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Moving a cat without separation

Dear all,

I have a cat (and a wife) currently in London. I seek to transport them both to Zurich, under the condition that the cat must travel with us (meaning - can not be flying in the hold for example).
Is there an option for flying in the cabin London -> Zurich?
I heard there are options with private jets, and that there is about 50% discount on empty leg private jet flights, but I did not see how to book an empty leg.
Are there companies that offer that service (with the requirement of traveling together with the cat at all times) - that anyone can recommend?
If there is no option to fly, I guess the next option is companies that can transport us by car?
I would prefer a company that can assist with the whole process, including preliminary veterenary help (passport, vaccince, etc.).

The budget for this is about $4K.
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

Call and speak to the airline. You can on short flights with animals under a certain size/weight (7kg including bag) in the cabin. The bag needs to go under the seat and the animal must remain in the bag at all times. I've done this with my dog within Europe, flying Swiss.

You could also drive over with the animal.
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

Thank you for your answer.

The cat weights 5.8 Kg, so should be fine.
I understood though that there could be problems flying out of London in the cabin, hence wasnted to check if someone has experience with it.
I would prefer to pay for a company to take care of these arrangements for me.
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

Both Swiss and BA allow small animals in the cabin, under certain conditions. Check their websites for details. The size is a key factor as is the number of animals allowed on each flight. You could see seats available for the passengers, but the maximum number of animals already booked.

LCCs like easyJet do not carry animals (other than party-animals) in the cabin.
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

As long as the cat plus carrier weigh less than 7-8kg, the cat can go in the cabin. The carrier must also fit under a seat, so depending on the carrier type that can post some issues.

Be aware that on Swiss long haul (the only flying I do, no idea what type of plane flies from the UK) some pet carriers do not fit under the stowage area in first and biz as the extras in those seats limit some of the stowage. I was told that a pet in first must go in one of the closets during take off and landing. If you choose this option, do make sure that there is indeed airflow in the closets, this was a point the cabin crew could not answer for me when I asked. You'd want to contact the animal transport specialists.

Whatever class you fly, book a specific seat and make sure your carrier fits.

Some people fly with soft side carriers in cabin.

In Switzerland one pet transportation company with a good reputation is Ace Pet Moving:
http://acepetmoving.com


** Looking up the address, I see that the company has now split in two. I don't know why that was done or what that means in terms of service. You will want to get references from recent travellers.

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Will you be arriving before the end of the year, as in before the UK becomes a non-EU country? That is key in terms of conditions for entry for your pet.

See here, and follow the links for info on entry requirements:
https://www.blv.admin.ch/blv/en/home...frettchen.html


Good luck with the trip!
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

Genuine question:

What do you do with an animal's feces on an airplane? Especially its urine?
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

Thank youf ro your replies.

I have a soft carriage, and have flown with my cat before. It fits below the seat. I will choose the ticket class to match the requirement of the cat traveling with me, as it's a short flight anyway.

Thank you for the company referecne, I will contact both for details.

Regarding feces - most pets do not tend to soil themselves in a carrier unless stressed. Given the flight is short, it shouldn't be a problem.
I usually insert padding into the carrier (a shirt) to abosrb small amounts of urine that might escape if the cat gets scared.
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Genuine question:

What do you do with an animal's feces on an airplane? Especially its urine?
Normally cats and dogs don’t defecate where they are sleeping, so it’s not a problem. With a dog, you make sure they empty their bladder and bowels before boarding. And they can spend 12 hours without problems.

That being said, some animals get motion sickness. When I flew with my dog I padded the cage with the special bed-size sanitary pads similar to those you get at hospital.
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Normally cats and dogs don’t defecate where they are sleeping, so it’s not a problem. With a dog, you make sure they empty their bladder and bowels before boarding. And they can spend 12 hours without problems.

That being said, some animals get motion sickness. When I flew with my dog I padded the cage with the special bed-size sanitary pads similar to those you get at hospital.
Like many things, timing is everything. It wouldn’t be unusual for a home-airport-flight-airport-home journey to exceed 12 hours, even London-Zurich. Check the airport’s websites to see if they provide comfort stations for small animals both landside (ie before Security/Passport Control) and airside (after). Airside is much less likely.

For a cat you can get a small plastic folding litter tray that they may (remembering these are cats) use at the boarding gate. Edited to add, also have a harness/lead. Yes I know cats hate them but you are going to nead it if you take your cat out of their carrier.

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Re: Moving a cat without separation

Just take it in the cabin on BA or Swiss. Give the airline a call. Easy. Or come by train alternatively.

Make sure cat has passport and rabies vaccine at least 3 weeks before travel. Best to move it here before the end of the year as travel post-Brexit with pets is as yet unclear.
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

Thank you for the replies.

Yes, I plan to move the cat before the end of the year anyway. I am aware of the unfortunate mess with Brexit.
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

My friend just moved here from London with his cat and he flew on Swiss for 60 EUR in cabin.

Good luck!
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You could also drive over with the animal.
If you drive make sure to use the Chunnel since any ferry company will require a pet to stay in the vehicle for the duration of the ferry crossing.
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

Also make sure that your cat is comfortable with beeing in a carrier.

Our two "monsters" unfortunately associate it with something negative (the vet).
They are very very vocal when its time for the yearly checkup.

The vet told me to leave the carriers out from time to time so they get used to them & it doesnt come down to earplugs & bloodshed (mine) each time.
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My friend just moved here from London with his cat and he flew on Swiss for 60 EUR in cabin.

Good luck!
Nice! This is great to hear, so hopefully they allow it.
I will check with them.

And thanks everyone for the advice.
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Nice! This is great to hear, so hopefully they allow it.
I will check with them.

And thanks everyone for the advice.
See here, cats are permitted FROM (but not TO) the UK https://www.swiss.com/ch/EN/prepare/...g-with-animals
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See here, cats are permitted FROM (but not TO) the UK https://www.swiss.com/ch/EN/prepare/...g-with-animals
Ah great, this explains it. As I remember having to fly to Paris and drive from there because of this limitation, but happy to see it's only on the way in.
Should be pretty easy then
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Re: Moving a cat without separation

You might want to invest in a light carrier, ie not a hard plastic box, for the trip. Think about a couple of practice runs before, eg you put the cat in and go for a short drive and then get home and give it a treat etc.



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Also make sure that your cat is comfortable with beeing in a carrier.

Our two "monsters" unfortunately associate it with something negative (the vet).
They are very very vocal when its time for the yearly checkup.

The vet told me to leave the carriers out from time to time so they get used to them & it doesnt come down to earplugs & bloodshed (mine) each time.
You can put their bowl of food inside the carrier from time to time or some treat biscuits so they don't always associate it with trouble.
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...I heard there are options with private jets, and that there is about 50% discount on empty leg private jet flights, but I did not see how to book an empty leg.
Are there companies that offer that service (with the requirement of traveling together with the cat at all times) - that anyone can recommend?
How soon do you need to sort it?

A friend of mine just did this (seat on a charter jet), except flew to UK from CH. I can send an email to ask how it worked if you have a few days to figure it out.
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How soon do you need to sort it?

A friend of mine just did this (seat on a charter jet), except flew to UK from CH. I can send an email to ask how it worked if you have a few days to figure it out.
I plan to do it around the end of October or start of November, so certainly I have time. I will be glad if you can connect me to them, and/or the company they contracted.
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