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Old 09.03.2011, 13:22
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An interesting article for the Ultra Sportsmen and Women re. heart damage

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...... “There is no doubt that exercise in general is very good for heart health,” he said. But the emerging science does suggest that there may be a threshold of distance, intensity or duration beyond which exercise can have undesirable effects......
Fresh off the press of the NYT:
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/0...ng/?ref=health



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“How many people are going to join the 100 Marathon club” or undertake a comparable amount of training? he asked. “Not many. Too much exercise has not been a big problem in America. Most people just run to stay in shape, and for them, the evidence is quite strong that endurance exercise is good” for the heart, he said.
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Re: An interesting article for the Ultra Sportsmen and Women re. heart damage

Just another piece of evidence that proves that reading too much is bad for your health.

Right, I'm going out for a long run.
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Re: An interesting article for the Ultra Sportsmen and Women re. heart damage

This is not new. It's been spoken about by sports scientists for many years. The NY times have just come across a new study on the subject. I heard about this first when doing a sports injuries course back in 1997 and then it wasn't even that new.

The thing is you are talking about the volumes of exercise usually only seen in elite endurance athletes so the message for most of us is keep going exactly as you were. Exercise is one of the best medicines you can get for a whole range of illnesses, but like everything too much of a good thing can be bad for you. Unless you are doing multiple Ironman, Ultramarathons or suchlike you do not need to worry about this.

Coincidently, it's not only the heard that can experience problems with too much exercise. Most systems in the body can experience problems with the volumes of exercise which can cause this.
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Re: An interesting article for the Ultra Sportsmen and Women re. heart damage

Yup to all of that.
That's why I had posted the article as being of interest to the "Ultra" men and women in here.
I'm kaputt enough as it is - no ultra painful / dangerous stuff for me, thank you!

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This is not new. It's been spoken about by sports scientists for many years. The NY times have just come across a new study on the subject. I heard about this first when doing a sports injuries course back in 1997 and then it wasn't even that new.

The thing is you are talking about the volumes of exercise usually only seen in elite endurance athletes so the message for most of us is keep going exactly as you were. Exercise is one of the best medicines you can get for a whole range of illnesses, but like everything too much of a good thing can be bad for you. Unless you are doing multiple Ironman, Ultramarathons or suchlike you do not need to worry about this.

Coincidently, it's not only the heart that can experience problems with too much exercise. Most systems in the body can experience problems with the volumes of exercise which can cause this.
It should be obvious to any layperson that anything in excess is harmful, and that includes ultra-running/training, and yeah, those of us who didn't receive sports degrees also knew it. What this study shows is just one specific aspect of damage that I suppose had insufficient scientific evidence, surely a bunch of bright scientists wouldn't be wasting their time if it was already known

That said, I agree in general it is all old news, even that running ordinary marathons is harmful (not necessarily to the heart but for the body's immunity, joints etc.). Striking the "right" balance is difficult: what is ideal, what is acceptable, and what is excessive, is a highly individual thing, depending on one's genetics, physical state (as well as mental health ).

Sad thing that I observe is the dichotomy: ultra running is catching up fast, some of my old contacts organized the first one in India a few months ago, a country that has incredibly high rates of obesity/sedentary life related diseases. Countries as a whole are getting fatter, while those who are already into exercise are (sometimes) going extreme. It is like the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer , only in this case both sides are losing.
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