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Old 21.08.2020, 22:21
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Re: Indoor vs outdoor cats question

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I have a genuine question as I really don't understand the difference.

My friend wanted to get 2 kittens to live in his apartment. He was told he had to buy indoor kittens.... I genuinely thought cats were cats and if you let them outdoors they were outdoor cats and if you didn't they were indoor cats....

My Swiss husband said that this is not true and he thinks they are genetically different (have I married a nutter ?) and that in Switzerland you either get indoor cats bread from indoor cats or outside ones bread from outside ones!!!

My friend has now just got 2 'farm' kittens throwing a whole different 'species into the equation.....

Does anyone have the answer ?
Your Swiss husband is a nutter. But that's normal. All husbands are nutters. Ask my wife.

He's wrong. But you get two schools of thought:

1. You let your cat wander? How could you? Don't you care? They're going to die young.
2. You confine your cat? How could you? Don't you care? They're going to die young.

I'm on the side of 1.
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Old 21.08.2020, 22:24
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Re: Indoor vs outdoor cats question

The Great Outdoors is too much like hard work. Who’s going to play thumbs and do everything for you?
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Old 21.08.2020, 22:26
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Re: Indoor vs outdoor cats question

If you let them out they should at least be ugly. My cats are so ******* beautiful, someone would steal them, they’ll just walk up to anyone out there, including a bus and seek love.

F**k that I say. I have imprisoned them for crimes they have yet to commit. Caged, and punished by cuddles.

Please can a Moderator change the title of this thread to ‘Indoor Cage vs The Great Outdoors...’
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Old 21.08.2020, 22:33
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I'm on the side of 1.
And I, having had both types, am on side of 2.

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Old 21.08.2020, 22:39
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Re: Indoor vs outdoor cats question

My heart is breaking now for my two little house tigers... I can see them roaming the plains of the Maasai Mara, hunting wildebeest, cruising the great prairies waging war with buffalo and hunting grizzly bears in the Yukon. Their little clawed hands trying to rub two sticks together to make a fire.

Ah, to be free from Thumb-Guy's large and luxurious cage of inhumanity.

I know this though, that were I to die and remain unfound, unloved. The furry little Bastards would probably try and eat me, Oh, wait one of them isn't really that agile on account of his spinal surgery and he has no teeth. Maybe he'll just try and suckle the goodness from me before making his great escape.
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Old 22.08.2020, 08:42
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Re: Indoor vs outdoor cats question

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1. You let your cat wander? How could you? Don't you care? They're going to die young.
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Quite a few cats owners in my area who let them wander around. With one noticeable exception, they're all shy and keep distance from people and don't venture in the street (at least not to my knowledge). I'm more worried for the "attention whore" that comes to everyone and looks for affection, but even that one is still all right because we're a decent neighbourhood.

Btw, my friend who lives on the ground floor and has two cats who're basically living outside for most part of the day has to get rid of the hunting "trophies" - little birds and mice that these felines bring to her...in the living room.
They're very fat and well fed so I guess they hunt because it's in their instinct.

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Old 22.08.2020, 09:01
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Re: Indoor vs outdoor cats question

Just popping in to remind folks that if you are looking for an indoor cat, why not consider one who is FIV or FeLV positive?

These cats must be indoor only, as the risk of infecting other cats is too great to let them outside.

Unfortunately, these cats often have a difficult time finding homes in Switzerland due to the widespread idea that a cat must go outdoors, at all costs. So these cats often face a bleak future here.

Yes, FIV and FeLV are not conditions to take lightly, and an owner needs to be prepared for what may come. However, they can be asymptomatic for many years and can lead normal, happy inside lives.

Just a thought...
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Old 22.08.2020, 09:09
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And I, having had both types, am on side of 2.

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Typo. I meant 2...
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Old 22.08.2020, 10:12
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Re: Indoor vs outdoor cats question

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Just popping in to remind folks that if you are looking for an indoor cat, why not consider one who is FIV or FeLV positive?

These cats must be indoor only, as the risk of infecting other cats is too great to let them outside.

Unfortunately, these cats often have a difficult time finding homes in Switzerland due to the widespread idea that a cat must go outdoors, at all costs. So these cats often face a bleak future here.

Yes, FIV and FeLV are not conditions to take lightly, and an owner needs to be prepared for what may come. However, they can be asymptomatic for many years and can lead normal, happy inside lives.

Just a thought...
I was just about to say that.
I saw an ad in the vet’s the other day with that very thing. Two gorgeous kittens looking for new homes but were positive to one of those so needed to be indoor only cats with no access to others.
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Old 22.08.2020, 17:59
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Re: Indoor vs outdoor cats question

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Anyway, they've fitted a GPS tracker on a harness round his shoulders, on the basis that he's so much in and out of everyone's houses that he will fairly soon get locked in somewhere, if it hasn't already happened. Maybe that would be a better, and cheaper, approach...

I can only sing the praises of a GPS tracker; it quite literally saved the ship's kitten's life two Sundays ago.



Next door's underground garage door was left open, in he slipped and somehow got into the engine compartment of one of the cars in there. Thank the Lord it was a company car with a phone no. on and that the people weren't planning to leave until Monday morning.



The poor mite was stuck in the engine bay for about 10 hours until we managed to track him down once he hadn't shown up for too long (the tracker was showing no connection so we had to go from last known point and follow the miaouws). Even then it took over 2 hours to get him out, including jacking up the car to create a space for him to get out around the suspension. We had already tried (and failed) to crowbar the floor pan off and damn the expense and were just deciding whether to call the fire brigade or the breakdown service when he finally put his head out of the gap we had created. I quickly grabbed the scruff of his neck and t'other half reached up (where a cat's head can go, the rest of him can too) and he (the cat) used his (the OH's) arm as a step and we finally got him out.


Had to bath him afterwards to get the oil off - which was fun.
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Old 22.08.2020, 18:12
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Re: Indoor vs outdoor cats question

We adopted a farm cat. You couldn't close the kitchen door onto the balcony without him howling the place down.
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Old 22.08.2020, 18:37
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Re: Indoor vs outdoor cats question

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We adopted a farm cat. You couldn't close the kitchen door onto the balcony without him howling the place down.
Yep, farm cats are used to going out and are not great as indoor cats.

Ours used to climb up the mosquito netting on the windows in a desperate attempt to get out which we wouldn’t let him do until he was older and fully vaccinated.
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Old 22.08.2020, 20:54
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You have married a nutter

There is no genetic difference, but there is a difference in conditioning. The first 7 weeks of a kittens life are crucial to how it responds to it's environment. If for example you want a cat to be able to go outside, you need to tell the breeder and they will introduce the cats to the environment outside of the house, grass, other cats or dogs etc.

I have 2 Siamese cats who I got as 'indoor' cats only. At the time I never anticipated letting them out. When I found myself with a grounds floor apartment and a garden, I thought to let them out. They could never deal with it, the grass was foreign and they were insecure about their territory and started spraying. It really got out of control and I took them off to an animal behavior specialist who told me about the first few weeks of their life.

I could never introduce them to the outside world, so they are indoor cats exclusively.

My advice would be to have them exposed to the outdoors. You can always bring a cat inside, but you can't always let them become outdoors cats.

Whether farm cats or from a breeder, you can always make indoor cats of them, but not necessarily the other way round.

Maybe this is what your husband means.

I hope this helps.
My parents got an indoor cat from a cat rehoming charity (in the UK), and slowly introduced her to outdoors, she loves it. Of course, we do not know what her kittenhood was like, but she was around 3/4 when she was adopted. (She was also supposedly neutered, but was not, she may or may not have been pregnant when my parents found out and got her done).

My dad (who is one of those guys that does not really like cats, but secretly is a devoted slave) gets worried if she stays out too late and locks the car port door so she can’t get to the gardens at night. She is a floofball.
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