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Mrs T 06.07.2010 14:51

How can I stop my dog going to my neighbours?
 
Does anyone know of a way to stop our puppy going into our neighbour's garden?

Our neighbour has a dog too and this is what is attracting our little feller, he wants to play... but for some reason the neighbour doesn't want him there, (he doesn't poop or pee there or anything like that) There is a fence up already between the two properties but he's still small so he can climb under it.

Yesterday, he was really drunk and made an abusive loooong phone call threatening to call the police etc..., then he sent texts saying he was calling his lawyer and blah drunk blah... I know he can't really do anything about it but this morning the pup went to theirs and when my son went to get him, he threw the pup at my son :eek::mad:

We live in the countryside and although there is the fence between the two properties, nothing else is fenced, so there are lots of ways for him to get to their property. We don't want to go to the expense of fencing everything in, and anyway we like the open space around us.

Is there some way of discouraging the pup from going there? A repellant scent or something else? I'm afraid our neighbour will hurt him, he's already tied up (on a very long leash) when ever he's in the garden, the poor little thing... :(

Angela-74 06.07.2010 14:53

Re: How can I stop my dog going to my neighbours?
 
poor puppy. what is wrong with neighbors lately?
am afraid I can not give you anyideas but fencing the whole thing :(
or putting something like a mesh also if fence does not work?

Sorry!

06.07.2010 14:56

Re: How can I stop my dog going to my neighbours?
 
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Originally Posted by Mrs T (Post 868534)
Our neighbour has a dog too and this is what is attracting our little feller, he wants to play...

poison the neighbours dog ;)

summerrain 06.07.2010 14:57

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Until he masters the recall command, the puppy really shouldnt be out in the garden unsupervised or even on a long lead.

Putting a young dog on a long lead with another dog in the vicinity is like putting alcohol in front of an alcoholic and saying "no, you arent having any of that!"

A young pup is already easily excitable, with another 4 legged companion in the vicinity, there is no way to control him not going over, unless you've got him well trained.

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Originally Posted by Angela-74 (Post 868538)
poor puppy. what is wrong with neighbors lately?

I think its the heat Ange :)

Upthehatters2008 06.07.2010 14:58

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Originally Posted by AliAhmedAdnan (Post 868543)
poison the neighbours... ;)

Fixed that for you...

Mrs T 06.07.2010 15:02

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Originally Posted by summerrain (Post 868546)
Until he masters the recall command, the puppy really shouldnt be out in the garden unsupervised or even on a long lead.

He is only out when we are out ourselves but because he's so fast (runs at impressive speeds!) we have to tie him up or he'll be over to the neighbour's in a flash. He comes when we call him but it's already too late, he's already over there ... :(

Upthehatters2008 06.07.2010 15:02

Re: How can I stop my dog going to my neighbours?
 
Invite the neighbours dog round to play in your garden ?
Might warm up the frosty feelings...

Cashboy 06.07.2010 15:06

Re: How can I stop my dog going to my neighbours?
 
Suggest a Korean Barbeque; everyone to bring their own meat.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...oID=2024444199

Mrs T 06.07.2010 15:06

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Originally Posted by Upthehatters2008 (Post 868555)
Invite the neighbours dog round to play in your garden ?
Might warm up the frosty feelings...

Ha! I did!:) He doesn't want to...

In fact, before the fence went up (before our pup arrived) their 2 (at the time) dogs always came over to ours and into the house, I never complained.

The problem is that this man drinks a lot, so I'm afraid we're not dealing with the most logical of people, he can be very nice and kind, and then suddenly turn very sour...

jrspet 06.07.2010 15:06

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Would using a sprinkler be of any help to deter him ?

Just read this :)

Upthehatters2008 06.07.2010 15:09

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Originally Posted by Mrs T (Post 868564)
Ha! I did!:) He doesn't want to...

In fact, before the fence went up (before our pup arrived) their 2 (at the time) dogs always came over to ours and into the house, I never complained.

The problem is that this man drinks a lot, so I'm afraid we're not dealing with the most logical of people, he can be very nice and kind, and then suddenly turn very sour...


Maybe put a barrel of spirits around your puppy's collar, a la St Bernard style... He will be more than welcome to see the puppy then :D

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:-...ith_barrel.JPG

summerrain 06.07.2010 15:11

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Originally Posted by Mrs T (Post 868554)
He is only out when we are out ourselves but because he's so fast (runs at impressive speeds!) we have to tie him up or he'll be over to the neighbour's in a flash. He comes when we call him but it's already too late he's already over there ... :(

Whilst it was totally wrong of your neighbour to have thrown the dog but it is your responsibility to make sure that your pet does not make a nuisance of itself.

You cant feel sorry for the little fella being on the leash, in his own garden because fact is, he simply cannot behave himself off-leash, which is why he needs to be on the leash. And that is totally understandable why he is not listening to you much as he is a young, excitable little thing who just wants to meet every dog. He will learn in time (mostly on walks) that not everyone (humans and older dogs alike) will like bouncy little things like him. He needs much more training before he is allowed off lead, even in the your own garden.

Meanwhile, you can try to calm his state of mind even before letting him into the garden. Make sure he is sitting, tail down, and not excitable before even being let out. Have him sit beside you at all times and correct him whenever he gets excitable. Treat whenever he sits and he will soon learn that he gets rewarded for being in a certain position.

I will also go over and explain to the neighbour, explaining that your little fella is in training, and whilst you are sorry for the nuisance, to please stop man (dog?)handling your pet.

06.07.2010 15:22

Re: How can I stop my dog going to my neighbours?
 
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Originally Posted by Mrs T (Post 868534)
Does anyone know of a way to stop our puppy going into our neighbour's garden?

Our neighbour has a dog too and this is what is attracting our little feller, he wants to play... but for some reason the neighbour doesn't want him there, (he doesn't poop or pee there or anything like that) There is a fence up already between the two properties but he's still small so he can climb under it.

Yesterday, he was really drunk and made an abusive loooong phone call threatening to call the police etc..., then he sent texts saying he was calling his lawyer and blah drunk blah... I know he can't really do anything about it but this morning the pup went to theirs and when my son went to get him, he threw the pup at my son :eek::mad:

We live in the countryside and although there is the fence between the two properties, nothing else is fenced, so there are lots of ways for him to get to their property. We don't want to go to the expense of fencing everything in, and anyway we like the open space around us.

Is there some way of discouraging the pup from going there? A repellant scent or something else? I'm afraid our neighbour will hurt him, he's already tied up (on a very long leash) when ever he's in the garden, the poor little thing... :(

It's your dog, your responsibility to keep it from going to the neighbour. I'd buy one of these plastic mesh fences.

I wouldn't like if any dog (neighbour or not) wandered around my garden. I wouldn't like that even more if I had a dog, because I had the unpleasant opportunity to see how it can end.

It doesn't change the fact that the neighbour is the asshole for the way he treated your pup (throwing). There are more civilised ways of solving this problem.

Mrs T 06.07.2010 15:23

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Originally Posted by summerrain (Post 868573)
He needs much more training before he is allowed off lead, even in the your own garden.

Exactly, he's only 4 months old, and we've only had him a few weeks, and the problem of going to the neighbour's only started since the good weather arrived... if only the neighbour had a little patience.

I think I'll try putting something that smells bad like vinegar or ammonia where he usually passes and see if that helps.

openid 06.07.2010 15:23

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Ok, I can think of 2 solutions:
1. Tie you idiot neighbour with a chain and let him bark ;) [do not forget to feed some Alcohol]
2. Give me your puppy :D

Mrs T 06.07.2010 15:27

Re: How can I stop my dog going to my neighbours?
 
:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by 5AVeci (Post 868589)
It's your dog, your responsibility to keep it from going to the neighbour. I'd buy one of these plastic mesh fences.

Is that very light-weight? It looks light, is that enough to stop the dog?

I wouldn't mind, but if you saw our pup, he's only a little fluffy toy, not even 2kgs:rolleyes:

06.07.2010 15:30

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Originally Posted by Mrs T (Post 868601)
Is that very light-weight? It looks light, is that enough to stop the dog?

They come in many variations. The one on the image was just a nice example for this thread :)
You need a temporary solution that will cover part of you 'standard' fence. Google the images for: plastic mesh (or wire) fence. You can most likely buy it in Jumbo, Migros Garden, etc.

Cashboy 06.07.2010 15:32

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Originally Posted by Mrs T (Post 868601)
:rolleyes:

Is that very light-weight? It looks light, is that enough to stop the dog?

I wouldn't mind, but if you saw our pup, he's only a little fluffy toy, not even 2kgs:rolleyes:

Try this; I think this would keep your dog in and the neighbour out.
http://www.esfl.co.nz/esfl.swf

and this:

summerrain 06.07.2010 15:41

Re: How can I stop my dog going to my neighbours?
 
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Originally Posted by Mrs T (Post 868591)
Exactly, he's only 4 months old, and we've only had him a few weeks, and the problem of going to the neighbour's only started since the good weather arrived... if only the neighbour had a little patience.

I think I'll try putting something that smells bad like vinegar or ammonia where he usually passes and see if that helps.

Dont take this the wrong way, I hope I am not coming across as lecturing you but at four months, he should NEVER be let off the lead and your sight. Yes, even inside the house - let alone outside. I'll give you an example: I brought my dog home when he was around that age too - due to toilet training as well, he was leashed to me at all times - both inside and outside the house. The crate came in handy when I was in the loo or night time.

I tell him where to go, what to do, when to eat and pee. It sounds like I am a control freak but dogs, especially puppies, thrive on rules. I've said before, that puppies are hardwired to follow a pack leader and they dont gain anything if we feel sorry for them.

Putting bad smells might deter the dog but I think the longer term and much more effective solution is to keep him on a leash till he is better trained. Ammonia and vinegar will not be as effective as your presence and commands. Plus, wouldnt ammonia be harmful to a curious puppy whose body functions arent fully developed? :msnshock:

Phil_MCR 06.07.2010 15:46

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put him on a leash that is short enough.

J.L-P 06.07.2010 16:01

Re: How can I stop my dog going to my neighbours?
 
As Summerain has said the pup is a baby and must be watched at all times.

Remember, he hasn't been away from a litter environment for that long and depending on the breeder he might come from a really big group and longs for that kind of company (I've one of those).

And if you've a little Alpha on your hands (g. forbid, see dog above) marking is their life.

Btw, I tried a mustard based spray from Qualipet- it was a total waste chf's.

Mrs T 06.07.2010 16:04

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Originally Posted by summerrain (Post 868619)
Dont take this the wrong way, I hope I am not coming across as lecturing you

Don't worry, I'm not :)

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but at four months, he should NEVER be let off the lead and your sight...
I agree, and while I don't leash him in the house, he's always on a leash outdoors, but unfortunately accidents happen, for example, this morning my son came in from outside and didn't close the door, it was too good an opportunity for pooch:o

gata 06.07.2010 16:08

Re: How can I stop my dog going to my neighbours?
 
The only way in my opinion is to have him tied up. A bit harsh for a puppy but it will keep him in out of the neighbours garden and who knows what a drunk neighbour might do

Plau Deri 06.07.2010 16:43

Re: How can I stop my dog going to my neighbours?
 
Puppy-proofing a garden is quite a gargantuan task. Puppies will definitely find every last hole to slip through, no matter, how microscopicly small it might be.

If you can't puppy-proof the whole of your garden, you could build a smaller enclosure, where the puppy can play freely with a ball and/or with you. ~20 meters of chicken-wire or the plastic-mesh mentioned above and four poles can easily be set up and taken down again and won't break the bank to acquire.

I'd still strongly advise against leaving the puppy outside unsupervised, though. Murphy's laws double-apply to puppies imo.

Have fun :)

Phil_MCR 06.07.2010 16:47

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Originally Posted by gata (Post 868670)
The only way in my opinion is to have him tied up. A bit harsh for a puppy but it will keep him in out of the neighbours garden and who knows what a drunk neighbour might do

if you tie him to the other end, he could still have free run of most of the garden, so perhaps not that bad.

meloncollie 06.07.2010 17:44

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'Good fences make good neighbors'... and good dog owners. :)

Your puppy needs a secure environment to learn in, to practice all the skills you will be teaching. He's not ready for the world at large yet - he needs a safe space, so that he can be a puppy. And that's a fenced-in garden.

Nothing other than a physical barrier will keep a determined dog on his property, if the incentive to roam is great enough. Forget sprays, etc. They don't work.

And bear in mind: dogs have been killed when on walkabout.

A safe fenced-in area is almost essential in training a good recall; it's hard to find such a space in public areas, so fencing in your garden would make training much easier.

As others have said, you don't need to go to great expense - we have 120cm (max height allowed) green wire fencing from Landi (or was it Coop?); my husband installed it in a day or two.

A secure escape-proof fence is also the single best savior of owner sanity. ;) I can stumble out my back door half asleep at the crack of dawn to let the mutts out, knowing they can't come to any harm. My ancient deaf guy can bumble about and enjoy a bit of freedom, something he could not do if the area was not fenced - as he cannot hear me to call him in. My Hooligan can run to her heart's content, safe from the things that she finds hard to deal with. A good fence makes dog ownership so much easier; I need our fence as much as the dogs do. :D

Most importantly, my neighbors know that my mutts will never be able to intrude on their property; this alone has salvaged our relationship. They may not like the fact that I have multiple mutts, but they cannot complain. At least on that score. ;)

A dog owner is responsible for any damage his/her dog might do; for that reason alone it is imperative that our dogs are not allowed to trespass on other people's property.

And don't forget - a good fence not only keeps your dog in, but also keeps other things out... you don't want other dogs, children passing by, wandering cats, etc. interfering with your puppy.

So - invite some friends round for a BBQ and fencing party - and keep the little one safe.



FYI - having searched in vain for a post hole digger when we were putting up our fence (did it the hard way!), I've now seen them at Hornbach, quite a good value at around CHF 60. A post hole digger makes fence stringing a whole lot easier and faster.

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ETA: At the risk of stating the obvious, if you use a long line it should only be attached to a halter, never to a collar. You risk neck injury otherwise.


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