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Old 02.08.2013, 19:41
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

It was definitely the worst that I can remember. Hana, as usual, jumped on the couch and adopted her unladylike "all fours in the air" pose and conked out. She wasn't affected at all, but then nothing ever does affect her.

Abby and Cassie however were frantic. Even going down into the cellar didn't help much as it is a split level with daylight windows. Finally they both got so tired they just crashed next to us on the couch. They were really really tired this morning.

Once again we have vowed not to be around next year, but somehow...
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Old 02.08.2013, 19:48
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Our Gatsby used to be terrified of fireworks, shooting range noise, thunder ... now it is sad to see her getting old, but her recent deafness is a true blessing on days like yesterday!
This was our first 1 Aug without Haifisch; as he was stone deaf and therefore did not react in the slightest while the skies were exploding he was quite a calming influence on the other dogs. I'm sure not having him around was a factor this year.

I really wish that one of the newspapers could have been in the waiting room at the clinic yesterday; many people just do not realize how much damage is done. Most of the animals there last night were due to fireworks-related injuries - and the owners I spoke to all said that it was neighborhood fireworks, they themselves were not shooting any off. Last year the Belltie was burned by idiot neighbors, this year the relentless fireworks triggered Hooligan's seizure - the way private fireworks are used here is just plain dangerous.

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I remember reading about Swiss army bunkers that have been sold and turned into 'zero-star hotels'. I wonder if this might be the kind of thing I need to look for next year.

So - all of you ex-army folks: Just how quiet is a bunker? Would the explosions and flashes be sufficiently muffled?
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Old 02.08.2013, 20:12
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

I've had some trouble with the cats over the last couple of days - not so much Bonny (who will be 5 next month) but rather Clyde, who was behaving in ways that was after all making Bonny a bit nervous.

Unfortunately we get fireworks from pretty much all sides, one of our benefits the rest of the time was a fear for them, which is windows on both sides. The front side actually is less bad, with a good amount of space across a street AND train tracks, but the back side, with echoes, was bad.

Clyde was pacing around, looking for what the noise was, where it was coming from, etc, and wouldn't settle. I tempted him (and Bonny) with treats a few times on the 31st, and he calmed down after that. We were out for family stuff on the 1st, but when we came home he seemed ok, and when it did get a bit noisy, I gave them treats again. I wanted to give him some positive thing to associate with all that noise, and it seemed to work out alright.
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Old 02.08.2013, 20:57
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

I do believe that next year your problems will have been solved! In Canton Zurich anyway.

Apparently for those wanting to let off those big bomb and exploding things - it will be neccessary to do a "course" - costing Sfr500 for the days training - and that person is then responsible and has to conduct the fireworks in a safe place.

I can`t imagine every Tom,Dick & Harry forking out Sfr500? So they can still buy their fireworks, but will have to be in a "controlled" environment to "enjoy" them.

In my village here - it will be on the Knall (Gnall?) - or out in the open farmlands, away from houses.

It will be an offence for the lighting of bangs by every sod who bought them!

My own sympathy goes out to the animals other than dogs as well ..... the sheep and cows are also badly affected by the horrific noise. At 11pm last night there was baah-ing and clanging of cowbells.
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Old 02.08.2013, 22:34
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

Mine got a dose of Rescue Remedy yesterday evening. He never used to be worried when my old deerhound was around (who never turned a hair) but again, it could be his age - he's just turned 7. He only started reacting to fireworks this last New Year.
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Old 02.08.2013, 22:48
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Count your blessings in Switzerland though I lived in a large and very multicultural town in the UK, which I loved. But for Gatsby it was a total disaster, as we had fireworks non stop from August to New Year due to all the festivals, Eid, Diwali, Guy Fawkes, etc, where people would let off fireworks for days before and after each festival. We virtually could not go out for months, in case some idiot would start- and often with those huge bombs which make more noise than display, and made the whole house and windows shake.

At least here you know when it will happen + or - a day - and take steps to prevent disaster, or just go away to nearby France or Germany for that week-end.
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Old 02.08.2013, 22:58
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

It's the same in most of the UK, we come fom the North, where fireworks were let off weeks before bonfire night (Guy Fawkes night).
I had cats and spent many a night trying to comfort them.
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

I lost a horse to fireworks in Canada on Halloween one year.She was sick, and the stress of the fireworks put her over the edge. Those kids playing with fireworks don't stop to think for a moment about how scared the animals can get.There was a forest not too far away from my home where they were lighting fireworks too. I couldn't help but think about the squirrels, and other animals there too.
My chihuahua is also scared. Last night I gave her rescue remedy and kept her in my arms. Thankfully she did all right.
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Old 02.08.2013, 23:31
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

For the last 8 years we have taken our dogs to the Black Forest; usually Titisee. Nice & quiet & not really expensive; meals cost a fraction of Swiss prices & hotels are reasonable. Our hotel was full of Swiss dog refugees - same as every year.
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

I would take the mutts to France or Germany if I could. Unfortunately Hooligan had a seizure just before her rabies booster was due and the neurologist advised against vaccinating her this time. No up-to-date vac means no border crossing - so we are stuck here.

A quick google suggests that the Swiss army bunker/hotel doesn't take dogs, though.

But I found one for sale...
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

Leaving Switzerland certainly does not guarantee a peaceful August 1st!

For the first time in a number of years we were outside Switzerland this time. We had even forgotten it was August 1st until, whilst walking alongside the Vltava river in Prague on a beautiful summer's evening, the sky lit up the banging started and the ducks went scattering. Sure enough a Swiss flag was waving at an outdoor venue hosting a party. I guess they flew some guys in from Switzerland to put on the show as it was very much in the style of the Seenachtsfest.

It certainly diverted the attention of the masses of tourists!
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I would take the mutts to France or Germany if I could. Unfortunately Hooligan had a seizure just before her rabies booster was due and the neurologist advised against vaccinating her this time. No up-to-date vac means no border crossing - so we are stuck here.

A quick google suggests that the Swiss army bunker/hotel doesn't take dogs, though.

But I found one for sale...
Poor Hooligan. :-(

Apparently they are unloading bunkers! I hope this means you can get a better class of neighbor - better yet, no neighbor for km and km!
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People often ask me why we want to live out in the sticks .... but I know why, oh sure I do.

(mind you, if you choose to live out in the boonies, make sure it has good transport links and is close to all the things you need - far enough and yet ...)
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Old 03.08.2013, 10:59
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

*sits in big armchair, feet flat on floor, elbows bent and hands gripping arms*

1 ... 2 ... 3 ...

*push hard with arms and legs at the same time whilst shouting KA_BOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!*

Sorry. I love fireworks.

The Bruderholz ones on Thursday started with an almightly boom. One of those beautiful ones - small and perfectly spherical white dot and BANG. Lovely. It's basically the canton's way of saying "f/ck you losers, we start now" to all the individuals who are letting off their own fireworks.

Stick earplugs in your dog's ears, close all windows, and act normal. You're the pack leader. If you freak out (jumping around, shouting "poor doggy!", slamming windows shut etc) then your dog will freak too.
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Stick earplugs in your dog's ears, close all windows, and act normal. You're the pack leader. If you freak out (jumping around, shouting "poor doggy!", slamming windows shut etc) then your dog will freak too.
Adrian, the folks posting on this thread are knowledgeable experienced owners, folks well versed in how to deal with canine phobias, unlikely to do as you imply. The problem is far more complex than you suggest.

Those who are not pet owners or farmers likely do not realize just how damaging fireworks can be to animals - especially to those of us with animals whose medical or behavioral issues that can be triggered or exacerbated by the events of the day. Not to mention the poor animals who are injured as 'collateral damage' in the day's festivities.

The terrors of 1 August can unleash problems that we owners will be coping with the rest of the year, and for years to come.

I'm not a killjoy calling for a ban, as I do try to always respect the other person's views and rights. I'd just like to see more caution and common sense exercised - and a little bit of reciprocal understanding of the damage caused to our four footed friends.
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Old 03.08.2013, 11:27
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No, of course not. You just want years worth of tradition to be curtailed because you've decided to keep animal slaves. Sorry, pets.

I'm not a pet person
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Old 03.08.2013, 11:34
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

The noise post 1st of August will long prevail after actual fireworks took place. Such was a resounding effect of those.

Pets and folks (not in particular order), you alright now?

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No, of course not. You just want years worth of tradition to be curtailed because you've decided to keep animal slaves. Sorry, pets.

I'm not a pet person
Awww, you're just winding us up. But whatever. I don't think anywhere in the tradition it's appropriate to shoot fireworks directly at a pet, which i believe happened to one of MC's dogs. We also post in this thread to share our experiences, and discuss solutions. It's a pain in the a**. And i'm not terribly fond of the booming myself - i can watch fireworks for about 20 minutes and then i'm ready for the bunker.

For sure, i don't want to limit your enjoyment of hours of repetitive booming and flashes.
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

Fireworks are beautiful to watch. Nobody is saying to stop them. It is just very hard when your pet is so afraid of them. We love our pets like they are our children, and we want them to be safe and happy. We are just sharing our experiences. No need to be offensive, adrian
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Fireworks are beautiful to watch. Nobody is saying to stop them. It is just very hard when your pet is so afraid of them. We love our pets like they are our children, and we want them to be safe and happy. We are just sharing our experiences. No need to be offensive, adrian
im being offensive? What do your children think about your comments?
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