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Hiking the Surenenpass / Engelberg in winter

howdy all- anyone know if it would be at all feasible to do some winter hiking across the surenenpass from Brusti (reached via cablecar) over to the engelberg area?

Trying to gauge what sort of conditions it would be (obviously snowy) and whether there's any discernible pathways / need for snowshoes etc

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Re: Hiking the Surenenpass / Engelberg in winter

You are looking at a high alpine area with steep slopes, exposed ridges and a lot of snow at this time of the year. Not a good idea ! The following is a series of pictures I took in early September of this year crossing the Surenpass from Fürenalp to Brüsti. I hope the pictures can bridge the time until the Surenenpass is open again. On the eastern side of the Surenenpass the snow doesn't melt until very late in summer. Look at one of the signposts on the pictures. It says "Langschnee", literally for "long snow". Your best bet for a crossing will be August or September.
















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Re: Hiking the Surenenpass / Engelberg in winter

Thanks for the reply . . . .some nice pics, but I don't really think 27 pics of the area in summer is that relevent to the question.... 2 or 3 would have been fine.

Anyway thanks for your opinion on conditions.
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Re: Hiking the Surenenpass / Engelberg in winter

I disagree, you can see that these are high alpine walks, they would be quite dangerous in winter!

Let us know if you are going and we will keep an eye out for you next August.

http://www.top-of-uri.ch/_pages/Wand...Surenen.htm#11

http://www.sac-cas.ch/index.php?id=1&L=3

Swiss Alpine Club opening and manning times
All huts are open year-round (every hut has a winter room). About two thirds are permanently or partly manned in the winter and summer seasons, which means basic meals and drinks are available.
In any case, it is advisable to make enquiries about the opening and manning times for each hut, since these can change depending on the weather.

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Re: Hiking the Surenenpass / Engelberg in winter

True, but 3 pics would have told the story that it's a high alpine walk.
So would the fact that the pass is at 2290m, which I guess the OP already knows... in short yes it's probably a bad idea to do this in winter. I did it in Summer and it took over 7 hours, quite a challenging hike. Reckon on maybe doubling that time at least for snowshoes, and maybe more than doubling the effort required. Out of interest, how much snowshoe experience do you have? Have you done a tour like this before?

As well as being much more difficult in winter, it's also much much more dangerous. A path that's easy to follow in summer is not so easy to follow when covered in snow. Plus they're steep slopes overhead and over 800m of climb, so check the local avalanche conditions.

If you're desperate to go to the area anyway, why don't you check out the organised moonlight snowshoe tours from the Brüsti cable car station - next one's on the 19th January.
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Thanks for the reply . . . .some nice pics, but I don't really think 27 pics of the area in summer is that relevent to the question.... 2 or 3 would have been fine.

Anyway thanks for your opinion on conditions.
Those photographs are great and I am now inspired to do the walk, late next summer. Thanks for posting them all.
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Re: Hiking the Surenenpass / Engelberg in winter

Thanks for the comments; I'm relatively experienced in hiking and mountain navigation etc but not that experienced in snow-shoeing. Therefore I think this whole Brusti-Engelberg route is a bit much for one day in the winter.

ps. I think all the pics that were posted were great! I just thought that 27 of them detracted from my original question.......
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Re: Hiking the Surenenpass / Engelberg in winter

Hi Poot,

I tried it on November 20th. I started in Altdorf at 7:45AM. I made it to Brusti at around 10:30, and put on my snowshoes (Pic3). I had a quick lunch near some huts at around noon (Pic5), 1800m elevation. The closest I got to the pass was Angistock, 2060m elevation, at around 1pm (Pic7). Pic6 is my last look at the pass, before making my way back down. I took Pic8 a couple of minutes after that, on the way back down.

I had given myself until 1pm to cross the pass, to ensure adequate daylight, but I fell short by about 1.5 hours. The snow was too deep. But what an adventure!
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