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15.07.2020, 14:24
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Merci ...
That roller thing has the benefit of keeping other cats out. One of our neighbours has at least 20 cats and the syndic had about a thousand* farm cats.
* a slight exaggeration.
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15.07.2020, 14:50
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Question about the roller/oscilating system, from my new kitten-owning colleague:
The videos all show fairly high fences, likely 2m or more. Fences in her Quarter are restricted to 120cm max in a back garden, 80cm max in a front garden.. Do you experienced cat owners think the roller system would be effective with fences at this low height?
( know very little about cats, hence tossing the question to all y'all who do.)
Many thanks.
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15.07.2020, 14:57
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| | Re: Temporary Kitten enclosure. | Quote: | |  | | | Question about the roller/oscilating system, from my new kitten-owning colleague:
The videos all show fairly high fences, likely 2m or more. Fences in her Quarter are restricted to 120cm max in a back garden, 80cm max in a front garden.. Do you experienced cat owners think the roller system would be effective with fences at this low height?
( know very little about cats, hence tossing the question to all y'all who do.)
Many thanks. | | | | | My cat can jump to the top of his 1.75 m cat tree from the ground without needing to take a run at it...
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15.07.2020, 16:56
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| | Re: Temporary Kitten enclosure. | Quote: | |  | | | Question about the roller/oscilating system, from my new kitten-owning colleague:
The videos all show fairly high fences, likely 2m or more. Fences in her Quarter are restricted to 120cm max in a back garden, 80cm max in a front garden.. Do you experienced cat owners think the roller system would be effective with fences at this low height?
( know very little about cats, hence tossing the question to all y'all who do.)
Many thanks. | | | | | I think they would be effective as cats want to see what’s on the other side, so the pull themselves up, or aim for the top which is not going to be stable.
Of course there are cats that will prove me wrong. Probably the two little monsters, er angels that will be joining us on Saturday.
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17.07.2020, 14:11
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| | Re: Temporary Kitten enclosure. | Quote: | |  | | | My cat can jump to the top of his 1.75 m cat tree from the ground without needing to take a run at it... | | | | | No way, not in a single jump.
Cats, dogs, etc, will try to run up a wall, tree, whatever, and try to keep their speed/kinetic energy. MonkeyIsland's link/clip shows that clearly, with the dogs at the end it's particularly clearly visible. The dogs use the corner to make up for their lack of "real" claws.
As for 0.80m or 1.20m height, I'd definitely give it a try. Even that "low", a cat needs to get a grip on the top. meloncollie's colleague may need two rows of rolls to make up for the lack of height, dunno, I'd try with one row and see what happens. Perhaps film the cat if one row isn't enough. Using a flat surface, if possible, to have the cat lose speed while it's climbing may be helpful, though I can't think of anything I'd be willing to use (plexiglass would get a big NO WAY).
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A kind of a cap for the wall/fence might be the simplest "quick and dirty" solution for a first try. Make it U-shaped ( like this, though I'd prefer rounded), wide enough to cover the topmost xy centimeters (10-15cm?), aluminum or something else the claws don't get a grip on. See if it works and go on from there, keepin in mind that the cap may help moss/mold grow.
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18.07.2020, 23:30
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| | Re: Temporary Kitten enclosure. | Quote: | |  | | | No way, not in a single jump. | | | | | Umm, tell me again how you know what my small dog sized and very athletic cat can and cannot do? | This user would like to thank Kittster for this useful post: | | 
19.07.2020, 17:37
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| | Re: Temporary Kitten enclosure. | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | The highest I see the cat's hind go up there is maybe half a meter. Definitely not even close to the 1.75m you mentioned.
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19.07.2020, 17:40
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| | Re: Temporary Kitten enclosure. | Quote: | |  | | | The highest I see the cat's hind go up there is maybe half a meter. Definitely not even close to the 1.75m you mentioned. | | | | | Our cat can jump to the top of our 1.80m fence easily from the ground without taking a run at it, he does it every day.
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19.07.2020, 18:55
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| | Re: Temporary Kitten enclosure. | Quote: | |  | | | The highest I see the cat's hind go up there is maybe half a meter. Definitely not even close to the 1.75m you mentioned. | | | | | He is jumping as high as necessary to catch the ball he is playing with, it was more to illustrate his size. A healthy cat can jump five to six times its shoulder height. My cat's shoulder height is somewhere between 35 and 40 cm, so it is no surprise that he can make the jump.
Kittens will easily be contained by a 1.20 m fence but I don't think it would be sufficient for an adult cat, especially if it has a certain amount of time to figure out how to do it. For this height, I think you'd be better off with nets the face upward and onward. This may, however, be against the rules on fence heights.
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19.07.2020, 18:58
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| | Re: Temporary Kitten enclosure. | Quote: | |  | | | He is jumping as high as necessary to catch the ball he is playing with, it was more to illustrate his size. A healthy cat can jump five to six times its shoulder height. My cat's shoulder height is somewhere between 35 and 40 cm, so it is no surprise that he can make the jump. | | | | | Feel free to prove that - without the cat touching whatever it's about to jump over of course.
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19.07.2020, 19:08
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Did somebody ask for (low-flying) pictures?
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19.07.2020, 19:11
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| | Re: Temporary Kitten enclosure. | Quote: | |  | | | Did somebody ask for (low-flying) pictures? | | | | | Oh my oh my oh my... serious cuteness overload! Your kitties are beyond adorable.
Here's to much fun and adventuring (safely in the garden!) as your new fluffy friends settle in.
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19.07.2020, 19:50
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The picture doesn’t do their eyes justice. Brilliant Blue !
They came with harnesses so we are going to try that for the first while, attached to a lead. We’ve found a sheep fence at Landi, but it is too low to stop high flying kittens.
We’ve been cat-less since December. The house feels much more like a home again.
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19.07.2020, 20:07
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| | Re: Temporary Kitten enclosure. | Quote: | |  | | | You will have to wait until, at least, Saturday. | | | | | Are you giving the kitties a house warming party Bowlie?
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19.07.2020, 21:15
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Me? I just follow instructions around here. As they are from the netherlands we need to take them to the vets tomorrow. The breeder has insisted we feed them special food. The good news is both Cats and Dogs and maxizoo stock it, the bad news it’s quiet expensive. My suggestion that we get some of the cheap stuff from the Migros fell on deaf ears. Funny that.
Say hello to Alicia for us, we haven’t seen her in a while, since February or march I think.
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| | Re: Temporary Kitten enclosure. | Quote: | |  | | | Feel free to prove that - without the cat touching whatever it's about to jump over of course. | | | | | That would involve me caring enough to get my cat to do that while I film him. Definitely have better things to do. To the lady who asked about the fence height (the only person who really has any skin in this height debate): based on what I've seen my and other cats do, your fence is not high enough. Feel free to disregard that opinion in favour of our resident expert in feline anatomy and physical performance.
Cute kittens.
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01.11.2020, 08:27
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We recently moved and the previous owner, who had 10 cats  had this enclosure built. They even provided us the invoice for it.
We don't need it and have been trying to rehome it, unsuccessfully.
It is well over 2 metres high ! About 235 cm and even higher on the sides. I have never owned cats (highly allergic) so I don't honestly know how how they can jump.
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| | Re: Temporary Kitten enclosure. | Quote: | |  | | | We recently moved and the previous owner, who had 10 cats had this enclosure built. They even provided us the invoice for it. 
We don't need it and have been trying to rehome it, unsuccessfully.
It is well over 2 metres high ! About 235 cm and even higher on the sides. I have never owned cats (highly allergic) so I don't honestly know how how they can jump. | | | | | Jumping isn't the problem, but they climb anything. A fence that has any horizontal component they could get a claw on is a waste of time, unless it has a roof.
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01.11.2020, 08:42
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| | Re: Temporary Kitten enclosure. | Quote: | |  | | | Jumping isn't the problem, but they climb anything. A fence that has any horizontal component they could get a claw on is a waste of time, unless it has a roof. | | | | | Our cat would scale that quite easily, it has handy holes all the way up for him to cling on to.
One of the neighbourhood cats even found a way to climb up and in through a first floor window and could often be found sleeping on our son’s bed if our son forgot to tilt it before he left the room.
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01.11.2020, 08:45
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| | Re: Temporary Kitten enclosure. | Quote: | |  | | | Jumping isn't the problem, but they climb anything. A fence that has any horizontal component they could get a claw on is a waste of time, unless it has a roof. | | | | | I didn't mention that there is an existing roof and the small gap between the roof and sides was closed with a different wire mesh.
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