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Old 07.10.2020, 19:55
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I plan to do it around the end of October or start of November, so certainly I have time. I will be glad if you can connect me to them, and/or the company they contracted.
I'll send a message tonight and get back to you as soon as I hear from my friend.
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

When we moved from London up to Scotland in 2004 we drove and had to take our cat in the car with us. It was around a 7 or 8 hour journey including stops, so we asked the vet for advice and he said he would give us something to sedate her with so she would sleep for most of the journey.

Blooming tablets didn't work and I had to sit in the back seat with the carrier as she was yowling the place down. We had to stop near Cumbria and take her out for a walk on a harness. When we put her back in the carrier she yowled all the way to Fife
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

When we moved here, from East Midlands to Romandie- we realised our cat just could NOT move in a normal cat carrier. We bought a large wire dog cage that took the whole boot (Discovery) - so she had a litter tray, water and food, as well as her favourite blanket- and she was fine. A normal cat carrier is just not suitable for a long journey, surely.


Our large dog had her hammock taking the whole of the back seat.
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Old 07.10.2020, 22:10
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

I flew from the US to Switzerland with my cat in the cabin with me in 2009. The carrier had to be the soft kind, and I had to arrange it with the airline in advance. My cat was completely quiet the entire time. I would just reach into the carrier (which I had to keep on the floor in front of my legs) and pet her and give her treats, etc. In order to get through customs with her, when arriving here in CH, I had to show them her vaccination card (showing she had all the necessary vaccines given recently) and they scanned her microchip.

If you do take your cat on the plane, maybe try to keep it "on the down low" so the other passengers might not notice. One woman two rows back did throw a fit about it, saying she has a cat allergy, so they moved her seat.
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I'll send a message tonight and get back to you as soon as I hear from my friend.
Excellent, thank you!

And thanks everyone, I understood the requirements. I already have a soft carrier the cat is used to, and we used it last time flying to Paris.
I will try to get a private jet now, if not, then proceed to contact Swiss Airlines.
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Old 08.10.2020, 13:29
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I will try to get a private jet now
Money & environment not an issue obvs!
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Excellent, thank you!

And thanks everyone, I understood the requirements. I already have a soft carrier the cat is used to, and we used it last time flying to Paris.
I will try to get a private jet now, if not, then proceed to contact Swiss Airlines.
Here’s one. Biggen Hill to Zürich for only €5790

https://www.globeair.com/r/private-jet-london-zurich

Heathrow and Gatwick are possible, due Corona but expect higher costs for positioning and airport costs.
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Old 08.10.2020, 13:56
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

"Curiouser and curiouser!"
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Old 08.10.2020, 14:06
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Money & environment not an issue obvs!
$4000 budget. I'm sure for that someone here would volunteer to act as chauffeur.
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

Why not travel by train or by car?
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Old 08.10.2020, 16:29
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Why not travel by train or by car?
Have you ever spent that many hours in a confined space with a scared and yowling cat? I did moving cross-country in the States and would not do it again. I'd also hire a charter or grab a seat on one if I could afford it!
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Here’s one. Biggen Hill to Zürich for only €5790

https://www.globeair.com/r/private-jet-london-zurich

Heathrow and Gatwick are possible, due Corona but expect higher costs for positioning and airport costs.
Yes, a 6K range is typical for private jet flights, but it's still about 50% above my budget.
There is something called empty leg private jet flights, which is where you don't care too much about date and time of travel, so you use the jet on the return (or to) trip of someone else who booked a one way trip.
I found:
https://www.animalairlines.co.uk/private-jet/

That offer this service, but I failed to contact them, they might have closed due to Covid-19.
This is why is someone is familiar, I will be glad.

About cars and trains - this is the backup option if flights fail. Both my wife and I frankly dislike traveling by car. Train is OK. But the cat will suffer a lot more as the trip will be many times longer. So I prefer to fly it if possible.
The well being of my cat is of course higher priority than other considerations. I don't fly private jets for myself. But this is a member of the family and she doesn't understand what is going on.
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

I really think flying commercial on Swiss or BA is going to be the easiest. The airlines have lots of experience with carrying live animals. It will be the quickest, door to door as well.

If you go for business class both leave the middle seat empty giving you more underseat space for your feet and the cat. Being at the front means you are last on and first off as well.
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

We flew with our cat from Canada on Condor and Swiss. We had to take the cat out of the carrier through security, so the harness was very handy to keep a hold of her.
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Old 10.10.2020, 21:15
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

Update: My friend used Alpine Sky Jets out of Belp. It included probably more than what you're looking for, such as door-to-door pick-up and drop-off as well as mostly unlimited luggage. It's well beyond your budget though.

While searching for options I came up with some others, but I don't know anyone that has used them. The points guy has some tips that might help as well as links to a number of sites.

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There are dozens and dozens of private operators listed here under charter airlines.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...for-pet-travel

Start researching.
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Update: My friend used Alpine Sky Jets out of Belp. It included probably more than what you're looking for, such as door-to-door pick-up and drop-off as well as mostly unlimited luggage. It's well beyond your budget though.

While searching for options I came up with some others, but I don't know anyone that has used them. The points guy has some tips that might help as well as links to a number of sites.

Good luck!
How much did it cost him?
I might be interested in pickup and drop off, as well as luggage, and I am very flexible on date and time, so maybe I'll manage to negotiate a lower cost with them for an empty leg.

Medea - thank you. I started trying to contact companies.

All in all seems like during Covid-19 times it's much harder to get an empty leg proper, so I might have to fly with Swiss airlines. Which is still a good solution, so thank you everyone who replied
I will update if I actually manage to book a charter.
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Old 11.10.2020, 21:51
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How much did it cost him?
I might be interested in pickup and drop off, as well as luggage, and I am very flexible on date and time, so maybe I'll manage to negotiate a lower cost with them for an empty leg.

Medea - thank you. I started trying to contact companies.

All in all seems like during Covid-19 times it's much harder to get an empty leg proper, so I might have to fly with Swiss airlines. Which is still a good solution, so thank you everyone who replied
I will update if I actually manage to book a charter.
I didn't want to be too nosy and ask for exact cost, so I asked for price range for the company's services. I was told 13-18K. My friend flew only one direction, not return, but I don't know if it was an empty leg or not.
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I didn't want to be too nosy and ask for exact cost, so I asked for price range for the company's services. I was told 13-18K. My friend flew only one direction, not return, but I don't know if it was an empty leg or not.
That was probably not an empty leg.
On the other hand, I spoke today with a few charter companies, and empty legs are extremely unreliable right now ...
I did manage to get a quote for 5K Euro though ...
So I'll keep looking.

Thank you for your help!
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Have you ever spent that many hours in a confined space with a scared and yowling cat? I did moving cross-country in the States and would not do it again. I'd also hire a charter or grab a seat on one if I could afford it!
Yes! Dallas - Memphis and back + Dallas - Tampa with 3 cats. Then flew to Frankfurt, drove to Luxembourg and eventually moved (and drove) to Switzerland. Our cats have traveled more than some humans.

OP doesn’t need to take a private jet...I don’t understand why this is even a recommendation. My friend just flew on Swiss with the cat in cabin with zero issues, it is also a short flight.
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