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3 months ago my mastiff died from old age. For the 10 years, he has been a family member and a friend. 2 months ago I got a 4 months old puppy, who has been trained to be a fighting dog, but thanks to the good people he had been saved and end up with me. he wasn't house trained, underweight stinks like hell and very aggressive. But he is very intelligent. For the 2 months, it has been hard work. With the help of my friends, the neighbor who has 4 dogs, we manage to rewrite his "program" and turn from aggressiveness to happiness. He loves people, children, playing with my daughter, her friends, and other dogs, anyone can pet him, or take the food from his mouth. He is a normal puppy now, family pet and lap dog. Easy trainable, coat white and very short, easy to wash, excellent health, negative sides, he is stubborn, fearless and fussy with food. He is 6 months now, 70cm high at the shoulder, weighing 40kg. The breed is Bully kutta or Indian mastiff. also known as the Beast from the east. So his name is Mr. Beast.
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Well done for for taking him on. 10 years ago I took on a Rescue Rottie (he died last year). He really was the sweetest, funniest and most gentle dog you could meet. And it was so satisfying to rescue him and give him a safe home.

Hope you have some pics of Mr Beast to share!
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And here's a video of Dylan (with the cropped tail, he was smuggled from France like that) teaching our other Rotti Kyra (also no longer here) how to use intelligence to get a log out of the river

I really miss having a dog!

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Kudos on stepping up to save this pup, and even more kudos for committing to his rehab program. It's a road that might not always be easy, but boy is it rewarding.

Thank doG for good-hearted people like you, Lorvig.

Here's to continued success, exciting adventures, and much happiness to come!

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Grumpygrapefruit, I am so sorry to hear about your pups. I so enjoyed your posts about Dylan - his story was inspirational. And Kyra too - such a lovely girl. My condolences.
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Re: Mr Beast

Thank you for your support. A lot of people do not understand and keep saying the bully kutta is a dangerous breed. I don't believe in the existence of dangerous breeds. The puppy came covered in bite marks they have to fight for the food and 2 of them died in the fighting.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/x3wKonsR7uUJFJ4g6
That how he was.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KLQp44NFzPmTmUg1A
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What a lovely BIG baby!
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Thank you for your support. A lot of people do not understand and keep saying the bully kutta is a dangerous breed. I don't believe in the existence of dangerous breeds. The puppy came covered in bite marks they have to fight for the food and 2 of them died in the fighting.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/x3wKonsR7uUJFJ4g6
That how he was.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KLQp44NFzPmTmUg1A
1 week later
https://photos.app.goo.gl/JmRAJj7u9Ln9xCdZ6
and now.
Well I believe in dangerous breeds and no matter how much you wish it were not so, or remove the fuse by way of training and conditioning, the explosives are still right there in the core ready to blow. You may get lucky and the dog will be a good dog for the rest of it´s life, but I personally would not trust such a dog around my kids or society in general.
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Re: Mr Beast

The whole problem with BSL is the false equivalency drawn between physical size or phenotype and behavior. Bad science, bad law. The unwanted behavior is most often the result of abusive training - which means, to use your phrase, there are no inate explosives. When evil humans train in behavior, better humans can indeed train it out.

Lorvig's pup came to him at 4 months old - well early enough to 'reprogram' response to the abuse the poor pup experienced.

There are many, many examples of dedicated owners who have successfully rehabilitated dogs who were abusively trained. Sure, the average owner might not be up to the task - and so should not take it on - and sure, common sense management needs to be ongoing. But it sounds like Lorvig is experienced with the molosser breeds and certainly is committed to doing all that is necessary, now and ongoing, to help this pup.

It warms my heart so to hear of people like Lorvig, people who are willing step in to stop the abuse. This pup will have a happy, healthy life now - something we all can celebrate. And Lorvig and Mr Beast can be ambassadors for the breed, hopefully winning a few hearts and minds along the way.

I tip my hat to you, Lorvig - and wish you and Mr Beast all the very best.
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And here's a video of Dylan (with the cropped tail, he was smuggled from France like that) teaching our other Rotti Kyra (also no longer here) how to use intelligence to get a log out of the river

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Sorry to hear they passed, what a fantastic life you gave them!
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The whole problem with BSL is the false equivalency drawn between physical size or phenotype and behavior. Bad science, bad law. The unwanted behavior is most often the result of abusive training - which means, to use your phrase, there are no inate explosives. When evil humans train in behavior, better humans can indeed train it out.

Lorvig's pup came to him at 4 months old - well early enough to 'reprogram' response to the abuse the poor pup experienced.

There are many, many examples of dedicated owners who have successfully rehabilitated dogs who were abusively trained. Sure, the average owner might not be up to the task - and so should not take it on - and sure, common sense management needs to be ongoing. But it sounds like Lorvig is experienced with the molosser breeds and certainly is committed to doing all that is necessary, now and ongoing, to help this pup.

It warms my heart so to hear of people like Lorvig, people who are willing step in to stop the abuse. This pup will have a happy, healthy life now - something we all can celebrate. And Lorvig and Mr Beast can be ambassadors for the breed, hopefully winning a few hearts and minds along the way.

I tip my hat to you, Lorvig - and wish you and Mr Beast all the very best.
It´s not about how the dog looks or about it´s size. I think for instance that chihuahua´s are downright evil, although some lovers find their impotent rage cute as they bark and snap at everything they don´t understand, which would be almost everything, imagine the carnage if they were the size of a mastiff.
Don´t get me wrong; hurra for the OP and the new pup and I do hope it works out, but blindly trust a dog like that with the life of my children?
Nope!

In my opinion it´s all about race, with your logic Paris Hilton´s handbag yipper-snapper has the same intelligence and traits as a border collie and this is clearly not so.

Have to add, did you ever watch White Dog? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Dog
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Re: Mr Beast

Slammer, I understand you. but your opinion based on the lack of knowledge or experience with this type of dog. To have a dog the size of a donkey, strength of a bull, with teeth making crocodile jealous not for everybody. For me My dog is the junior member of my pack, my baby, as a pack leader, I have the responsibility to teach him how to be a human, he teaching me how to be a bully kutta. I fill connected to him I understand him and in return, he gives me a lot of love, shares his energy, makes me fill better.
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I applaud Lorvig for saving Mr Beast from the abuse and for how far he has come with him in a couple of months and I wish them both all the best.



I had never heard of a Bully Kutta and was curious so did a little research. Not a common dog at all and would be really interested to know where the dog came. Surely there isn't dog fighting in Switzerland!
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Mr. Dog, the puppy came from London.
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Slammer, I understand you. but your opinion based on the lack of knowledge or experience with this type of dog. To have a dog the size of a donkey, strength of a bull, with teeth making crocodile jealous not for everybody. For me My dog is the junior member of my pack, my baby, as a pack leader, I have the responsibility to teach him how to be a human, he teaching me how to be a bully kutta. I fill connected to him I understand him and in return, he gives me a lot of love, shares his energy, makes me fill better.
Well good luck with it.
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It´s not about how the dog looks or about it´s size. I think for instance that chihuahua´s are downright evil, although some lovers find their impotent rage cute as they bark and snap at everything they don´t understand, which would be almost everything, imagine the carnage if they were the size of a mastiff.
Don´t get me wrong; hurra for the OP and the new pup and I do hope it works out, but blindly trust a dog like that with the life of my children?
Nope!

In my opinion it´s all about race, with your logic Paris Hilton´s handbag yipper-snapper has the same intelligence and traits as a border collie and this is clearly not so.

Have to add, did you ever watch White Dog? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Dog
It is unfortunate you seem to make very general statements about dog breeds. I do understand your concern of "size" and "power". A Chihuahua bite won't be the same as a Mastiff's bite for sure. But - in the end, from experience, it really is not the breed but it all depends on the human what kind of dog it will grow up to. (same with kids eh? )
For instance, I have had small breeds my whole life (Dachshunds & Chihuahuas) and NONE of them were snappy, aggressive or yappy AT ALL. On the other hand, I've had big dogs bark at them during walks while mine kept quiet - so the stereotypical view of "small dogs are yappy, big dogs are calm" really isn't always true

Mr Beast seems to be in wonderful hands - wishing OP many years of happiness with him!
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Summergirl I agree. We have responsibility for our dog's actions. I am from a military background and learn dog handling in the army, where everybody subject to the chain of command. The dog must be balanced and happy, but in an unusual situation, he is not making a decision, he waiting for the command. Yes , same as kids.
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