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Old 21.05.2007, 15:38
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Ticks - Dog related

My dog is currently attracting 1 tick per walk, and the jar I've been sticking them in is beginning to fill up.
I've been doing some reading and it seems that ticks are a real problem in certain areas of Switzerland, ZH for me. However every walk !!!

Currently I brush him as soon as he gets back in the house, and I try to make sure he goes for a swim every walk to try and drown the little sods, but does anyone have any other tips on how to cope with ticks.

Keeping him on the lead is a last resort.
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Old 21.05.2007, 15:40
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A collar or a treatment. The ticks are making it further and further north.
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Old 21.05.2007, 15:46
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Re: Ticks - Dog related

I know how you feel on this. Our Bernese is getting plenty of the little buggers.

I found that the stuff that you can buy over the counter (Frontline) didn't help very much at all with ticks or fleas. The stuff that you buy from the vets seems to do a better job but even then he still picks some up - just not as many. I find that best way to get rid of them is to put them in a piece of paper and set a light to it. Mind-you, if you put a lit match, cigarette, etc to their back end, they make a really pleasing popping noise
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Re: Ticks - Dog related

www.dogforums.com would probably be the best forum to ask about general dog-related issues.

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Re: Ticks - Dog related

You need an "s" on the hyperlink Mark, its going to the wrong place at the mo.

Will look at getting a collar, since the flea/tick stuff I'm putting on him now isn't really working.
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Old 21.05.2007, 16:24
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You need an "s" on the hyperlink Mark, its going to the wrong place at the mo.

Will look at getting a collar, since the flea/tick stuff I'm putting on him now isn't really working.
If ticks are a problem for your dog, they can also be a problem for you. They've recently come out with a vaccine for Lime disease, which has no cure. If anybody does a lot of hiking I would highly recommend talking to your doctor about getting the vaccine as ticks seem to be more of a problem this year.
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Re: Ticks - Dog related

By coincidence I've just come back from the vet, where he gave my Dobe something called Advantix. He explained to me that Frontline repels ticks from the dog's skin, whereas this is supposed to make their fur unpleasant for intruders. Let's see how it works...
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Old 21.05.2007, 18:34
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Re: Ticks - Dog related

There is a jab available from the vets for Borreliosis. I'd highly recommend this as we nearly lost our dog through it. There are lots of areas in the Zurich region where the ticks carry this disease.
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There is a jab available from the vets for Borreliosis. I'd highly recommend this as we nearly lost our dog through it. There are lots of areas in the Zurich region where the ticks carry this disease.
It's not only animals who are affected. Humans also can contract lime disease and now that there is a vaccine against it for people, anybody who does a lot of hiking especially with an animal should get vaccinated against it.
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Re: Ticks - Dog related

Due to the unusually warm winter, this year is expected to be especially bad throughout Switzerland for ticks and the diseases they carry. Even if you don't usually use tick preventatives, you should consider doing so this season. Which treatment you chose is best discussed with your vet, as some of the medications are not appropriate for certain dogs.

For info on which areas in Switzerland which are considered high risk:

http://www.zecken.ch/Karten/karten.html

And of course, a dog should be thoroughly checked every day.

To remove ticks, I use a tick puller that looks like a tweezer - a Zeckenpinscher, available in any pet store like Fresnapf or Qualipet - I've tried just about every remedy know to man, and IME this does the best job. Grasp the tick body with the points, twist and pull - tick comes out with a minimum of fuss. You have to be careful to get the head out as well - if you leave the head under the skin a rather nasty infection can develop.

Also, it is best to use thin rubber gloves to avoid as much contact with your skin as possible.

(I really don't recommend using a match/cigarette. There are more effective ways that don't involve accidentally setting yourself or your dog on fire... )

This is a very serious issue in Switzerland this year - symptoms of Lyme Borreliose are wandering lameness, arthritis-like stiffness, fever, loss of appetite, dehydration, lethargy, swollen lymph nodes, and paralyse. If your dog has been bitten by a number of ticks, or if he/she shows any of the symptoms, please have the Lyme test done. It's a simple blood test, done by your vet. (Note that these symptoms could point to a number of other conditions as well.)
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Old 21.05.2007, 21:56
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Due to the unusually warm winter, this year is expected to be especially bad throughout Switzerland for ticks and the diseases they carry. Even if you don't usually use tick preventatives, you should consider doing so this season. Which treatment you chose is best discussed with your vet, as some of the medications are not appropriate for certain dogs.

For info on which areas in Switzerland which are considered high risk:

http://www.zecken.ch/Karten/karten.html

And of course, a dog should be thoroughly checked every day.

To remove ticks, I use a tick puller that looks like a tweezer - a Zeckenpinscher, available in any pet store like Fresnapf or Qualipet - I've tried just about every remedy know to man, and IME this does the best job. Grasp the tick body with the points, twist and pull - tick comes out with a minimum of fuss. You have to be careful to get the head out as well - if you leave the head under the skin a rather nasty infection can develop.

Also, it is best to use thin rubber gloves to avoid as much contact with your skin as possible.

(I really don't recommend using a match/cigarette. There are more effective ways that don't involve accidentally setting yourself or your dog on fire... )

This is a very serious issue in Switzerland this year - symptoms of Lyme Borreliose are wandering lameness, arthritis-like stiffness, fever, loss of appetite, dehydration, lethargy, swollen lymph nodes, and paralyse. If your dog has been bitten by a number of ticks, or if he/she shows any of the symptoms, please have the Lyme test done. It's a simple blood test, done by your vet. (Note that these symptoms could point to a number of other conditions as well.)
Just want to back up what melonchollie said, esp people, if you have been bitten and have any odd side affects,,, please get them checked out!!

I'm not that squemish as a rule but Ticks give me the creeps!! Our cat gets them as well..

I have used those tweezers as well but, apart from almost throwing up, I was worried if I got everything out...

Our silly old Moggie got another one just a couple of weeks ago, so instead of tweezing, I tried another method.

I am a bit into essential oils and so forth and in more than one of my books, I saw that, by applying the Thyme essential oil with a cotton bud, directly onto the Tick, it will kill it... It really worked, just dried up over a couple of days and I could rub it away.

If you do Tweeze it,,, it must hurt the poor things,, one drop of Lavender oil applied directly to the wound,every five minutes, to a total of ten will disinfect,relieve pain, swelling and possibly any other complications.

This works for people as well. But again, after being bitten,, any side affects, please go to the doctor.

Not to be underestimated,,, prevention being better than the cure,
cover up in the woods where possible...

P.S. the same books didn't discount the old cigarrette trick, lighters might be a bit tricky tho...


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Old 22.05.2007, 11:32
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Re: Ticks - Dog related

The safest way to get rid of a tick is the tweezer. The application of benzine, fire or aetheric oils might cause the tick to vomit under the skin and thereby increases the infection risk. Just tweeze them near the head and pull them out without twisting.

Ticks like the warmer body regions with good blood circulation, for example the hollow of the knee or the groin. Wearing closed shoes and high socks or long pants when wandering in a risk area decreases the risk to catch ticks.

My ex trombone teacher once discovered a tick infection by his student because he had a subtle paralysis near his mouth.
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Re: Ticks - Dog related

Just as an update.

Used to use a product called Stronghold to control fleas, ticks etc. When I went to my vet (fruit loop of a man, but bloody nice as well) he threw Stronghold in the bin and gave me Advantix250.
He also gave my dog an injection against The evil Zecken (ticks), which I stupidly forgot to ask exactly what it was called.
Anyway since then my dog has had no, zero ticks (touch wood) which considering the number I'd pulled off him before is nothing short of a miracle.

If anyone knows what the injection was; or is curious I will ask him next time I see him
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He also gave my dog an injection against The evil Zecken (ticks), which I stupidly forgot to ask exactly what it was called.

Are you sure the injection was to prevent ticks and not to prevent encephilitis or one of the other nasty things they can carry?

Our count this week was 3 ticks, all dead due to Spot On .
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Are you sure the injection was to prevent ticks and not to prevent encephilitis or one of the other nasty things they can carry?

Our count this week was 3 ticks, all dead due to Spot On .
yeah sorry, it wasn't to prevent ticks, it was a vaccination against whatever nasty stuff they are carrying.
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Re: Ticks - Dog related

we have been using frontline since 7 years for our dogs..here and in the us.
it does not prevent the ticks from going on the dogs. the tick starts sucking their blood and then dies . works very well for us.
our vet in the us told us, that frontline and advantix are the same..i guess it just depends on your vet which ever product he wants to sell.
as for us humans, you just have to check yourself every day for ticks as well.
i live in germany and my whole family, including the kids got a vacination
FSME. not for lyme disease, that is why you still have to check.
there are also some natural sprays or oils out there that you can put on you dogs fur. some of my friends said that it did help repell the ticks some did not.
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Old 15.06.2007, 15:50
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just for info
ticks are really bad here this year near Kloten. every time we get back we are finding the little sods. tweezers work but will try some of ths other stuff.
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Re: Ticks - Dog related

You think dogs are a problem? I just found my first tick on a child. Children make a lot more noise when you have to pull the ticks off... it was behind the ear.

The vaccine for lime disease sounds useful, but I would be much more interested in a vaccine against noisey children.
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Senility is a terrible thing. I just want you to know that before I mention the following which I am absolutely sure I mentioned before in another thread but buggered if I can find it now. Or maybe I didn't.

Anyway, how to remove ticks.

Get some tweezers, not sharp ones but the ones with little spoon shapes at the end. These are the only ones that work. Do not use the crappy plastic retracting things.

Place the tweezers over the tick making sure that all the tick except the bit stuck in your mutt is inside the spoons.

Rotate gently anti-clockwise.

The tick will loosen it's grip and come out whole.
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Re: Ticks - Dog related

Hi,

Check out this link http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Dogs-Switzerland. I recommend joining the group. There is a huge amount of information here, particularly lately on ticks.

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