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Old 06.10.2014, 22:45
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Possible oxymoron: INTJ social group in Zurich???

Despite the fact that INTJ-types are often perceived as asocial...there is still a need for these people to be social from time to time (myself included). However, to the INTJ the very idea of socializing can often be deemed as a trite and banal experience for myriad reasons.

So...in the spirit of experimentation...I wonder what would happen if a bunch of INTJs gathered in one spot? Would nothing happen? Or would the reality that everyone else at the gathering is likely awkward provide a point of relief?

I for one would likely sit quietly for 30-minutes and begin calculating statistics on every random observation possible. Others might just fidget about hoping there is no need to actually start a conversation...and if one does start it better be meaningful!

As a pre-scheduling bit of due diligence...would such a meeting even work, in theory? Too esoteric perhaps? Who knows: either nothing will happen...or not.
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Old 07.10.2014, 00:01
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Re: Possible oxymoron: INTJ social group in Zurich???

My two cents: I can't think of anything less appealing than a party where I knew in advance everyone there would have a personality similar to my own. For me the whole point of socializing is that people are so gloriously different from each other.

But I have no idea whether I'm an INTJ or not. Perhaps I'm not and if I were I'd feel differently.
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Re: Possible oxymoron: INTJ social group in Zurich???

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Despite the fact that INTJ-types are often perceived as asocial...there is still a need for these people to be social from time to time (myself included). However, to the INTJ the very idea of socializing can often be deemed as a trite and banal experience for myriad reasons.

So...in the spirit of experimentation...I wonder what would happen if a bunch of INTJs gathered in one spot? Would nothing happen? Or would the reality that everyone else at the gathering is likely awkward provide a point of relief?

I for one would likely sit quietly for 30-minutes and begin calculating statistics on every random observation possible. Others might just fidget about hoping there is no need to actually start a conversation...and if one does start it better be meaningful!

As a pre-scheduling bit of due diligence...would such a meeting even work, in theory? Too esoteric perhaps? Who knows: either nothing will happen...or not.
As a kinda-INTJ-probably, I don't think the idea of an event for people 'like us' is a bad idea but I'd rather have a board or card game evening where people can be social if they want. Carcassonne or bridge or something. That may be orthogonal to the INTJ definition of likely attendees, however.
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Old 03.11.2014, 16:26
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But I have no idea whether I'm an INTJ or not. Perhaps I'm not and if I were I'd feel differently.
I guess if you have to ask yourself the question then you're probably not.

I had to google it so I guess I'm not either.
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Old 03.11.2014, 16:30
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Re: Possible oxymoron: INTJ social group in Zurich???

It would be one quiet party

Maybe have it in a giant kitchen

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Old 03.11.2014, 16:38
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Re: Possible oxymoron: INTJ social group in Zurich???

Just need to find a venue with lots of corners.

Anyway. What about the rest of us "I"s? Don't we get a party?


Assemble your invite list here

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Despite the fact that INTJ-types are often perceived as asocial...there is still a need for these people to be social from time to time (myself included). However, to the INTJ the very idea of socializing can often be deemed as a trite and banal experience for myriad reasons.

So...in the spirit of experimentation...I wonder what would happen if a bunch of INTJs gathered in one spot? Would nothing happen? Or would the reality that everyone else at the gathering is likely awkward provide a point of relief?

I for one would likely sit quietly for 30-minutes and begin calculating statistics on every random observation possible. Others might just fidget about hoping there is no need to actually start a conversation...and if one does start it better be meaningful!

As a pre-scheduling bit of due diligence...would such a meeting even work, in theory? Too esoteric perhaps? Who knows: either nothing will happen...or not.
Sounds great, actually. Would make me feel nice and really not uncomfortable about dreaded scripted scenarios I am supposed to fit in. I imagine it quite exciting, all the unpredictable turns and interesting bits of info. Knowing myself, I would show up with a back up briefcase full off stuffs to entertain me with, hahah.

INTJs gel together. They just get uncomfortable, sometimes, about societal routines, stereotypes and rituals that don't make much sense or aren't necessarily needed yet still expected. So while they might not have the patience to chill with others, go through dates or pointless work meetings, they actually look for other INTJs, in my experience. We are all INTJs in a family, our reunions are pretty hilarious and intense.

When's the party?
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Old 03.11.2014, 17:39
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Re: Possible oxymoron: INTJ social group in Zurich???

My wild speculation: The INTJs party would fragment into higher resolutions of the INTJ type.

In other words, if the sample population is strictly INTJ, what fractions can we detect within that population? Can we segment a group of INTJs into ENTPs, INTJs, ENTJs, INTPs, etc, etc.

I would anticipate that we can. So, as an INTJ, you might find yourself the rockstar, or you might find yourself the nerd of nerds, amongst the herd of INTJs

Has anyone taken the test with a span of years in between? We took it as incoming freshman, and again our senior year in university. I went from INTJ to INTP, approaching ENTP, .., but then I was an idiot Freshman year.

I was a seasoned, comparatively experienced idiot by graduation

BTW, the Wiki Page on the Myers Briggs types are rather interesting. Check out the wheel chart on cognitive function. Neat stuff.
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Re: Possible oxymoron: INTJ social group in Zurich???

The strang..ahem, most special attempt at socialising I have seen so far....

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Re: Possible oxymoron: INTJ social group in Zurich???

I'm an Infp, very strongly n and p ( for example, I score no j points at all). Have been for about 15 years, though I once tested Entp. I have become more I over time. It doesn't mean I'm antisocial but I prefer small groups to large and find large social events exhausting.
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Re: Possible oxymoron: INTJ social group in Zurich???

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It would be one quiet party

Maybe have it in a giant kitchen

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It would have to be tidy kitchen, otherwise the element governing compliance would initiate order and tidying up would ensue.

It's a great question from the OP. I'm also an INTJ and have often been called a bore at work, as I'm the quiet one, doesn't get sh1tfaced at the works parties and sits smugly the day after without the hang-over etc. At some points it has really got my back up, but now I just don't care. It is however a pretty good tool to use at work when you know what someone else's overview is, as you can alter how you deal with certain people with certain profiles.

In a room full of other INTJ's? It'd be a quiet, contemplative first 15/20mins I think. People respecting other peoples space. Sounds perfectly idyllic.
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It would have to be tidy kitchen, otherwise the element governing compliance would initiate order and tidying up would ensue.

It's a great question from the OP. I'm also an INTJ and have often been called a bore at work, as I'm the quiet one, doesn't get sh1tfaced at the works parties and sits smugly the day after without the hang-over etc. At some points it has really got my back up, but now I just don't care. It is however a pretty good tool to use at work when you know what someone else's overview is, as you can alter how you deal with certain people with certain profiles.

In a room full of other INTJ's? It'd be a quiet, contemplative first 15/20mins I think. People respecting other peoples space. Sounds perfectly idyllic.
This is the first image that came to my mind after reading OP and thinking of a party like this. And I'm "Intj" too, apparently..



Anyways. I hope it could actually work, so have fun everyone.
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Weird pic, but pretty cool. What/where is it from?
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Re: Possible oxymoron: INTJ social group in Zurich???

ISFJ here - I actually don't think the idea is a bad one, but I'm also somebody who enjoys learning and talking about the Myers Briggs. Perhaps you might get a bigger haul of people if you opened it up to, say, introverts? Or even people who shared two of your letters?
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Re: Possible oxymoron: INTJ social group in Zurich???

i've never met another intj.. maybe out of curiosity to see another 'unicorn' but wouldn't it be better to invite people who you might get along with?

intj friends

'This more or less limits their pool of friends to fellow Analysts (NT) and Diplomat (NF) types'

i've found i get along better with the cheerful, pass the champagne types though, and amazed in a 'how did they do that' way by the more diplomatic types, rather than analytical.
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ISFJ here - I actually don't think the idea is a bad one, but I'm also somebody who enjoys learning and talking about the Myers Briggs. Perhaps you might get a bigger haul of people if you opened it up to, say, introverts? Or even people who shared two of your letters?
This is quite an interesting topic. Im an ESFJ and am curious how an ISFJ would be. Could make for an interesting gathering.
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Re: Possible oxymoron: INTJ social group in Zurich???

Very interesting topic! How about this for description:
http://www.geekinheels.com/wp-conten..._wars_mbti.png OR http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/11/07/st...-briggs-chart/

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Re: Possible oxymoron: INTJ social group in Zurich???

Never heard this acronym before so had to look it up.

Now I am worried I am one

But definitely will not join the party
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Re: Possible oxymoron: INTJ social group in Zurich???

I wouldn't get too concerned about the Myers-Briggs stuff, although it's still popular it's not really supported by recent evidence on personality research. Models such as OCEAN are what tend to be used now when it needs to be valid e.g. research, recruitment, assessment etc.

In any case we tend to over-focus on the individual's personality and forget that the situation has a greater affect - consider an INTJ's behaviour in church on a Sunday morning and then supporting their soccer team on Sunday afternoon - it's not like people go from situation to situation behaving the same way.

Myers-Briggs a bit of fun IMO, like horoscopes!
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Re: Possible oxymoron: INTJ social group in Zurich???

I started answering the questions but got bored after the first six and gave up.

What letters do I get?
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