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Old 29.07.2009, 21:23
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August 1 and all that noise

Lily the Pup seems to have developed an aversion to thunderstorms, hailstorms and fireworks. When we lived in the US, she'd pretty much ignore thunder and fireworks, but here, since the start of the year, I've noticed that she gets uncomfortable when it gets noisy. I can't blame her - since we live along a valley, the noise echoes, and these are the loudest thunderstorms I've ever heard. The hailstorm last week was also very loud. She just paces and is very alert and uncomfortable.

So I'm thinking of just closing the blinds on Aug 1, and finding a quiet corner of the house and sitting there with Lily, maybe see if I can get her to play a little bit with her brain train (hide treats and she gets them). I might call the vet tomorrow and see what, if anything he recommends.

Anyone have other suggestions?

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Re: August 1 and all that noise

One of my dogs freaks out when it thunders. 'I normally turn up the Tv and put him in the Loo where ther are no windows. That normally works. I've read that it is best not to try and sooth the dog by calm talk etc. Just act like everything is normal.
If its during the day I will sit and put a lead on to control him and wait the storm out. He does bark, and I correct him, which has made him alot better.
I think you can get mild sedatives for pets in the extreme.

It's strange as the younger dog doesn't care about the thunder now.
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

It's interesting because it seems to have become worse recently. She usually sits on the terrace at night, but tonight kids have been shooting off something and she's been in the other side of the room. We finally shut the blinds and the door, and she seems better...

I don't want to spark a controversy, but I should tell you that I try to use positive reinforcement, especially if she's afraid. For Lily, distracting her to lower her arousal seems to work better than correction. But I am interested in knowing how other people deal with this.
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

1 August can be a very difficult day for the mutts.

After spending one 1 August in the Tierspital when my extreme noise-phobic dog went into convulsions after each bang, we gave up and the next year spent the day in Germany or France. We continued to do that every year while he was alive - 1 August was simply was too dangerous for him.

If your dogs' fear is not that extreme, in addition to closing the binds or putting on soothing background music, you could also try body wraps or a t-shirt as a calming aid. I've had good results using TTouch to relax the mutts a bit. Some people use DAP dispensers or DAP spray on bandanas - I didn't really see any improvement when I tried it, but some say it makes a difference for their dogs.

Some trainers recommend desensitizing, using a fireworks (or other scarey noise) CD... This approach can be effective when done using positive reinforcement and change-the-association, but usually takes some time to accomplish. (Going too fast can result in flooding.)

We had a breakthrough last year, the first 1 August after my deaf oldie joined the family. He can't hear a thing so he naturally he does not even notice, let alone react, when the neighborhood explodes. My other dogs, who the year before had been terrified, remained calmer - they clearly took their cue from the little guy. (Do you know any non-reactive dogs who might want to come over that night for a play date? )

Ignoring the madness outside seems to be the best way forward; I try to keep calm, we try to have a quiet family evening as if it was any other day. The operative word being 'try'.

It is often best to put a dog on lead if you have to go out in the garden while the rockets are flying. Every year dogs get spooked, jump fences, and end up lost - and a few never make it home.

Other than that, I pray for rain.

FYI, an article from the Tagi, with tips for helping your four footed friends get through the day:

http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/leben/ra...story/10294878


Wishing all the doggies out there a safe and sane 1 August.

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Hello,

it will be our first 1 August here in CH. Our girl has also fear of fireworks. She hides somewhere (usually under the table or bed) and starts to breath rapidly and gets really upset.

I would like to know what time does the fireworks begin on 1 August?

I really don't want to be outside with her at that time, because in such cases she starts to pull on the leash (very strong, uncontrolled, usually in one direction) and she wants to escape.

So I need to know when shall I go for a walk with her? Very early in the morning? I am not sure how will we go to pee in the evening, but I hope that duration of the firework is limited on some hours or so?

Or another plan... Hike outside CH. Do you know any nice places for walk in some other countries within max 3 hours from ZH (so probably in Germany or Austria)? We would go for a hike there instead of siting in our apartment and listening these "boom, booom, boom" noises.

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Re: August 1 and all that noise

I am personally rather worried about 1 Aug too. It will be the day after my dog's operation and he wont be able to get a long walk beforehand. I am not sure how loud the fireworks will get at our place as its our first SND here. Does anyone know how long the fireworks last?

I'll have to play it by ear but the plan is to move him to a quieter room in the house, put him in his crate and turn up the radio.

Fingers crossed.

Usually for thunderstorms, he gets anxious and barks. But I either turn up the telly or play music to try and drown out the sound and distract him with games of fetch, which he likes. For me, the same theory applies with thunderstorms as when they see something unfamiliar on walks - dont feed the dog's anxiety by trying to sooth them. Just act normally and distract them.
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Or another plan... Hike outside CH. Do you know any nice places for walk in some other countries within max 3 hours from ZH (so probably in Germany or Austria)? We would go for a hike there instead of siting in our apartment and listening these "boom, booom, boom" noises.
I'd recommending going a bit farther than the Bodensee area in Germany. One year we had the bad luck to run into a number of little village fests on the German side in the border towns - out of the frying pan into the (albeit much smaller) fire.

France is usually good if you are up for a drive - choose any picturesque town about half an hour up the Wine Route in Alsace and you'll likely run into a quite a few Swiss dog owner-escapees.

In Austria, the Montafon area is usually nice - but I think there is a festival going on in St Anton this weekend as well.
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Poor doggies, our cats spent the whole night under the coach in the hallway, the one farther form the windows from any direction
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I thought the rain would put an end to the noise but no such luck. I still heard some today which was incredibly annoying.

I'm gonna start looking now for somewhere in Germany next year.
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

just try some rescue drops from bachblüten...you will get them in any drugstore. helps to calm down.
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

Well it's that time of year again fellow pet owners - so time to bump up this thread again, for those who are new to Switzerland since last Swiss National Day.

Be aware that fireworks both public and private will be going on; depending on the level of enthusiasm of your neighbors, normally quiet Switzerland can turn into what sounds like a war zone as your neighbors shoot off howitzers over your garden. It's loud. Very, very loud.

If your pets are bothered by fireworks or any loud unexpected noises, please take precautions. Every year dogs and cats get spooked and run away - and as pointed out upthread, every year some pets end up tragic statistics.

And an FYI, the traditional advice has always been to avoid acknowleding an animal's fear - the thought was that attention is a kind of reward, a reinforcer. However, there is some new thinking on the subject that takes a different tact. So FYI, for anyone whose pets are terrified of Fright Nite (as we call 1 August in our house ), a couple of articles by Patricia McConnell might be of interest:

http://www.patriciamcconnell.com/the...-thunderstorms

http://www.patriciamcconnell.com/the...der-phobia-iii

Keep your critters safe, everyone - and a happy 1 August to you all.
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It's not just the 1st August I'm worried about. Kids in our neighborhood keep letting fireworks off in the fields. With our windows open at this time of year the dogs get seriously spooked. One sets the other off.

I'm all up for positive reinforcement. At the end of the day it's in the dogs nature to respond by barking. After they've barked a few times. I close the window, acknowledge their warning and distract them.

They settle straight away.
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

Hi All
Thanks for all the tips here. After hearing that it will be 34 C on Wednesday, I decided to go somewhere in Germany with my Chica. Sounds like a good thing to do with dogs+kids not so far away from Basel
http://www.steinwasen-park.de/
On the website it says that dogs are welcome! I will call to confirm anyway.
Have a good SND
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The Damascus Hilton is expecting a quieter than average August 1, bookings are significantly down from 2 years ago ....
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The Damascus Hilton is expecting a quieter than average August 1, bookings are significantly down from 2 years ago ....
And we think hotels cost a bomb in Switzerland.
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The fireworks are in full swing by our place and our 10 month old puppy keeps "attacking" our senior mutt who keeps walking/panting/whining in circles. All windows are closed, tv is blaring and were trying to comfort and separate as much as we can. Just going to have to ride it out......it never crossed my mind to head north of the border
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

Here we go again, August 1 is coming.
I am sandwiched between "family traditional outdoor party" and poor pup that terrify of firework.
The solution comes to once the fireworks set up, me and dog will hide in one of family member's basement til they finish the "fun"...
Not the best way i'd go for, but don't want to start a war with the human family neither

Finger & Paw cross for all pooch, have a peaceful 1 August!
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Here we go again, August 1 is coming.
I am sandwiched between "family traditional outdoor party" and poor pup that terrify of firework.
The solution comes to once the fireworks set up, me and dog will hide in one of family member's basement til they finish the "fun"...
Not the best way i'd go for, but don't want to start a war with the human family neither

Finger & Paw cross for all pooch, have a peaceful 1 August!

PS. the family lives in far far reserve small town, pretty much only that one family living there. My sweet in-laws already made an agreement with the rest of family to minimize the fireworks fun to sparkles

PPS. Is there any Kanton confirm to ban firework this year? Look at the rain today, my guess: SG not much chance.....
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Here we go again, August 1 is coming.
My God. Again? How many August 1st are there each year? I can't cope!!
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Re: August 1 and all that noise

We'll be in Germany to give the doggies some rest. If you are unlucky though you find some swiss there that think they have to have even bigger fireworks on the 1st if they are abroad.

From what I've read this year could be one of the loudest fireworks because next year there is a new regulation that limits buying of the big ones to people that have passed some tests.
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