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Darf ich ihn bitte streicheln?

Hi all animal lovers!

Just felt like sharing how I absolutely love how children here always politely ask first if they can pet my dog instead of just going for it In the 6+ years of living here, I have really not had ONE child doing so without asking, and it must be a thing that parents teach their kids well. (on the contrary, adults do, without asking but it's never been an issue) I've lived in a few other countries with my dogs where this was not the case...

My last dog who sadly passed away last summer was not the best with small children. (actually he was great with kids, until one day, a child really messed with him and since that day, my dog really disliked young children.) Every time a child asked I felt bad having to say that my dog was "a little tired" or "a bit shy" and disappoint them, but better than stressing my dog and the child being snapped at.

We welcomed a new dog again and he is a social butterfly and loves every living being, and gives everyone he meets all the love he has. The delight on the child's face when they interact with my dog after asking me first - is priceless and I love it
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Old 18.09.2018, 16:42
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Re: Darf ich ihn bitte streicheln?

I grew up with dogs but haven't had one since moving here. The other week I was on the tram and this gigantic fluffy beast decided to tuck his huge head under my leg, presumably because the tram was super busy and my leg was the nearest thing he could tuck into. His owner kept trying to pull him away but I stopped her. There's nothing better than doggie snuggles, even if it's not your own.
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Yep. We taught Little Rufus to do the same because some doggies have "headaches". Plus it's only polite.

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Don't forget to be specific and don't ask "does your dog bite?"
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Re: Darf ich ihn bitte streicheln?

It's also a friendly way to get the owner on alert, and it ensures the dog isn't taken by surprise so won't snap purely out of reflex.
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Re: Darf ich ihn bitte streicheln?

Reminds me of a cat we met somewhere in the mountains above Ardez.

We later learn that this cat is pretty well know locally and that she does this all the time.

Anway, while we (that is the OH and i) were sitting on some rocks having our picnic during a hike, the cat came up to us to be stroked and made a fuss of.

And yes, to beg for a bit of food.

We assumed she must have belonged to a nearby farmhouse.

When we left, she started follwoing us. We pretended not to notice, hoping she would lose interest.

Anyway, she must have followed us for the best part of an hour and we were getting higher and higher into the mountains and we deiced she might well be lost.

So we decided to do an about turn. I took the cat on my arm and we walked all the way back to the farmhouse where we had first made her acquiantance.

The lady who opened the door said thanks, but not to worry, he cat was known to follow people much further afield but always found the way home.

The funny bit was a little before that that a party with a schoolteacher and lots of kids was coming the other way. One of them shouted, "look, that man is taking his cat on a hike". The kids asked me politely if they could stroke my cat. So I had to pretend it ws my cat and said they could if the cat agreed. It turned out the car wasn't particularly interest in them. When i put her down she hid behind some rocks until they went away.
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I grew up with dogs but haven't had one since moving here. The other week I was on the tram and this gigantic fluffy beast decided to tuck his huge head under my leg, presumably because the tram was super busy and my leg was the nearest thing he could tuck into. His owner kept trying to pull him away but I stopped her. There's nothing better than doggie snuggles, even if it's not your own.
The gigantic fluffy beasts are the kindest. There's a farm near my house and they have a cutie who's always there, always all behaved and rather sociable. The only dog who tried to bite me (and succeeded with OH) was a Chihuahua... it took him a while to consider us part of the family (he's my friend's dog and had to put up with us I guess) It makes me chuckle thinking how furious our little friend is, compared to the big and imperturbable one.
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Don't forget to be specific and don't ask "does your dog bite?"
*Dog chews arm off*
-I thought you said your dog didn’t bite!!
-That’s not my dog.


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The gigantic fluffy beasts are the kindest. There's a farm near my house and they have a cutie who's always there, always all behaved and rather sociable. The only dog who tried to bite me (and succeeded with OH) was a Chihuahua... it took him a while to consider us part of the family (he's my friend's dog and had to put up with us I guess) It makes me chuckle thinking how furious our little friend is, compared to the big and imperturbable one.
"Gigantic fluffy beasts" makes me think of Maine coon cats...I want one, they look rad. I don't know how to figure cats out, nor do we stay put too much to keep an animal. But they are the weirdest and the coolest.
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Old 18.09.2018, 19:49
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"Gigantic fluffy beasts" makes me think of Maine coon cats...I want one, they look rad. I don't know how to figure cats out, nor do we stay put too much to keep an animal. But they are the weirdest and the coolest.
My mum has a Maine Coon. Awesome cat - totally chill personality, loves cuddles, and likes to ham it up for the camera.

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Old 18.09.2018, 21:51
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His owner kept trying to pull him away but I stopped her. There's nothing better than doggie snuggles, even if it's not your own.
I agree! The other day there was a lady with a 5 months old lab that kept wanting to sniff me and the owner was pulling him back too. Told her not to worry as I have a dog too and she was relieved saying not everyone like dogs, which is true.

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Yep. We taught Little Rufus to do the same because some doggies have "headaches". Plus it's only polite.

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The gigantic fluffy beasts are the kindest. There's a farm near my house and they have a cutie who's always there, always all behaved and rather sociable. The only dog who tried to bite me (and succeeded with OH) was a Chihuahua... it took him a while to consider us part of the family (he's my friend's dog and had to put up with us I guess) It makes me chuckle thinking how furious our little friend is, compared to the big and imperturbable one.
Too funny you mention this as I have had 2 dachshunds and 3 chihuahuas so far and they have all been incredibly well tempered, not yappy at all, great with other dogs and and gentle with kids too, with the exception of my last one but it started for a reason.
I think it all depends on how much you properly socialize them when young. I was never particularly a chihuahua fan - always wanted a doberman or great dane (look how close I got ) but with my many moves and housing situation, it was simply not possible.... But after the first chihuahua...I fell in love. Never a handbag-dog! Mine have always jogged and hiked proper distances

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My mum has a Maine Coon. Awesome cat - totally chill personality, loves cuddles, and likes to ham it up for the camera.

Back to OP - I'm happy your new addition loves people and that people love him
Thanks! The other day a little girl wanted to sit next to me in the bus to pet him. Asked her if she wanted to hold him and she nodded yes. She was beaming while my chi was content being held by her. So cute!

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My daughter was very nervous about dogs, bordering on being scared, so I would often ask if I could stroke strangers dogs to show her not to fear, but to respect their space and boundaries. Slowly, slowly she got over her fear, and now will ask me to ask strangers if she can stroke their dogs, and doesn’t get upset if the answer is no. She wants a dog herself now. But two cats, 3rd floor apt, and time.... not going to happen.
They also brought three dogs into KG once, to show kids how to interact with them and how to respect their space and boundaries. This is when she was still fearful and it did wonders. She would point out different dog body language to me and remark on things like ‘don’t stare at their eyes, it makes them nervous’ etc. I like that they did that and hope that they do it in all KGs, it’s an important lesson for kids to have.
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These stories make my heart happy. I love to hear of children learning to love dogs and dogs learning to love children.

Unfortunately the 'always ask first' campaign hasn't been as successful out our way. I often have to run interference, stopping, even blocking, small children from running up and grabbing the dogs. This after the parents have blithely sent the child my way, without thinking let alone asking. "Go see the nice doggie, dear" are words that strike fear in my heart.

The problem is that I have 'Lassies'. Unfortunately thanks to those damned TV show and movies the popular perception of rough collies runs pretty far off the mark. People see my four-footed haystacks, assume the film star's perfection, and get all giggly and grabby. I love the breed, but 'Lassie' many of them are not, not by a long shot. Especially mine, who due to some pretty horrific baggage from their former lives have more than a few screws loose.

My set-in-concrete rule is no contact with children I do not know well, and then only when the parents are present, in agreement, and supervising that the child is following my instructions. So yes, I am that grumpy lady who turns and walks the dogs the other way when I spy oncoming children under the age of reason. It's just safer.

I hope that one day I'll see more children asking 'darf ich ihn bitte streicheln'.

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Our trainer invites a school class to our Hundeschule every year, a chance for children to learn more about dogs, interact with them via a structured program, learn about how to behave around them. It's a great day for the kids, the dogs, and the owners.
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Old 18.09.2018, 23:47
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I absolutely loved reading this thread: to all, Thank you.
We love dogs and cats, but unfortunately our circumstances do not allow to keep one.
I often forget, ahem, human names, but for some reason, pet names I remember and normally refer to things as 'oh, remember Tessa's house?' /as in, a bulldog called Tessa lived there/. Or, we are on the balcony and i hear a yap: oh, that must be Cara, as in, Cara mia, taking a walk.

Anyway, our take on the touching is: even we really want to pat a dog, we simply smile to him/her and the owner. I imagine a lot of people want to pat them, but I a dog has usually a goal to achieve during a walk /number 1 and/or 2/. If a dog comes to sniff or dives into the 'downstairs region', then we pat and talk to him/her.

Different story with cats: cats know if they don't like extra attention: i have been punched by a 6-finger cat in a shop in Hastings, a cat lounging in a flower pot in Bern and a farm cat in Baar - they do actively tell you when to stop.
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Too funny you mention this as I have had 2 dachshunds and 3 chihuahuas so far and they have all been incredibly well tempered, not yappy at all, great with other dogs and and gentle with kids too, with the exception of my last one but it started for a reason.
I think it all depends on how much you properly socialize them when young. I was never particularly a chihuahua fan - always wanted a doberman or great dane (look how close I got ) but with my many moves and housing situation, it was simply not possible.... But after the first chihuahua...I fell in love. Never a handbag-dog! Mine have always jogged and hiked proper distances
Indeed, my friend took him when he was already one year old and he was never properly trained before. It was a complicated situation, but in time I learned he is a very affectionate little dog who's fiercely trying to "protect" the family...well, he usually doesn't assess the situations correctly though. :-) We're very good friends now, my friend is his "mom" and I'm his "aunt".... (but I swear, we're normal people :ROFL: )
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What a lovely thread - with a HORRIBLE (incomprehensible) title.
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Re: Darf ich ihn bitte streicheln?

I love reading these types of threads I just asked my daughter (12) if she always asks before she strokes a dog, and she said - "of course I do!!" as if I was insulting her that she wouldn't!

She is so desperate for a dog and she is one of those kids that will stop in the street and just stare and admire any dog, she also fires a gazzilion questions at the owner about their dogs
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She is so desperate for a dog and she is one of those kids that will stop in the street and just stare and admire any dog, she also fires a gazzilion questions at the owner about their dogs
Mine loves all the dogs, cats, insects and pretty much everything that is moving...Now, I'll never agree with pet iguanas, snakes and pet rats...but I seriously consider having a dog. Sometimes.
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My daughter was very nervous about dogs, bordering on being scared, so I would often ask if I could stroke strangers dogs to show her not to fear, but to respect their space and boundaries. Slowly, slowly she got over her fear, and now will ask me to ask strangers if she can stroke their dogs, and doesn’t get upset if the answer is no.
The other day, a family passed by us and a little girl screamed and almost fell off her little bike seeing our chihuahua. The mom picked up her daughter a bit annoyed saying "oh come on, it's just a little dog!" But her reaction was more than scared, like she had a serious fear/phobia. The dad told us she was indeed extremely afraid. So we picked our dog up to let them pass. Later on, we wondered if we should've offered the parents to touch our chi, as our little one would probably be the best practice as he is so tiny AND extremely gentle... but when we saw the girl's reaction, we also felt bad for her and thought it'd be best we walked ahead asap!


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I often have to run interference, stopping, even blocking, small children from running up and grabbing the dogs. This after the parents have blithely sent the child my way, without thinking let alone asking. "Go see the nice doggie, dear" are words that strike fear in my heart.
THIS is exactly what had happened to my last chihuahua. We had been on a very long walk, he was hot and tired (lived in Singapore then) and we were taking a break at a cafe. Little (expat) girl spots him and immediately grabs his head and quite roughly tries to pet him. My dog was not pleased but he kept his cool. I told the girl my dog was tired and needed to rest so to maybe not touch him but she would not listen - so I looked over at her mom - who simply was lovingly staring at her angel daughter messing with a little dog. The mom would not help, so I gently tried to keep the girl's hand away but then she grabbed him by the ear and my dog jumped up and growled (did NOT bite her). That moment the girl's mom jumped up from her chair to "save" her little angel, giving me the glare. But since that incident, my dog - who was wonderful with kids any age - decided he does NOT like small children. (unless he gets to know them over time and not feel threatened) So I can really relate to your experiences...

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well, he usually doesn't assess the situations correctly though. :-)
This had me laughing! Mine doesn't either. Sometimes we pass by big, rather aggressive dogs (yes, not all big ones are gentle ) that look like they want mine for breakfast, but even so, my chi pulls on his leash, fully wagging his tail wanting to say HI! Not a good idea....

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Mine loves all the dogs, cats, insects and pretty much everything that is moving...Now, I'll never agree with pet iguanas, snakes and pet rats...but I seriously consider having a dog. Sometimes.
My parents would not get me a dog, no matter how often I asked when I was little. Until one day my mother saw me in the front garden, with a leash around my neck and I was trying to walk myself... That shocked her and broke her heart. Then we had a talk. Would I REALLY take care of it? Would I feed it and take it out for walks?? I was 9, and I said YES, and I've always kept my promise. I personally think it's wonderful for children to grow up with animals.
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I used to look after a Shiba Inu. They're highly intelligent, and very aloof. A few times when we were out Hachi alerted me that someone was about to try and pet her by growling. Once, a woman who had moved to touch the omnipotent ruler's head but stopped when she heard a low warning growl asked me if Hachi was afraid of people. I said "Afraid, she doesn't know the meaning of the word, but she knows she's not allowed to bite, so I would be forced to punch you."
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