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Question: Involuntary dog breeding

Hello. I need advice from peuple who were in a similar situation or know well the Swiss law about digs breeding.
Our female dog accidentally mated with a neighbor male dog in the yard. We hoped the puppies won’t come but after 1,5 months it seems our dog is pregnant. If so, we’ll raise puppies and sell them for a minimal price at the age of 2 months.
So, what shall be our next steps? Going to a vet? And what will be potential fines for this? We are a bit scared not knowing swiss rules if the dog and the puppies can be taken from us, or the fine can be huge?

Please advise what to expect!

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Old 22.07.2020, 15:40
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Re: Question: Involuntary dog breeding

Never heard of any such fines.

You need to look after the mother and pups though! That means mum needs a trip to the vet for ultra sound an X-ray. You need to get advice about the labour and raising the pups. Mum will need a Whelping box etc.

What kind of dogs are the parents?
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Old 22.07.2020, 16:06
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Re: Question: Involuntary dog breeding

Delemont is canton Jura, right?

If so, there is no legal issue to worry about.

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For anyone else reading this, a legal concern falls around cantonal BSL and if either of the dogs were banned breeds in the canton of residence.

(FYI, VS cantonal law stipulates that puppies born after the ban enactment date would be euthanised.)

However, since most BSL bans went into effect in 10-14 years ago, the chance of a grandfathered banned dog breeding is small.

The only other legal concern is if an involuntary mating involved a dog who is a commercial stud/dam. This, however, would likely be a civil dispute between the parties.

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That said - get your dog to the vet ASAP!

When you said 'we hope the pups wouldn't come', does that mean you administered the mismating shot, but the pregnancy has still advanced? If so, even more urgency to get to the vet.


You now have a very, very great responsibility to undertake. Your dog needs health care both pre and post partum, and you need to educate yourself on not only how to (help) deliver the pups, but also how to care for them. Hopefully this won't happen, but you also need to prepare to deal with emergencies.

Time is running out quickly - You need to get cracking building both a suitable whelping pen as well as an early socialisation activity set. And your home must be made very, very secure. If the mating happened in your garden, or as the result of your dog getting out of your garden, you need to go over the garden with a fine tooth comb to find any and every place where a tiny pup could get out.

Puppy rearing is very labor intensive. Is someone home 24/7? If not, either someone needs to take a leave from work for the time the pups will be with you (legally a pup cannot leave his mother until after day 56), or you need to hire an experienced puppy raiser... or you need to enlist the help of a reputable Tierheim. This last likely means turning the pups over to the Tierheim for rehoming.

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First get to the vet, have a frank discussion. Then come back with questions. A few EF posters have experience breeding, hopefully they can give you some pointers.


ETA:

Average gestation period for a dog is 63 days, the range generally 58-72 days. So if the mating happened a month and a half ago - the pups could be here within two to four weeks! There is so much you need to do - not to belabour the point, but you need to get plans in motion NOW.

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Old 22.07.2020, 16:10
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Re: Question: Involuntary dog breeding

The only conceivable "fine" I can think of is if either of the dogs is some pedigree where there is a contract in place that stipulates a sum to be paid if the dog is used for breeding. No doubt, the incredibly knowledgable meloncollie will be along with additional insights, she is the dog expert.

Please spay your dog after her puppies are weaned and persuade your neighbour to neuter his boy too. No need for any further "accidents" and there is plenty of research that suggests there are further health benefits such as a lower risk of developing certain cancers.

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Re: Question: Involuntary dog breeding

blimey how did wolves cope before being domesticated?????
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Old 22.07.2020, 16:41
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blimey how did wolves cope before being domesticated?????
Look at a wolf, look at a pug, look back to the wolf. Ah, humans got involved.
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Re: Question: Involuntary dog breeding

What breed are the parents? Would it not be a good idea to have your dog sterilised?
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Re: Question: Involuntary dog breeding

So, a Great Pyrenees and Sarplaninac walk into a bar...
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Re: Question: Involuntary dog breeding

Might the neighbour want one of the puppies?
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Re: Question: Involuntary dog breeding

Would the neighbours have to pay you maintenance for their dog getting your dog up the duff and you being left to raise the pups on your own?

Would you need to get a DNA test to force them to do so?

All the best and post some pics when they’re finally there... this could make for a fantastic story!
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Re: Question: Involuntary dog breeding

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Re: Question: Involuntary dog breeding

AndreyMas, how did the vet appointment go?
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