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Public transport is excellent in CH, and in some places in France might work. Can you take him to the vet by bus or train for a while to give a break and try to disassociate? Maybe not the fix that you are looking for, but maybe could help.

Yes, Swiss transport is great and I wish that I could but I am quite remote. I would need to walk 30 minutes down the mountain, get the boat to Luzern (or 2 buses), then a train and then another long walk to the Vet. I've also looked at getting the train to France but it would mean 5 hours on the train and an hour on the bus!
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It's either this or hire a limo and driver so I can sit in the back with him.
Having someone sit next to our dog who was stressed in the car wasn't really helpful. Is your dog in a travel cage? For our dog the less enclosed she was in the car the better.

A lot of owners with very large dogs just have the dog in the back of the car without a cage.
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Re: Relaxopet - Anyone used this

Have just ordered one from meiko.ch! Hoping it helps my border collie mix in during thunderstorms and fireworks. fingers crossed!
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Having someone sit next to our dog who was stressed in the car wasn't really helpful. Is your dog in a travel cage? For our dog the less enclosed she was in the car the better.

A lot of owners with very large dogs just have the dog in the back of the car without a cage.

It helps him if I sit next to him in the back and he'll lay there with his head on my lap but that only happens when my son visits and can drive so it isn't really a great solution. (We did travel with him like that all the way from UK but he was a lot smaller then)
He doesn't go in a crate and was only ever in one for about a week when he was little and it panicked him too much.

He used to just have the back seat to lie on (hooked in to a harness for safety) but now I have one of the back seats folded down so that he is lying facing forward. (still hooked in) The new car also has a glass roof (with a screen that comes across) so he doesn't feel so enclosed. I've also tried to make it as comfortable for him as possible with an old quilt for him to lie on and a couple of his cuddly toys.

Waiting for the Relaxopet to arrive!
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Re: Relaxopet - Anyone used this

Mr Dog, have you ever tried your pup in a different car?

If not, I wonder if another car, something quite different from yours, would help to change the stress connection.

For example:

When she first came to us, ca 1 year old, Hooligan got stressy and vomited every single car trip.*

Then one day when my Smart was in for servicing I had to use OH's Volvo. Not a whimper, not a whine, no upchucking. She traveled like a pro.

Next trip, Smart back in service, the whining and vomiting returned.

Was it emotional, did she associate the Smart with some unpleasant things, like going to the vet to be poked and prodded? Or was it physical, as in the Smart rode bumpy where the Volvo rode smoothly? Or was she just a lady of more upscale tastes?

Anyway if you haven't already tried this, it might be an interesting exercise to see how your pup reacts to a different car. If you don't have a friend's to borrow, perhaps rent one for a day.

If you don't mind, I'll survey our Hundeschule group later in the week, see if anyone there has any additional ideas as to things you might try.




*What eventually cured Hooligan of Smart-vomiting: She got hold of something she should not have eaten, can't even remember what now (There were so many incidents, she was an accomplished thief as a youngster.) and I knew I needed her to vomit if possible. Since she had vomited every other Smart journey, I drove that car the 45 minutes to the emergency vet, knowing this the most likely way to induce.

And yep, you guessed it - the one time I needed her to vomit she did not. And she never vomited in the Smart thereafter.

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Mr Dog, have you ever tried your pup in a different car?

If not, I wonder if another car, something quite different from yours, would help to change the stress connection.

For example:

When she first came to us, ca 1 year old, Hooligan got stressy and vomited every single car trip.*

Then one day when my Smart was in for servicing I had to use OH's Volvo. Not a whimper, not a whine, no upchucking. She traveled like a pro.

Next trip, Smart back in service, the whining and vomiting returned.

Was it emotional, did she associate the Smart with some unpleasant things, like going to the vet to be poked and prodded? Or was it physical, as in the Smart rode bumpy where the Volvo rode smoothly? Or was she just a lady of more upscale tastes?

Anyway if you haven't already tried this, it might be an interesting exercise to see how your pup reacts to a different car. If you don't have a friend's to borrow, perhaps rent one for a day.

If you don't mind, I'll survey our Hundeschule group later in the week, see if anyone there has any additional ideas as to things you might try.




*What eventually cured Hooligan of Smart-vomiting: She got hold of something she should not have eaten, can't even remember what now (There were so many incidents, she was an accomplished thief as a youngster.) and I knew I needed her to vomit if possible. Since she had vomited every other Smart journey, I drove that car the 45 minutes to the emergency vet, knowing this the most likely way to induce.

And yep, you guessed it - the one time I needed her to vomit she did not. And she never vomited in the Smart thereafter.

Dogs - gotta luv 'em.

Excellent idea of renting another car for a day, thank you for that. I did change cars back in August to something with more room for a big dog as he was outgrowing my little Peugeot 208. He threw up in the old car a fair few times at the beginning but then got a lot better and only threw up when we dropped my son back at the airport or train station or if we got stuck in long traffic jams! We went out pretty much every day for about 4 months in that car.

He actually got really ill only a couple of weeks after I got the new car, so it is possible that he associates this particular car with the vet! You never know how a dog's brain really works so something I can certainly try.

Unfortunately, Axel is far too big for me to pick him up and put him in the car, although I have tried that. I got to the desperation stage of lifting him up but he wiggled too much for me to get him inside.

I have also tried (trainer recommendation) to feed him some of his meals in the car to get him more relaxed in it. Problem is that he would certainly throw up if I let him eat and then drive. Getting him to jump in is often possible but not reliable and shutting the door is a completely different story. I can sometimes gets him to lie down in the car facing me and I feed him treats standing outside but he always has his paws hanging out the door so I cannot shut it. Getting him in at home is one thing but I am sure he thinks I have fooled him into it, so he won't get back in again after I stop and let him out somewhere for a walk. He just sits down facing away from the car, with a look that says you're not tricking me again, not happening!


My son is over next week and he now gets in the car when he is there because he doesn't want my son to leave him. When he first got the car aversion he wouldn't even do that - we couldn't even get him anywhere near the car and he would refuse to even come outside if he spotted me pick up car keys. So there has been major improvement but we now seem to be stuck where we are.
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The collie, high strung, tending to barkiness, a few fries short of a happy meal- in other words, a typical rough collie - does seem to relax a bit with the sound version on.
Best definition of a rough collie I've ever seen. Gave me the Laugh Of The Week. Thanks!

Our little bundle, now 20 months old, is still quite a handful to handle. Very eager to learn but equally clever at learning how to train his so-called Mama (asking her time and again what she thinks the mama of a dog is called hasn't helped yet). And the funniest things is, she doesn't even realize that she's being trained. Big time.

He introduced himself to our family by throwing up all over the car interior after just a few miles. Meanwhile, that's not an issue any more. He's even become a great boat dog. Put on his CFD (Canine Floating Device), and he'll calm down immediately, kind of a Thunder Vest effect. No throwing up even in four-foot waves at 25 knots.
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kind of a Thunder Vest effect.
Good point CG!

Mr Dog, if you have not yet tried a Thundershirt, this is something else you might consider. Perhaps used in conjunction with your other calming techniques. Here's a thread discussing the Thundershirt:

https://www.englishforum.ch/pet-corn...hirt-dogs.html





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(asking her time and again what she thinks the mama of a dog is called hasn't helped yet).
I once thought She Who Must Be Obeyed would be my 'dog mama' name. The mutts clearly had other ideas, and trained me accordingly.
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I gave it a try in our open plan office, but it seems to have no recognizable impact on my coworkers...
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Re: Relaxopet - Anyone used this

Thank you everyone for your responses which are much appreciated. I managed to get him to sit in the back of the car with me for about half an hour, quietly playing with him and giving him some of his food to try to relax him. He is a smart boy though and he knows that if I'm in the back the car doesn't move but still a start.


The Relaxopet has arrived. When I first turned it on he really pricked his ears, had a good sniff of it while wagging his tail. He then sat next to it and howled! He is now lying in his bed and seems like he is listening to it. Time will tell whether it soothes him or not. I may need to turn it to silent mode!
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Good point CG!

Mr Dog, if you have not yet tried a Thundershirt, this is something else you might consider. Perhaps used in conjunction with your other calming techniques. Here's a thread discussing the Thundershirt:

https://www.englishforum.ch/pet-corn...hirt-dogs.html


I once thought She Who Must Be Obeyed would be my 'dog mama' name. The mutts clearly had other ideas, and trained me accordingly.
I just sold one of our thundershirts to someone who has a dog who is very nervous in the car. She said she has tried everything. I also suggested using a dog ramp and putting treats on it to distract the dog. That worked for us too.
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