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Travelling Safely with a Dog in Your Car

Hello Dog Owners with Cars!
Are there specific Swiss regulations about how your dog must be secured in your car?
Has anyone had experience using a dog harness (attached to a seat belt in the back of the car)?
Unfortunately we have a not-very-dog-friendly BMW 5 series saloon car. Anyone know if there is a solution that might apply to such a car? Short of buying a new car, that is!

Our dog, currently almost 6 months old, a rescue dog (no particular breed), will probably end up a 'slim medium' in terms of size. Right now, we can't really take her on journeys. We have done a couple of very short trips with me as the front passenger with her sat between my feet, but obviously not an option for proper journeys.
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Re: Travelling Safely with a Dog in Your Car

craddle in the back or the fence so she stays in the trunk. Thats how I always did it with the bigger dogs.

My new little dog sits in the back seat and I tie his leach to the seatbelt.
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Re: Travelling Safely with a Dog in Your Car

Though I know you personnally and could answer to you directly () I post my answer here for everybody's benefit:

- there is no specific law in CH about what you're supposed to do with your dog in a car

For safety reasons, it's strongly advised to place the doggie in a crate. You can also buy safety short leashs that you 'plug' in the normal safety belt lockets (readily available in most petshops).

Now, as you have a child, my Brownie's trainer advised to avoid letting the dog going on the front seat, since your child is in his carseat in the back, and it's not very good for the 'hierarchy' within your family.
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Old 20.08.2010, 12:54
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Re: Travelling Safely with a Dog in Your Car

Check out this thread:
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Lots of useful advice. I am not sure if there are strict laws but the dog must not be in a position where it hampers / will distract you from your driving. I interpret that as them needing to be securely harnessed.

Qualipet is where you should head. Ask for "ceinture de securite pour chiens" (in Lausanne I am assuming) http://www.qualipet.ch/content/onlin...index_ger.html

I have a similar car to yours and I invested in a harness (similar to the link above) and dog seat cover (the big Migros do sell them slight bit cheaper than Qualipet) to prevent too much fur on the seats. You cant see from this picture (taken from the front passenger seat) but he has a seatbelt harness and not too happy about it. That seat cover saves me hours of hoovering the car though.

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Old 20.08.2010, 12:58
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M dog is in a crate (travel box), and I also put a special plastic to cover the back seat.

Actually, the plastic is as useful against the dog's hairs as againt my son's dirty shoes
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craddle in the back or the fence so she stays in the trunk.
Is it possible to get a fence/guard for a saloon car, so she can sit in the boot? My research (so far) shows loads of devices for estates/ hatchbacks only.

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For safety reasons, it's strongly advised to place the doggie in a crate.
Just wondered about crates, would it be the same thing you buy your dog if you are doing 'crate training'? You then just put it onto the seat at the back?? I am trying to visualise how it would fit into the back seat of our car....Wouldn't it be too large to get in through the door? Our girl is approx 46cm high and 72 cm long (as of now). Thanks!
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Is it possible to get a fence/guard for a saloon car, so she can sit in the boot? My research (so far) shows loads of devices for estates/ hatchbacks only.


Just wondered about crates, would it be the same thing you buy your dog if you are doing 'crate training'? You then just put it onto the seat at the back?? I am trying to visualise how it would fit into the back seat of our car....Wouldn't it be too large to get in through the door? Our girl is approx 46cm high and 72 cm long (as of now). Thanks!

ha I didnt read sallon part. IN that case there is this cover you can buy that basically covers up the complete back seat etc .

http://www.google.ch/imgres?imgurl=h...w=1584&bih=668
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Hello Dog Owners with Cars!
Unfortunately we have a not-very-dog-friendly BMW 5 series saloon car. Anyone know if there is a solution that might apply to such a car? Short of buying a new car, that is!
Check out http://www.championswitzerland.com I am sure they can help you.
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Old 20.08.2010, 13:31
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Re: Travelling Safely with a Dog in Your Car

Tuesday night this very week I attended a dog training class (?!) and the instructor told us, that you will face a CHF 700 fine if a dog is not safely secured in the car by means of one of these:

Box/crate
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"Fence" between back room and back seat (in a combi).
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Tuesday night this very week I attended a dog training class (?!) and the instructor told us, that you will face a CHF 700 fine if a dog is not safely secured in the car by means of one of these:

Box/crate
Harness
"Fence" between back room and back seat (in a combi).
My instructor, who is also a policeman working with a police dog, clearly told me that there was no official regulation about transporting a dog in a car in CH?!?
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Old 20.08.2010, 16:30
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My instructor, who is also a policeman working with a police dog, clearly told me that there was no official regulation about transporting a dog in a car in CH?!?

Typical Switzerland; different answers from different people - even more complicated with different Kantons & the possibility of different rules in each Kanton.

My 2 dogs are small (less than 8 Kilos each) & sleep on the floor in front of the front passenger seat.
I have a couple of short lengths of dog lead around the door pull attached to their collars so they cannot run around in the car; installed since the time I got stopped by the Police & they both jumped on my knee & barked at the officer of the Law. Luckily he saw the funny side.

One important point is to ensure they are not somewhere where they would be crushed by an airbag in case of an accident.
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Re: Travelling Safely with a Dog in Your Car

There are two things to consider, yours (and the passengers' safety) and the dog's safety.

Putting a crate on the back seat doesn't seem to be a good idea to me as in a crash the dog and cage will come crashing into the front injuring the front passengers, and the dog.

Similarly in a crate in the back of a Kombi, the dog can be thrown forwards quite a way (Maybe 20 cm ) before coming to a hard stop! I haven't seen a proper approved padded crate yet, maybe I need to design one, with straps that will clip into the seat belt buckles on the back seat, or the floor shackles in the Kombi.

To me the obvious place is on the floor in the front footwell, but how can you keep the dog there? Maybe in a soft bed placed between the front passenger's feet? But then in a bad crash the engine is pushed back and passengers often receive foot injuries.

In a serious crash people can be injured badly from the seat belt, the same applies to the animal, and I would think the standard doggie 2 loop body harness is useless, or worse.

So the long answer is I don't know how you can protect the dog and the passengers.
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Old 20.08.2010, 16:57
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Re: Travelling Safely with a Dog in Your Car

Don't know what the law is, but we travel a lot by car with our Jack Russell. We have a station wagon/kombi, so our dog rides in the back in her crate that is strapped down to avoid it from shifting around.
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My instructor, who is also a policeman working with a police dog, clearly told me that there was no official regulation about transporting a dog in a car in CH?!?
I am going to a practical training tomorrow and will ask the guy again.
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May I just say... What a dolly! Is he a cairn terrier?


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Similarly in a crate in the back of a Kombi, the dog can be thrown forwards quite a way (Maybe 20 cm ) before coming to a hard stop! I haven't seen a proper approved padded crate yet, maybe I need to design one, with straps that will clip into the seat belt buckles on the back seat, or the floor shackles in the Kombi.
I have an Opel Combo and I was using a large dog crate that I can attach with straps to the hooks. I have two foam dog beds inside the crate. Between the cargo section where the cage is and the back seat I have a mesh grate.

I bought a dog harness for the back seat, but my dog hated it so that was the end of the that. She loves to be in a bed in a car. It looks like the picture in the attachment. For the back seat I think this would be better than nothing if your only choice is the back seat in the case of a saloon car. Of course it is best to put something on the seats to protect them as well and a blanket so the dog is comfortable.
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Re: Travelling Safely with a Dog in Your Car

We bought a kombi (station wagon to me) figuring that a dog box would fit in the back. We were wrong!!! There is no standard dog box that fits in the back of an Alfa 159 wagon except for the verplast atlas 80. But my dog doesn't fit in the atlas 80. In the US we had sedans (saloons?) So... I have the champion seat belt and harness from the US and we use that, sometimes with the champion harness or with another harness. The Champion harness is really quite heavy, they say it can also be used for walking the dog, but that doesn't work for us. I have a large wedge -shaped foam pillow that I fit between the back of the front seat and the back seat to close up that space and lots of blankets. Nevertheless, my car is full of hair and dog treats.

Eventually we might have a dog box custom made, but we just haven't done it yet. The seat belt seems to work ok for lily.
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May I just say... What a dolly! Is he a cairn terrier?
A Norwich but he has indeed been mistaken for a Cairn most of the time. Not that it bothers either of us.
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