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Place near Zurich to do a vertical mile high ascent

I will be in Zurich for 2 months, and would like to travel by public transport (ideally not too far due to costs/time) to a resort where it is possible to do a vertical mile-high ascent by hiking in one day.

I have found Engelberg, but it seems that you can't quite do a vertical mile (~1610m) - but will probably go there anyway.

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Old 24.04.2011, 14:59
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Re: Place near Zurich to do a vertical mile high ascent

Alpnachstad to Mt Pilatus is about a mile high and reasonably close to Zurich. It is a non-technical hike in summer and easily navigable. I would wait until June for the snow to melt.
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Alpnachstad to Mt Pilatus is about a mile high and reasonably close to Zurich. It is a non-technical hike in summer and easily navigable. I would wait until June for the snow to melt.
I did it today - from Kriens to the Summit . . . there was still some snow but nothing to really worry about - I would say that the route is 90 percent free of snow. I took the crampons and ice axe - but didnt need either! It was a brilliant route and would definitely do it again - very steep near the top and pretty exposed in terms of rock falls from people above - however today was no problem - because I didnt see any other hikers! . . . well I did set off from Kriens at 07:50.
Anyone fancy it?
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Re: Place near Zurich to do a vertical mile high ascent

The town of Engelberg is at 1'015m. Titlis is ~3'200m. That seems well over a mile to me. Or are their no routes over the glacier?
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Re: Place near Zurich to do a vertical mile high ascent

How's about this one? http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythen

I would think the elevation change should be about 1600m ?
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Re: Place near Zurich to do a vertical mile high ascent

I think he's going to have to dig a dirty great hole to start from unless you have found a new route somewhere.

On second thoughts, he could start from the Vierwaldstättersee or the Lauerzersee and come all the way up.
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I think he's going to have to dig a dirty great hole to start from unless you have found a new route somewhere.

On second thoughts, he could start from the Vierwaldstättersee or the Lauerzersee and come all the way up.
LOL!!! I did actually try and find the low town's elevation, guess it's higher than my built in altimeter / guesstinomiter was telling me.... best see if MediaMarkt can get the English fixed! Haaaaaa

Besides, the swiss like digging big holes, or rather getting the Italians to dig them for them... perhaps they fancy an new tunnel through there!!!
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Re: Place near Zurich to do a vertical mile high ascent

Thanks very much for the responses! I will be going in late June.

The issue with Engelberg is that there does not seem to be a path onto the glacier - when you're on it there are paths to the top.

With regard to Alpnachstad to Mt Pilatus, could anyone provide a link to a map with the hiking path on it? All I can find is this: http://www.pilatus.ch/content-n85-sE.html

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Re: Place near Zurich to do a vertical mile high ascent

OK - start off with the sports sticky with Hiking in Switzerland in it. Open it. Then click on Hiking in Switzerland. When you have done that, click where it says this:
www.wanderland.ch/en/welcome.cfm This is a brilliant site with masses of information in English about routes, places to visit, books and maps etc. It is well worth spending a wet afternoon looking through all the various pages of the site. The 1:25.000 maps are a real plus.
Then click on that and towards the bottom, it says 'to map'. You click on there. Then you put Pilatus into the selection box, chose 25,000 as a scale, make yourself a PDF and you can look at it. Since Mr L moaned to the site that you couldn't turn the map round from 'landscape' to 'portrait' you can even do that.

If you get stuck, come back on here and Granny will help you.

I forgot, when you get to the map bit, you have to click on 'Print' to get to the next stage.
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Old 24.04.2011, 20:21
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I did it today - from Kriens to the Summit . . . there was still some snow but nothing to really worry about - I would say that the route is 90 percent free of snow. I took the crampons and ice axe - but didnt need either! It was a brilliant route and would definitely do it again - very steep near the top and pretty exposed in terms of rock falls from people above - however today was no problem - because I didnt see any other hikers! . . . well I did set off from Kriens at 07:50.
Anyone fancy it?
I was planning to do it with my son at a relaxed pace some time next month or so when it is dry...let me know if you are interested in teaming up.
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Re: Place near Zurich to do a vertical mile high ascent

I'd also be interested in a hike up Pilatus.
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OK - start off with the sports sticky with Hiking in Switzerland in it. Open it. Then click on Hiking in Switzerland. When you have done that, click where it says this:
www.wanderland.ch/en/welcome.cfm This is a brilliant site with masses of information in English about routes, places to visit, books and maps etc. It is well worth spending a wet afternoon looking through all the various pages of the site. The 1:25.000 maps are a real plus.
Then click on that and towards the bottom, it says 'to map'. You click on there. Then you put Pilatus into the selection box, chose 25,000 as a scale, make yourself a PDF and you can look at it. Since Mr L moaned to the site that you couldn't turn the map round from 'landscape' to 'portrait' you can even do that.

If you get stuck, come back on here and Granny will help you.

I forgot, when you get to the map bit, you have to click on 'Print' to get to the next stage.

Thanks for the (somewhat patronising) guide

That site is amazingly useful, I had no idea the walking maps are available for free!
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Old 25.04.2011, 21:35
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Thanks for the (somewhat patronising) guide
...but if I had just said 'look in the Sticky, all the information is there', would you have found it? At least half the folk who need the information contained in it don't actually look through it properly at all.

I didn't put the single steps there just for you anyway, so don't worry. Other members, or folk who are not yet members, read through these things and if it helps even one person to find there way through the mass of information in the Thread, then it is worth my putting it in from time to time. They may grin, or disapprove of my comment but I allow myself a grin on occasion too.

By the way, if you are very fit, foot-sure, don't suffer from vertigo and here later in the year you could do the trip two guys I know did. The Dom in Wallis from Randa. 3000m up and 3000m down in one day. Mostly folk stay overnight in a hut halfway up before continuing the next morning but it was full. So it was 'all or nothing' and being them, it was 'all'.

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The route description says PD+ with glacier crossing. I'm impressed by the two guys you know. I just wouldn't want somebody to read that and go try it too casually.
You are quite correct - thanks for pointing it out. The guys in question are Swiss and have been going up such mountains for many, many years. It is certainly not something to be undertaken lightly.
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By the way, if you are very fit, foot-sure, don't suffer from vertigo and here later in the year you could do the trip two guys I know did. The Dom in Wallis from Randa. 3000m up and 3000m down in one day. Mostly folk stay overnight in a hut halfway up before continuing the next morning but it was full. So it was 'all or nothing' and being them, it was 'all'.
The route description says PD+ with glacier crossing. I'm impressed by the two guys you know. I just wouldn't want somebody to read that and go try it too casually.

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I was planning to do it with my son at a relaxed pace some time next month or so when it is dry...let me know if you are interested in teaming up.
Will do! Look out for an event post.
Same goes for you Thomass . . .
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Re: Place near Zurich to do a vertical mile high ascent

Weesen to Leistkamm to Arvenbuhl - bus to Weesen

I make that 428m - 2101m - 1675m of climb - flat around 21km. A big hike!

About as close to Zurich as you can get - and you'll find a number of people happy to accompany you on this board!
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Re: Place near Zurich to do a vertical mile high ascent

Flums at 451m is just over an hour from Zurich and you can hike up to 2483m quite easily. Take the route on the left of this map up the Shilstall valley (past our house actually) if you want a very deserted and stunning hike or head over to Tannenheim if you'd still like to be part of civilisation (well, of a sort, you're yet to meet my neighbours)

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...quite easily.
I warn you. Don't listen to this guy and his '...quite easily'. Last time his 'nice clear path' led me into snow way over my knees not far above his house!
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Re: Place near Zurich to do a vertical mile high ascent

Here is an "easy" trip from Altdorf (Erstfeld) up to Hoch Fulen..trip down is pretty tricky though, but doable easily in 1 Summer day.

http://www.australis.ch/albums/hikes.../DSC_0086.html
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Re: Place near Zurich to do a vertical mile high ascent

Thanks everyone for your suggestions, I might end up doing several of them!

In particular, it seems that you can get from Zurich to Weesen in 52 mins (42chf return, or 22chf with half price card):

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Weesen to Leistkamm to Arvenbuhl - bus to Weesen

I make that 428m - 2101m - 1675m of climb - flat around 21km. A big hike!

About as close to Zurich as you can get - and you'll find a number of people happy to accompany you on this board!
This looks excellent, I think I'd love to do this! Roughly how many hours do you think? 12+? That just looks brilliant, I just need to find another person/people to do it with - it's a little too far alone! I'm thinking probably having to stay overnight in weesen or something, unless doing it the hardcore day/nighttrip way overtakes me! I'd be interested to know the suggested route - by the lake most of the way?

Thanks very much people, this is great, I'm loving the idea of this mile high challenge!
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