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Maybe he's mentally ill. Don't attribute to malice what can belong to a pathology.
Indeed. OP seems to orient towards a conflictual attitude, but that will not work out if the man is not in rational control of his anger.

The law being on your side won't help your cat if he gets disappeared without leaving a trace, as sometimes happens to outdoors cats due to theft, predation, traffic and human malice. For my family the fix (mostly to theft and traffic) was to not let cats outside anymore, and any new cat was indoor only. Works out well for the cats. There are nets to make cat-proof outdoor areas or balconies to enjoy the sun and look at the birds.
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The law being on your side won't help your cat if he gets disappeared without leaving a trace, as sometimes happens to outdoors cats due to theft, predation, traffic and human malice.

In the wise words of one of my Tierschutz mentors:

"The welfare of the animal comes before Animal Welfare."


Safeguarding our animals often means thinking and acting strategically, diplomatically, realistically. Kittster said it best:

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So please think in terms of finding a win win if possible
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Old 08.05.2021, 08:12
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And simmer down with the tales of feline cuisine, it is not helping in any way and looks suspiciously like a sadistic enjoyment of upsetting cat lovers.
Simmer?

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Old 08.05.2021, 09:24
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I feel very sorry that EastEanders left.

God forbid you piss off the animal welfare activists. I mean, you can say anything about people, but not animals.
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Indeed. OP seems to orient towards a conflictual attitude, but that will not work out if the man is not in rational control of his anger.

The law being on your side won't help your cat if he gets disappeared without leaving a trace, as sometimes happens to outdoors cats due to theft, predation, traffic and human malice. For my family the fix (mostly to theft and traffic) was to not let cats outside anymore, and any new cat was indoor only. Works out well for the cats. There are nets to make cat-proof outdoor areas or balconies to enjoy the sun and look at the birds.
This. I love animals but many of their owners would like to impose their levels of affection to everyone else around.

I remember when we had to deal with stray dogs back home. Americans just take them off the streets and kill them*, so do the French, so everyone else.....we had to let them roam in packs because.....animal rights!

But we digress.

Meantime, as a humanist and animal rights protector like everyone in the West, the so-called von und zu Prince of Liechtenstein killed the largest bear our rangers have studied in the mountains for years just for the sake of having yet another hunting trophy.

Who cares? Again, I digress. I just can't stand hypocrisy, that's all, had to take it off my chest.

*not saying this is the path to follow, those countries should be ashamed of their ways.

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Old 08.05.2021, 09:51
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Simmer?

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I knew you are into raw stuff.

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At our rustico, I always piss around the perimeter to mark my territory!

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And simmer down with the tales of feline cuisine, it is not helping in any way and looks suspiciously like a sadistic enjoyment of upsetting cat lovers.
He is a cat lover. Just of a different kind...
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I would definitely report this to the police, any kind of cruelty is not fine.

If someone did this to my pet, their vehicle would be up in flames or worse.
I'd report it to cars welfare service.

Btw, why not their house too? Who knows, that might teach them!

In fact setting on fire the whole neighbourhood because those animal nazis usually live in packs, might work even better.
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Old 08.05.2021, 11:28
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I feel very sorry that EastEanders left.

God forbid you piss off the animal welfare activists. I mean, you can say anything about people, but not animals.
EF at its best.
I hope she cools off and realizes those who attacked her would attack anyone who didn't share the same love of animals. I HATED finding cat poo in my garden and even worse, finding cat hair on my outdoor furniture. If you're allergic to cats and don't live on an upper floor or have large solid fences surrounding you, there's only so much you can do.
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I hope she cools off and realizes those who attacked her would attack anyone who didn't share the same love of animals. I HATED finding cat poo in my garden and even worse, finding cat hair on my outdoor furniture. If you're allergic to cats and don't live on an upper floor or have large solid fences surrounding you, there's only so much you can do.
EastEnders is one fine lady with the attitude of a saint towards us the pompous foreigners. I've learned a lot reading her posts.
I hope she'll come back.
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I feel very sorry that EastEanders left.

God forbid you piss off the animal welfare activists. I mean, you can say anything about people, but not animals.
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I hope she cools off and realizes those who attacked her would attack anyone who didn't share the same love of animals. I HATED finding cat poo in my garden and even worse, finding cat hair on my outdoor furniture. If you're allergic to cats and don't live on an upper floor or have large solid fences surrounding you, there's only so much you can do.
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EastEnders is one fine lady with the attitude of a saint towards us the pompous foreigners. I've learned a lot reading her posts.
I hope she'll come back.
Iím sure there must be more to it than one mildly sarcastic reply to her post in this thread.
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I feel very sorry that EastEanders left.

God forbid you piss off the animal welfare activists. I mean, you can say anything about people, but not animals.
EF at its best.



This. I love animals but many of their owners would like to impose their levels of affection to everyone else around.

I remember when we had to deal with stray dogs back home. Americans just take them off the streets and kill them*, so do the French, so everyone else.....we had to let them roam in packs because.....animal rights!

rBut we digess.

Meantime, as a humanist and animal rights protector like everyone in the West, the so-called von und zu Prince of Liechtenstein killed the largest bear our rangers have studied in the mountains for years just for the sake of having yet another hunting trophy.

Who cares? Again, I digress. I just can't stand hypocrisy, that's all, had to take it off my chest.

*not saying this is the path to follow, those countries should be ashamed of their ways.
Some members of the British Royal Family aren't much better
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God forbid you piss off the animal welfare activists. I mean, you can say anything about people, but not animals.
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This. I love animals but many of their owners would like to impose their levels of affection to everyone else around.
Totally agree with this. We are always making sure we do not assume everyone should love our dog- and always keep her away from people unless they indicate they'd like to say hello or pat her.

BUT- truly, there is a huge difference with deterring a cat by using a toy hand water gun- or other method - and using a jet on full on, and especially up a tree- that is sheer cruelty an totally out of order. Punkt- Schluss.

Not easy to know what to do however in this case. At our first house in the UK, our elderly neighbour had a huge vegetable garden of which he was very proud. We adopted a stray kitten from the hospital grounds, where we lived before- and when we were away, our cat turned up at the neighbours who were looking after him, with his jaw hanging down and tons of blood. She took it to emergency vet who had to wire up his jaw - and he lived. The neighbour admitted he had hit it by throwing a large stone at him. It was clear he would continue- he was truly nasty. Thank goodness we were just about to move away. Not sure what would have happened.

So yes, deter if needed- but viciously injur, NO, NO and more NO.

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Re: My neighbour soaked my cat

JackieH, your neighbour would have become my project; there are MANY ways to make someone's life a living hell without it being traceable to you or something that you can call the police about.

It's one thing to still believe in an amicable resolution of a one off error of judgement, but throwing stones and injuring gravely is war. For starters, his vegetable patch would become a barren wasteland or infested by vermin.
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BUT- truly, there is a huge difference with deterring a cat by using a toy hand water gun- or other method - and using a jet on full on, and especially up a tree- that is sheer cruelty an totally out of order..
Wrong.

Up a tree, the jet would be very weak, no stronger than a water pistol.

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We specifically told our neighbours they were welcome to hose our cats if they caused a problem, since they thought one of them was digging up flowers in pots and getting into their garage which is also dangerous if they got trapped.

Turned out it was someone else's cat, but even so I think a simple spray with a hose is a reasonable deterrent. With our cats the chance of actually hitting them with the water is pretty low anyway.

There's plenty of space around us, and learning which gardens are welcoming is part of their growing up.

But also we trust our neighbours not to do more than necessary, and they are not small kittens - sounds like OPs neighbour is a nasty bugger who is taking unacceptable steps.
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So yes, deter if needed- but viciously injur, NO, NO and more NO.
Absolutely, I would never do such a thing.

But having experienced a real crisis with stray dogs some time ago and seeing what we call (ironically) "animal lovers" fighting tooth and nail with folks from dog shelters because they thought the dogs are harmless so everyone should tolerate a few next to their home....frankly I have rarely seen such fanatic and unreasonable folks. They always managed to get their way through somehow.

With cats, I don't know, they don't come inside our home here. My friend has a pair of cats who are roaming around most of the day and sometimes they hunt little mouses and bring them and drop them exactly in the middle of their living room....

I guess if I am to ever get a cat it should be one that stays inside. Assuming none of us is allergic, which I'm not really sure of.
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Comparing totally different situations here.
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Re: My neighbour soaked my cat

OP didn't say if her neighbor has small kids he needs the garden clean for, but at the end of the day it is irrelevant. Cat poop is not only unpleasant to deal with, but who knows what parasites it contains. The neighbor probably protects his garden against all instruders, not only OP's kitten.
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I donít see a problem with gently spraying a cat with a hose or water pistol to deter them, a high pressure hose is a different thing entirely and could cause serious injury to the cat.

Cat poop in the garden is not nice at all and I wouldnít want it in my garden but there are far less dangerous ways to deter a cat than to turn a high pressure hose on it.
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Exactly, ways ... and ways- and high pressure hose and stones totally unacceptable. As for parasites, perhaps OP could confirm- but responsible cat owners as I believe she is, get their cats wormed regularly in this part of the world.

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