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Rental contract question

Hey all,



Firstly, I'd like to thank everyone who welcomed me in my introduction thread and gave me exellent advice. Much appreciated.



Now, onto business...... I have now succesfully moved to Zurich and manage to convince someone to rent a property to me, my girlfriend, and our dog (Huzzah!). The company sent the contract along, and after translating and reading, I noticed a couple of clauses relating to the dog which I queried with the agent and managed to clear up. After signing and posting the contract back I recieved another email saying that an additional agreement regarding the dog has been drawn up and will be sent via post for me to sign. Now, I'm not opposed to signing another agreement provided it is sensible, but I am a bit nervous about the fact it was sent after the original contract. Should I be? Is there any chance that they could request something absurd, or for extra money etc? I don't want to end up in a position where I've already signed a rental contract, but then have the house rendered unsuitable for our needs due to restrictive stipulations in this additional agreement.



The rental company have been very professional and polite, and have said multiple times that the place is dog friendly, so I am not overly worried. Has anyone else dealt with an additional agreement and could advise on the sort of thing it might entail? Obviously things will be clearer once the document arrives, but if one of the resident experts here feels there is cause for alarm I may be able to set something in motion now to ease the situation.



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Re: Rental contract question

Don't worry yet, it is likely to be something basic like a mutual acknowledgement about the dog and some default rules like no barking in the night, clean up shit if on the premise. And that if you want another dog you'd have to ask again.
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Re: Rental contract question

Fear not, it is nothing bad!!


It is an appendix to the regular rental contract!

I only found this German one, and can't find the english one I once translated.... sorry

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...QLRtJz-Qunnyzx

It just states a few details in regarding to you being a dog owner in the building
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Re: Rental contract question

We also had to sign an additional agreement for our cat. It was more like a formal approval and clarification about liability in case the pet damages the apartment.

Not sure about barking as our cat doesn't do that
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Re: Rental contract question

Yep, as the others said, it's quite normal. They should really have sent it with the main contract, but it's normally fairly standard. Come back to us if there's anything in it that you don't recall agreeing with or seems odd
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Re: Rental contract question

Most likely they want sight of an insurance policy to cover any damage caused by the dog. We insist on it though it's usually written into the contract.
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Re: Rental contract question

Thanks everyone! It's put my mind at ease. They do seem like genuine people so I'll be optimistic. I'm planning on arming myself up to the teeth with insurance before the dog arrives and I'm happy to show this to the landlord if requested.
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Re: Rental contract question

Yes, Privathaftpflicht is absolutely critical, and legal insurance is a jolly good idea. Another good idea is to join the Mieterverband (tenants' association) as they give free advice and will help if you have a dispute with your landlord
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Re: Rental contract question

Sometimes the owner / landlord wants a separate agreement for the keeping of pets. It is more specific than the basic rental contract.

Usually both documents are prepared at the same time. Perhaps they didn't have the forms or forgot.

It isn't cause for panic. Not yet, but do read through it carefully.
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Re: Rental contract question

Hey all,



Thanks agian for the help and reassurance. I have now received the additional contract and there is one clause which I am having some problems interpreting.



"Sowohl im Haus als auch auf dem dazugehörenden Grundstück dürfen sich keine Haustiere unbeaufsichtigt aufhalten. Das gleiche gilt für die nähere Umgebung, wenn sich in diesem Einzugsbereich Kinderspielplätze, private Gärten, öffentliche Ruheanlagen und Schulhäuser befinden"


My understanding is that this is saying that I can never leave the dog unattended whilst both in the house and in the communal areas? I can understand the communal areas, but in the apartment itself? Obviously we always aim to minimise any time she is alone, but it seems unreasonable that she has to be supervised at all times. Am I just interpreting this wrong? The agent has said that it isn't a problem (though did say any barking etc would cause problems with other people in the building, which is fair), but I am keen to know what is in writing before I sign.


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Re: Rental contract question

"Haus" in this context means the building in which the apartment is situated (otherwise they'd have used the word "Wohnung"). In other words, your dog can't be left unattended in the communal areas of the building, the plot on which the building is situated or in the immediate vicinity if it contains children's playgrounds, private gardens, public quiet spaces or schools. Sounds like a boilerplate contract.
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Re: Rental contract question

What eng_ch said, is absolutely correct.


Just a friendly advice from a former landlady, it is also recommendable to keep your doglet on leash in the communal stairwell and around the house.

Also to take your dog with you downstairs to the communal laundry/drying rooms is frowned upon.

Before I get groans, we had two different tenants in our appt. block who did that, one of them had a big, smelly and very hairy dog.
I was not best pleased when fetching my dried laundry and find dirt stains and hairs from that dog on it
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What eng_ch said, is absolutely correct.


Just a friendly advice from a former landlady, it is also recommendable to keep your doglet on leash in the communal stairwell and around the house.

Also to take your dog with you downstairs to the communal laundry/drying rooms is frowned upon.

Before I get groans, we had two different tenants in our appt. block who did that, one of them had a big, smelly and very hairy dog.
I was not best pleased when fetching my dried laundry and find dirt stains and hairs from that dog on it
I would just like to add if there is a lift, if your wet dog after a walk in the rain decides to shake in the lift be prepared to wipe it down. Of course if there are other dogs in the building then there is just more mess. I would keep a towel outside (you can put it in the large part of your mailbox) to dry your dog off before you enter the building.
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