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Recent travel experience - cats from USA to Zurich

Thanks to the people and the posts on the forum, I've successfully traveled from the states to Zurich on Oct 5 with 3 cats, so I guess it's now my turn to share the information and my experience.

1. Rabbies vac need to be completed at least 21 days prior to travel, and it can be the 1-year vac or the 3-year vac as long as the "valid until" date on the health certificate is after your travel date, it's fine. I have 3 cats, two of them are on the 1-yr vac and one of them is on the 3-yr version. The 3-yr version was done back in 2007 and valid until 2010. There was no problem at all with this at customs in Zurich.

2. Health certificate (mine was dated about 2 weeks prior to travel, note that APHIS 7001 is only valid for 30 days): you ONLY NEED THE SWISS HEALTH CERTIFICATE! I used the info on the site and the ones from pettravel.com and got both the Swiss (EU) health cert as well as APHIS 7001. During my trip to the state USDA office, the lady assured me that APHIS 7001 is not needed for the purpose of entering Switzerland. This IS true. At Zurich airport, you would only need the Swiss/EU health cert. However, please note that the airline may have different requirements. I flew Swiss, and Swiss Air needed APHIS 7001 (the agent teared out a carbon copy of APHIS 7001 when I checked in at Chicago).

3. Microchip - all pets need to have chips in them. One of my cats has Homeagain and two of them have AVIS. The reader was able to read the Homeagain chip with no problem at Zurich Airport. We had some problem using the reader for the AVIS chips though, but since I brought my own reader, it was easily taken care of that way. Note on this, the two cats kept on moving, so even with my own reader, it took a couple of tries before the reader was able to read the microchip. Therefore, there are some possibilities that the reader provided by the Zurich Airport may actually read AVIS chips as well. Sorry, I can't confirm on this though. Can only confirm that Homeagain chips (with numbers and letters) are fine with the reader provided in Zurich Airport.

4. Cost - the vet fee is 88 Francs for all three cats together at Zurich Airport. I am not sure if there is an upper limit on the number of animals before the price goes up. But it's definitely not calculated on a per animal basis. I paid cash but I did notice there being a credit/mastro card reader on the counter. The cost on Swiss Air was $200 a piece - so $200 for the two cat in 1 kennel and another $200 for the one cat travelling in cabin with me.

5. The travel!? well, the cats did excellent. I had one in cabin with me and two in the same cage in the hold. After about 12 hours of no food and no water (the two girls in the hold had nothing for >12 hrs, the one in cabin had some water from time to time and some treats), the cats got to Zurich totally fine. Really, much much better than what I've anticipated. So, don't worry~ And, I even managed to get the one in cabin to PURR while in flight from me petting and scratching his neck!

6. Pills - I did not give drugs or anything to the two girls in the hold (better to keep them alert especially in the hold), but did give my cat in cabin with Dramamine (1/4 tablet is the standard dose for cats). The one that went in cabin with me is very very vocal and usually get car sick. To keep him quiet, I gave him 1/2 of a tablet about 3 hours prior to scheduled flight time (he's 15lbs, so 1/2 tablet is OK for him, otherwise, recommended dose is just 1/4). Then, on board the aircraft, I was able to gave him another 1/4 tablet twice - we've used Dramamine on him before during longer distance driving, and for this cat, 1/4 table lasts about 3.5 hours. You might want to consult your vet on the dose though.

7. Kennels & Others - I would highly recommend the Pooch Pad (I got them at Petsmart http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...els+and+Crates) in the carrier. This magically keeps everything dry should accident happens. During our 3-hour drive to Chicago the night before, the cats had some accident in the carrier. While I was able to smell the accident, when I feel the pad, it's completely dry. I unzipped the pad and took the insert out, and the insert was completely dry as well and with no smell or indication of the accident. So we just washed the cover and let it dry overnight. The pooch pads are amazing. Just one thing though, if you get them and are planning on using them in a kennel in the hold, you might want to tape the pad to the kennel because otherwise the pad may shift around due to take off and landings.

The flight attendant was very nice on board and offered water for my cat. It's extremely helpful to have a carrier that has an additional opening in the TOP! since the pet carrier will be placed on the floor, the top opening allows you to pet your cat and give him some extra love when needed. It also allowed me to give drugs to him during the flight. I used "Sturdi Pet Carrier" for the in cabin cat. It's nice to thave that extra top opening and it's very nice as this carrier can bend and almost "shape" to the limited space you have on board. Plus, it's the lightest carrier I was able to find that will still allow my already-15-lb cat to travel in cabin.

Feel free to ask me any question~ and hope you have a good journey with your pets.

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Re: Recent travel experience - cats from USA to Zurich

Glad to hear all went well...

I don't understand why people pay these expensive prices for pet shipping companies when they can travel with their pets for a fraction of the cost.
I flew several different airlines, Swiss being one, when we brought our brood over. And during each flight the cats and dogs did fine. The paperwork is relatively simple to follow. And, You have to arrange the flight to the shortest route and layover. A direct flight is always preferable.

I paid $150.00 per kennel one way. I flew American, Delta and Swiss. At the airport the animals were received in a very friendly and professional manner. When I picked them up at the terminal in Zurich, they were happy to know I didn't ship them off to Siberia.

I was lucky because a couple of times customs just waved me by and didn't ask for a processing/doc fee, or checked them for microchips. Although, I did have microchips implanted in all of them..
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Re: Recent travel experience - cats from USA to Zurich

It's good to hear about the positive experiences that people has, as I will be travelling with my cats in one week. Fortunately my flight will only be from Helsinki to Zürich, thus lasting only about 3 hours.

My cats (2 of them) have to go to the cargo hold as they weight too much (the other is 8-8,5kg ragdoll). And I am mostly worried about how they will manage there. Now I'm basically using my last days here doing some research about the subject in the internet.

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My cats (2 of them) have to go to the cargo hold as they weight too much (the other is 8-8,5kg ragdoll). And I am mostly worried about how they will manage there. Now I'm basically using my last days here doing some research about the subject in the internet.
The hold where the will be placed is heated, lit and they will not be onloaded to the plane until the last minute.

I would take something to calm yourself as I am sure they will be fine.
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Re: Recent travel experience - cats from USA to Zurich

Lo83,

We also have a Ragdoll and he, along with our 4 other cats, made the trip from LA to Zurich(12hrs) with no problem. Because of his relaxed nature, he was not affected much by the trip.

A three hr trip is a cat nap to them...

Safe travels!
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4. Cost - the vet fee is 88 Francs for all three cats together at Zurich Airport. I am not sure if there is an upper limit on the number of animals before the price goes up. But it's definitely not calculated on a per animal basis. I paid cash but I did notice there being a credit/mastro card reader on the counter. The cost on Swiss Air was $200 a piece - so $200 for the two cat in 1 kennel and another $200 for the one cat travelling in cabin with me.
Hi,
Thanks for the tip on the pooch pad; our kennels don't quite fit under the seat though the flight attendants didn't seem to care.
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Who did you fly with?
What is the vet fee at the airport? I've never heard of this. Is it new?
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Re: Recent travel experience - cats from USA to Zurich

I believe she flew with Swiss...

The kennels must fit under the seats. If not, they won't let you keep them in the cabin. Most Serpa models will fit under the seat.

The 88chf is just an admin. fee. But, actually, it's just a way to make some money off of us pet travelers. They really don't do anything but take a quick glance at the paperwork and sometimes scan the pets for chips.
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The hold where the will be placed is heated, lit and they will not be onloaded to the plane until the last minute.

I would take something to calm yourself as I am sure they will be fine.
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Lo83,

We also have a Ragdoll and he, along with our 4 other cats, made the trip from LA to Zurich(12hrs) with no problem. Because of his relaxed nature, he was not affected much by the trip.

A three hr trip is a cat nap to them...

Safe travels!
Good to hear! Fortunately Ragdoll's are usually very relaxed. Maybe I really should get something to calm myself I'll tell you how it went, and how the cats reacted.
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The kennels must fit under the seats. If not, they won't let you keep them in the cabin. Most Serpa models will fit under the seat.

The 88chf is just an admin. fee. But, actually, it's just a way to make some money off of us pet travelers. They really don't do anything but take a quick glance at the paperwork and sometimes scan the pets for chips.
Three years ago, I flew with two cats in the cabin whose kennels were approved but did not in fact fit under the seat.
Also, I never paid anything at the airport. That's why I wonder whether or not the fee is new.
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Re: Recent travel experience - cats from USA to Zurich

Okay....

Things have changed with the airlines. I flew on three different airlines in the last year with our smallest dogs and cats. If the kennel does not fit under the seat, they will be put in the cargo hold.

Not sure about the fee three years ago, but it could have been if you were on a short visit here in CH they waived the admin. fee..... But, it is required to pay the 88chf when you go through customs with your pets. They will scan them to make sure the chip# matches what is on the paperwork, and then take you over to their little kiosk/desk and tell you it will be 88chf...lol!
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Re: Recent travel experience - cats from USA to Zurich

Not sure what fee, if any, there was 3 years ago, but if you go to the Swiss bvet site, it states the 88 CHF fee.

As for the kennel, I was in business class on Swiss Air with the new A333, so there is no way for the carrier to fit under the seat, as there is not really an under-the-seat to begin with. Swiss has the size limitation clearly listed on their website, and as long as the kennel size is within the limitation, you can carry it on board with you. For my cat, the carrier was stored at the closet for takeoff and landing, and on the aisle next to me for the rest of the flight. I believe other airlines have similar guidelines for the size of the kennel, and the kennel must fall within these limits to be brought on board with you.

The reason I flew Swiss is because Swiss has the second highest weight limit for in cabin pet. The limit for Swiss is 8kg or 17.6lbs pet+carrier for in cabin. Delta actually has an even higher limit at 20lbs weight of pet (although I doubt that they actually mean weight of pet + carrier, but you might want to verify...). I didn't fly Delta, b/c driving to Atlanta to fly direct would've been way too far of a drive for the cats anyways, so we drove slightly over 3 hours to fly direct out from Chicago on Swiss and even stayed at a hotel the night before - don't want cats stressing out flying right after being on the car for such a long time... hard to believe I did all these just for the lovely cats, as I have always been a skyteam flyer and a NW/DL high high mileage flyer and I decided to fly Swiss just for the cats.... but you know, they are always your babies....and you just love them too much
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Re: Recent travel experience - cats from USA to Zurich

StandarGirl -

Was your chip a 15-digit Euro chip or was it the standard 10-digit?? Do you know if the 15-digit is required??

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StandarGirl -

Was your chip a 15-digit Euro chip or was it the standard 10-digit?? Do you know if the 15-digit is required??

Thanks,

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None of the three cats of mine have the 15-digit Euro chip. One of them as the homeagain chip (don't remember number of digits, but less than 15 and contains letters and numbers). The homeagain chip scanned at Zurich airport without a problem. The other two cats have AVIS chips (also < 15 digits). The cats kept on moving and it didn't scan, so I gave the inspector my own scanner. It took a few tries on my scanner as well to get their AVIS chips, so I am not sure if the the Zurich airport scanner scans AVIS or not, but it definitely scans the homeagain chips.

Euro chips are NOT required. However, your pet's microchip MUST be readable/scannable at the airport - either with their scanner, or if you provide your scanner. Alternatively, clear tattos or acceptable as well.h
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I'll tell you how it went, and how the cats reacted.
We're in Bern alive! Cats did really well. I could see when they put them to the cargo hold and when they were taken away from there in Zürich. The cats were in the baggage claim really fast, even faster than my luggage and the cat toilet. We did have some obstacles in the beginning though as our cat booking had disappeared even though I checked it yesterday with Finnair at the same time when I upgraded myself to business (to get more kg's ). But for some reason the guy who did the upgrading forgot the cats anyways.

Finally we did get the cats onboard quite easily. There were just two guys that came to check the boxes (and I had to take the cats out) and took the cats, and then I had to go to pay 180€ for them. I almost got it for 140€ because of a really nice lady at the business check-in, but then the other lady increased the amount to 180€ (18kg x 10€/kg).

In Zürich the older cat seemed a bit silent (read: mad at what he had to experience) but the younger was really relaxed. And now that we're home, they are both really relaxed already In the customs they wanted to see the passports, and asked the usual (are they new etc.) and let us go. No checking the chips or paying 88chf
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Re: Recent travel experience - cats from USA to Zurich

Having moved to Zurich last week with my 3 cats, I'd like to add to this, as well...

1) If you're coming from the US, you don't need the APHIS 7001 - that's only if you're going into the US. What you will need is the domestic health certificate, which allows you onto the plane initially, and that's only good for a week. (Which means that you'll have to go to the vet within a week of travel. Fun.)

2) The Swiss/EU health certificate is good for 4 months, but they do prefer that it's done at least 30 days in advance. So that's an additional vet visit, at least 30 days prior to travel. Also, this health certificate has to be reviewed and processed by the USDA, so give yourself time for that. (You can either mail the paperwork to the USDA, or find your nearest office and make an appointment to hand-deliver it. I chose the latter, and it took all of 20 minutes to have everything signed and stamped.)

3) We flew Lufthansa, and the flight attendants said they had no access to pets in baggage, so they couldn't check on them or give them water, but we got a good tip from the cat-baggage-handlers at the airport (too late, of course): if you fill the cat's water dish about halfway and freeze it the night before, then let it sit out for a bit to thaw a tiny bit, when you put it in the cage, the cat will have a little water to lap at, all day long.

Other than that, Standardgirl's post was VERY helpful and reassuring... =)
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Re: Recent travel experience - cats from USA to Zurich

Just like to add as I recently got asked, this (http://www.sturdiproducts.com/4111/x...4&cat=1&page=1) is the lightest weight airline compliant pet carrier I found online (it's on the expensive side, you if you have big cat who's at the maximum weight limit to go in the cabin, this 2lbs 7oz carrier may be worth the price...). I used this exact one for my cat that went in cabin with me and quite liked it. It also goes perfectly with the Pooch Pad. The carrier has an extra opening on the top (as you can see from the picture). The top opening allowed me to pet my cat and to give him water during the flight. Imagine you sitting in your seat and the cat carrier on the floor, having just the normal side entry door won't be as convienent, and that's why the top opening was really nice for the flight.
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This post has been very helpful to me as we will be traveling over from the US to Zurich in early August with our two cats. Ideally, we would like to keep them in the cabins with us. It does seem like Delta has the best "rules" and more flexibility about the weight of the cat. I am going to look into that carrier posted. However, does anyone know if we can put both cats in the same carrier under the seat? I just think they would be more comfortable if together.

For those that went recently -can you please share your experiences? I know they have to first be microchipped, and then complete the necessary shots. I'm expecting a CHF 88 fee upon arrival. Is this per cat or for both? Are there any other fees when we arrive that anyone else has experienced? And if I understand correctly, we have to find a vet within 10 days (?) of being in the country to register them. Perhaps.

Does anyone have information or experience upon bringing the cats back INTO the USA after our years abroad? Thanks everyone!
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However, does anyone know if we can put both cats in the same carrier under the seat? I just think they would be more comfortable if together.
Have a look to the plenty of info in internet about how to transport your cats when travelling, but I remember when preparing myself to move my two cats within Europe, I found out it was not advisable to carry two cats in 1 carrier even if they usually get along well. When travelling the kitties are out of their normal enviroment and may get anxious and even agressive between them. I think if you travel with someone else, you may carry each of you a cage and they could be looking at each other. Not sure about other seats, but tourism, there is not space for the kitties carrier in the floor and they need to be on top of you, which is not the most confortable situation specially for a long flight.

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Have a look to the plenty of info in internet about how to transport your cats when travelling, but I remember when preparing myself to move my two cats within Europe, I found out it was not advisable to carry two cats in 1 carrier even if they usually get along well. When travelling the kitties are out of their normal enviroment and may get anxious and even agressive between them. I think if you travel with someone else, you may carry each of you a cage and they could be looking at each other. Not sure about other seats, but tourism, there is not space for the kitties carrier in the floor and they need to be on top of you, which is not the most confortable situation specially for a long flight.

All the best with your move!
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This post has been very helpful to me as we will be traveling over from the US to Zurich in early August with our two cats. Ideally, we would like to keep them in the cabins with us. It does seem like Delta has the best "rules" and more flexibility about the weight of the cat. I am going to look into that carrier posted. However, does anyone know if we can put both cats in the same carrier under the seat? I just think they would be more comfortable if together.

For those that went recently -can you please share your experiences? I know they have to first be microchipped, and then complete the necessary shots. I'm expecting a CHF 88 fee upon arrival. Is this per cat or for both? Are there any other fees when we arrive that anyone else has experienced? And if I understand correctly, we have to find a vet within 10 days (?) of being in the country to register them. Perhaps.

Does anyone have information or experience upon bringing the cats back INTO the USA after our years abroad? Thanks everyone!
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