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Adult ADHD group/accountability buddies

Dear friends,


Any fellow neurodivergent folks out there who would be interested in exchanging stories, experiences, and tips related to adult ADHD?


I would like to get a weekly or biweekly group going to do just that. I'm located in Zurich but depending on interest, we could organize a virtual meetup (perhaps better anyway given the situation with Covid).



The idea of the group would not be to replace traditional therapy; rather it will be a safe space for those of us who are afflicted to talk about coping mechanisms and the ways ADHD affects us. Another thing we could set up would be an accountability buddy system, to help keep one another on track with work and everyday tasks when our prefrontal cortexes get in the way. The buddy system is a tried and true method for coping with the symptoms of ADHD.



Reply here or send me a message if interested!

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Hi,

I'm Veronica. I'm originally from Argentina, but I've been living here for over 15 years.
I'm about 1 hour away fromZH, in Wattwil, bang on in the middle of the Toggenburg valley. Half an hour from Wil, if it helps, hehe.

I'm struggling a bit to get diagnosed with ADHD. I mean, I'm sure I have it, my son has it, but I just came out of a disappointing experience with a psychiatrist who tried to talk me out of ADHD before he even let me explain why I think I have it.

I've never been on an accountability group, and all the coaching I'm doing is self-taught. I'm still a bit shy about a zoom meeting, it's a bit overwhelming for me right now . But I would love to meet other people with ADHD.

Also, PM me anytime for a chat!
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I'm Veronica. I'm originally from Argentina, but I've been living here for over 15 years.
I'm about 1 hour away fromZH, in Wattwil, bang on in the middle of the Toggenburg valley. Half an hour from Wil, if it helps, hehe.

I'm struggling a bit to get diagnosed with ADHD. I mean, I'm sure I have it, my son has it, but I just came out of a disappointing experience with a psychiatrist who tried to talk me out of ADHD before he even let me explain why I think I have it.

I've never been on an accountability group, and all the coaching I'm doing is self-taught. I'm still a bit shy about a zoom meeting, it's a bit overwhelming for me right now . But I would love to meet other people with ADHD.

Also, PM me anytime for a chat!
Quite the opposite experience here on diagnosis.. My general doctor suggested that I should get checked out, because i'm hyperactive and have the attention span of a fly..

After two phone calls with a specialist psyc and completing a couple of questionnaires he was writing me a prescription for adderall.
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I'm struggling a bit to get diagnosed with ADHD. I mean, I'm sure I have it, my son has it, but I just came out of a disappointing experience with a psychiatrist who tried to talk me out of ADHD before he even let me explain why I think I have it.
Shit. I'm sorry to hear, that sucks!

I was lucky enough to encounter a very empathic therapist/ADHD specialist who did the clinical tests with me as soon as I requested them. (She's located in Zurich, I can PM you her contact info if you'd like!)

Getting diagnosed has its advantages and disadvantages, but many ppl do feel relief to hear the words out loud (plus, it gives you the option of medication). If you think a diagnosis would help you, I would absolutely get a second opinion. Tip: Find someone who works with ADHD in adult women. There are still so many stupid stereotypes out there about it only being a "boys" affliction. ADHD often presents itself differently in girls and women, so make sure you work with someone who is familiar with this!
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Quite the opposite experience here on diagnosis.. My general doctor suggested that I should get checked out, because i'm hyperactive and have the attention span of a fly..
You are just productive! Not sure if the Dr. gets it

OP - I always worked in a tandem/team for virtual accountability and time management, works like a charm. Try setting up a social event, I am sure people will sign up, it seems to be a frequent diagnosis. I am not ADHD but am used to seriously overschedule due to circumstances, could use a good Focus Group. x
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Quite the opposite experience here on diagnosis.. My general doctor suggested that I should get checked out, because i'm hyperactive and have the attention span of a fly..

After two phone calls with a specialist psyc and completing a couple of questionnaires he was writing me a prescription for adderall.
Hi John_H,

I just sent you a PM, I hope you don't mind.

I would be happy to join the group but am only affected by a close family member. I do know it has been a struggle for my family member to be properly treated in Switzerland.

Best wishes & hope you have a successful and helpful group.
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I am not ADHD but am used to seriously overschedule due to circumstances, could use a good Focus Group. x
No offense MC,as I know you mean well, but it is a much different condition. I know that sufferers of ADHD really dislike it when people make comments like this.
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No offense MC,as I know you mean well, but it is a much different condition. I know that sufferers of ADHD really dislike it when people make comments like this.
Yep, they do. The main reason I have not responded is that I can barely keep it together for myself but will move heaven and earth to make sure someone else has their needs met. It's about much more than focusing.
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No offense MC,as I know you mean well, but it is a much different condition. I know that sufferers of ADHD really dislike it when people make comments like this.
That's understandable. So if the group doesn't mind a non ADHD person who needs a focus group, I am in for giving support.
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After two phone calls with a specialist psyc and completing a couple of questionnaires he was writing me a prescription for adderall.
I hate to ask this when you've been so specific, but are you sure it was Adderall? The reason I ask is that I had a conversation about ADHD medication with my doctor a while ago. Ritalin and Concerta are widely prescribed but Adderall or anything with amphetamine is strictly verboten, he said. This was confirmed when I did some reading around it. The regulations cause problems for Americans in particular who have trouble continuing their Adderall medication when they move here from the US, where it's widely used. In those cases there is some mechanism for getting special dispensation but they have to jump through quite a few hoops. I'd be very surprised if it was prescribed on the basis that you happen to be hyperactive.

The reason I'm interested is that I did take Ritalin for 2 or 3 years but it eventually sort of stopped working and so I asked my doc if there were alternatives.
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I hate to ask this when you've been so specific, but are you sure it was Adderall? The reason I ask is that I had a conversation about ADHD medication with my doctor a while ago. Ritalin and Concerta are widely prescribed but Adderall or anything with amphetamine is strictly verboten, he said. This was confirmed when I did some reading around it. The regulations cause problems for Americans in particular who have trouble continuing their Adderall medication when they move here from the US, where it's widely used. In those cases there is some mechanism for getting special dispensation but they have to jump through quite a few hoops. I'd be very surprised if it was prescribed on the basis that you happen to be hyperactive.

The reason I'm interested is that I did take Ritalin for 2 or 3 years but it eventually sort of stopped working and so I asked my doc if there were alternatives.
I'm shortening the story .. but the options were methylphenidate or dextroamphetamine.. I havn't tried either yet, still discussing.
And yes, maybe my initial comment was misleading giving the brand name, it was just to effect the fact that somebody was struggling for a long time to get any diagnosis and yet I was offered drugs after two phone calls.

He said he couldn't offer the branded names, only the generics.. So I really don't know.
I haven't even tried yet, maybe won't at all. As you say, I'm a little skeptical about taking an upper to stop me from spinning around in my seat
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You'd be surprised how well a stimulant works in some people who require focus. In fact, my first experience with Ritalin was that I fell asleep, it relaxed me so much. But if you've not been diagnosed via someone who deals with these conditions regularly, I'd be reluctant. The only off label use of Ritalin (a stimulant) that I've heard of (and again, there might be others) was for someone with cancer-treatment related fatigue.


I might be wrong, but I thought Adderall was not available in Switzerland. At least not when I was first diagnosed in 2008.

There are other medications available in Switzerland - vyvance, I think, which is a newer drug and maybe Strattera.
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You'd be surprised how well a stimulant works in some people who require focus. In fact, my first experience with Ritalin was that I fell asleep, it relaxed me so much.


I might be wrong, but I thought Adderall was not available in Switzerland. At least not when I was first diagnosed in 2008.
I have a lot of experience with stimulants from my youth, not prescribed

I do remember on occasion reading the telephone directory and finding it highly interesting and engrossing. So I'm sure properly diagnosed and prescribed it could work.
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I have a lot of experience with stimulants from my youth, not prescribed

I do remember on occasion reading the telephone directory and finding it highly interesting and engrossing. So I'm sure properly diagnosed and prescribed it could work.
And I have a lot of experience with them as an adult, prescribed as well as a few friends experienced with the unprescribed variants, and yes, they do work. But no, speed is not the same thing.

I think you‘re trying to be amusing here, but it‘s hard enough for women especially, but also men to get proper diagnoses and treatment, so it‘s not really a big joke.

Since I’m being a big bitch here, I’ll go one further. Please don‘t call people with ADD/ADHD or any condition “sufferers”. Not a victim.
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And I have a lot of experience with them as an adult, prescribed as well as a few friends experienced with the unprescribed variants, and yes, they do work. But no, speed is not the same thing.

I think you‘re trying to be amusing here, but it‘s hard enough for women especially, but also men to get proper diagnoses and treatment, so it‘s not really a big joke.
This is how I deal with things. especially online, I keep it light and short.

I'm very sure that nothing I say will make it more or less difficult for anybody to get diagnosis nor treatment. But I'll bow out of it.. I've said my very short piece on it. I don't have enough experience to get serious.
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I can PM you her contact info if you'd like!
Yes please, I would like the info! I already PM'd you.
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And I have a lot of experience with them as an adult, prescribed as well as a few friends experienced with the unprescribed variants, and yes, they do work. But no, speed is not the same thing.

I think you‘re trying to be amusing here, but it‘s hard enough for women especially, but also men to get proper diagnoses and treatment, so it‘s not really a big joke.

Since I’m being a big bitch here, I’ll go one further. Please don‘t call people with ADD/ADHD or any condition “sufferers”. Not a victim.
A bit harsh in my view. Not that it isn't a serious subject but if people can make jokes about their cancer (or perhaps that's just a British thing) then I think we can handle a mildly light-hearted reference to ADHD.

Maybe the whole topic of medication is hijacking the thread which wasn't really intended to be about that. But I did find John_H's information very interesting. And ADHD "sufferers" is surely just an innocent turn of phrase, and quite a sympathetic one compared with many of the comments we've had here over the years on the topic of ADD/ADHD. I'm sorry that you were upset but in fairness to the other poster, it didn't cross any of my lines.
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A bit harsh in my view. Not that it isn't a serious subject but if people can make jokes about their cancer (or perhaps that's just a British thing) then I think we can handle a mildly light-hearted reference to ADHD.

Maybe the whole topic of medication is hijacking the thread which wasn't really intended to be about that. But I did find John_H's information very interesting. And ADHD "sufferers" is surely just an innocent turn of phrase, and quite a sympathetic one compared with many of the comments we've had here over the years on the topic of ADD/ADHD. I'm sorry that you were upset but in fairness to the other poster, it didn't cross any of my lines.
Fair enough. However, it crossed mine. That‘s the problem with “jokes”, one person finds it funny, another finds it to be less than. I believe “sufferers” is mostly British. I absolutely despise it. Along with winners, losers, disease fighters. But if it doesn’t bother you, that’s ok fine.
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I was curious if magnesium supplements could help with ADHD, since they really help for anxiety and calming people down, so I just looked it up and found this:

Magnesium Supplementation Improves ADHD Symptoms
"Magnesium supplements with vitamin B6, which increases magnesium absorption, have shown promise for reducing ADHD symptoms. One study found that 58% of participants with ADHD had low serum magnesium levels."
https://www.zrtlab.com/blog/archive/...dhd-magnesium/

I just thought I'd share that in case it might be of any help or interest to anyone here. I take magnesium glycinate* every evening. It helps immensely with stress and anxiety (as well as achy muscles) and helps me feel more calm in general, which helps me focus.
*magnesium glycinate because it is the form that is most easily absorbed and has no side effects compared to other form of magnesium which can bother the intestines

My sister was diagnosed with ADHD a few years ago and the symptoms actually went away once she stopped using social media, which she was really addicted to at the time.

What Social Media Does to an ADHD Brain

https://chadd.org/adhd-weekly/what-s...an-adhd-brain/

There's a Worrying Link Between Rising ADHD Symptoms And Too Much Internet, Study Shows
https://www.sciencealert.com/attenti...se-adolescents

I hope my post doesn't offend anyone, as that's certainly not my intention. I just thought I'd share in care it interests anyone here.
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I'd like to join. I didn't know this (having an accountability partner) was a recommended strategy, but it makes sense. And I am looking for some new ways to help me stay on track and get things done. Plus it would be really good to hear from others about their experiences. I don't know anyone else with ADD and it has been a bit lonely trying to figure things out by myself.
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