allergies vs ESA: http://www.thisisinsider.com/flying-...lergies-2017-9

Looks like the peacock wins.
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Old 28.03.2018, 23:21
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Looks like the peacock wins.
From that article:

If you're traveling with a service animal: you are not required by carriers to produce documentation identifying the dog's credentials.

So basically your rights with a service animal outweigh the rights of others?

Seriously, just asking. My sister is really afraid of dogs. Sitting next to a ESA dog on a flight would make her flight traumatic (if she is not allowed to be reseated, or the person with the dog is)

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Old 28.03.2018, 23:22
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If you're traveling with a service animal: you are not required by carriers to produce documentation identifying the dog's credentials.

So basically your rights with a service animal outweigh the rights of others?

Seriously, just asking. My sister is really afraid of dogs. Sitting next to a ESA dog on a flight would make her flight traumatic (if she is not allowed to be reseated, or the person with the dog is)
She could get an esa cat for that?
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Old 28.03.2018, 23:25
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She could get an esa cat for that?
Whaha, nice one. No it was an honest question. What do airlines do when a person with an ESA dog is seated next to someone who is afraid of dogs/allergic to dogs?

Snakes would be my personal nightmare as a seat neighbour.....
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Old 28.03.2018, 23:32
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Afraid is one thing - but serious allergy linked to anaphyllactic shock?

As said, I have no allergies myself - but I do have friends who have serious allergies to animal hair and feathers. So those rules are insane - and could lead to not only discomfort, but plain and simple - death.

I've been on flights where all peanuts were banned because a person being allergic, just in case (with staff explaining on tannoy).
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Old 28.03.2018, 23:48
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Afraid is one thing - but serious allergy linked to anaphyllactic shock?

As said, I have no allergies myself - but I do have friends who have serious allergies to animal hair and feathers. So those rules are insane - and could lead to not only discomfort, but plain and simple - death.

I've been on flights where all peanuts were banned because a person being allergic, just in case (with staff explaining on tannoy).
From the article Dougal's Breakfast posted, it seems that an airline can simply roll the responsibility onto the allergic passenger's doctor. If the doctor certifies something that seems to me to be quite absurd and impossible for someone with a genuine allergy, well then everyone can be fine and dandy together on the flight.
A Southwest Airlines told INSIDER: "If a customer states that their allergy can be life threatening, we require a medical certificate from the customer's physician that is dated within ten days of the scheduled date of the customer's initial departing flight. The medical certificate must state that the customer is capable of completing the flight safely, without requiring extraordinary medical assistance during the flight even if there is animal dander in the aircraft cabin."
(my added italics)

This translates into: "If you have a service animal, you are entitled to take it with you on any flight. If you have an ESA, you probably are, too, perhaps with some documentation. If you have an allergy against anything from animals, don't bother flying. If you do fly, and if you do die because an animal was near you, that's not our problem."
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Madness - no?
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