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Triathlon wear, advice, training beginner

Hi! I am doing my first short triathlon in August. Any recommendations on what to wear and especially where to buy in Nyon/Geneva/Lausanne area. I've been looking online but would rather try something on before buying the wrong size. Not too keen on a all-in-one suit but rather top and pants seperately. Any advice appreciated. thanks
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Hi! I am doing my first short triathlon in August. Any recommendations on what to wear and especially where to buy in Nyon/Geneva/Lausanne area. I've been looking online but would rather try something on before buying the wrong size. Not too keen on a all-in-one suit but rather top and pants seperately. Any advice appreciated. thanks
definitely get a pair of tri-specific shorts. I think that will be your first priority. Cycling shorts are too bulky to run in, and running shorts will make you hate the bike.

Your running shoes... try to find something that makes putting them on faster without having to fudge with the laces.

Your bicycle peddals... I don't knwo what you have, but for yoru first tri I wouldn't get anything specialized. Plan to cycle in your running shoes for the first one.

Sunglasses
Hat
waterproof sunscreen... there's probably a complete list of items if you google it. But paar this down because it's your first tri and you're not going to have or need all of the equipment yet.

Once you decide you actually like tri, then you will want to focus on shortening your transition times, and that's where the specialized gear really comes in handy.

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Re: Triathlon wear, advice, training beginner

You're right about separates, tri-suits are a nightmare if you need a wee!

Agree tri-specific shorts. Skinfit do some lovely kit but you can get cheaper ones that are perfectly good. (But make sure you wear them in before race day!)

Just switch elastic laces for regular races in your regular running shoes (cheap and convenient).

Cycle in whatever you have been doing your training in i.e. don't plan to cycle in running shoes if you haven't been doing that in training.

A race belt is a must too.

Not sure about shops in Lausanne etc but I think Wiggle.co.uk will ship to Switzerland and they have some great stuff. Otherwise try going to a running race or triathlon race and they will probably have some suppliers selling stuff that you can look at and try on.

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Hi! I am doing my first short triathlon in August. Any recommendations on what to wear and especially where to buy in Nyon/Geneva/Lausanne area. I've been looking online but would rather try something on before buying the wrong size. Not too keen on a all-in-one suit but rather top and pants seperately. Any advice appreciated. thanks
You don't say whether it is lake or pool, and whether you need a wetsuit or not (though given it will probably be in a Swiss lake in august it will be q warm). If you don't have a wetsuit then think a little about the drag when you're swimming, cycle shirts have big pockets which can slow you down for example. Tri separates such as those from skin fit, cocoon, skins, orca, will be close fitting so easy to swim in.

Shoes- it's your first one so wear socks for both bike and run. Use your normal running shoes for running, maybe get some lock laces (wear these a few times before the race so you get them tied correctly and they don't squeeze )
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But surely you dont weat the cycle shirt during the swim?

How does it normally work during the first transition from the water to the bike.... ? Do you have your running shoes, socks, towel, cycling shirt and helmet sitting by the bike, you run over dry off quick put on your gear and cycle off?

I guess the transition from bike to run is easier, just dump the bike and helmet and off you go?
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second question, for example with the zurich triathlon... are the roads closed for this event or do you have to stop at red traffic lights?
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How does it normally work during the first transition from the water to the bike.... ? Do you have your running shoes, socks, towel, cycling shirt and helmet sitting by the bike, you run over dry off quick put on your gear and cycle off?

I guess the transition from bike to run is easier, just dump the bike and helmet and off you go?
Yes, but you might not want to bother with a cycling shirt - just pull off you wetsuit (if you're wearing one), pull on your shoes, socks, helmet and race belt with number and off you go. You'll dry off on the ride. T2 is easier especially if you are not changing from bike shoes to running shoes.

Remember if it's a hot day or you'll be out a long time you should put sun block on after the swim.

At Zurich tri they do close the roads I think. It's not always the case with every tri.
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Re: Triathlon wear, advice, training beginner

First triathlon?

just wear togs (swim suit).
possibly put on a pair of cycling shorts when you put on your cycling shoes at the first changeover.
then take them off for the run and when you change your shoes.

dont invest in anything extra until you know you like it and will continue doing it.
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Here is a link to advice pages for beginner triathletes from my London club: http://www.serpentine.org.uk/pages/advice_tri.html

There is some useful stuff in there if you read through.

I don't know what distance you're doing but I was in the lake at mythenquai thus morning and it's a bit chilly when you get in but will be fine without wetsuit for the sprint. I'm going to wear one for the Olympic distance unless the weather heats up as I'll get more benefit speed and warmth wise than I'll lose in time taking it off. You can always borrow a wetsuit for your first tri if you want.

Also as it happens I just this week set up a Meetup website group to put people in touch for run and tri training sessions so feel free to join: www.Meetup.com/Zurich-rat
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Yes, but you might not want to bother with a cycling shirt - just pull off you wetsuit (if you're wearing one), pull on your shoes, socks, helmet and race belt with number and off you go. You'll dry off on the ride.
I would not wear a wetsuit, the lake is already a lovely temperature (unless it cooled down over the last few days), so just bare chested.

I believe that it is a requirement to wear a top during the cycle and run however, according to the rules.

How does it work with the timing... i think they give you an ankle band with timing chip and you wear that all the way through? then your top for cycling and running has the number tag on it?
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Re: Triathlon wear, advice, training beginner

Are wetsuits not compulsary for open water swims? IIRC husband had to wear one when he did the Neuchatel triathlon.

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Are wetsuits not compulsary for open water swims? IIRC husband had to wear one when he did the Neuchatel triathlon.
I only see the rules in german. According to my basic german it says that you cannot wear a wetsuit if the water is above 24.5 deg. However, im not sure if this implies that you MUST wear one if the water temperature is less than 24.5. If so, 24.5 seems very warm to demand a wetsuit. Any native speaker here please?

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Für das Tragen eines Neopren-Wetsuits darf die Wassertemperatur 24,5 °C nicht überschreiten. Die aktuelle Wassertemperatur wird gemäss den Bestimmungen von Swiss Triathlon 0.5 Meter unter der Wasseroberfläche gemessen und am Wettkampftag laufend bekannt gegeben.
Die aktuellen Wassertemperaturen des Zürichsees sowie die wichtigsten Wetterdaten (Aussentemperatur, Luftdruck, Windstärke und -richtung) sind ständig unter www.züritriathlon.ch "Wetter online" abrufbar.
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Re: Triathlon wear, advice, training beginner

The usual rule is that below around 16 deg wetsuits are compulsory, 16-24.5 they are optional, and above 24.5 they are not allowed. Last year it was looking quite likely that wetsuits would not be permitted for the Ironman but on the day it was just below the cutoff, much to the relief of many athletes!

Whether you wear one really depends on what distance you are swimming and how good a swimmer you are. If you are swimming a longer distance and/or are a weak swimmer, or are susceptible to cold, you will get more benefit from a wetsuit than you will lose in time taking it off. Strong swimmers will not gain as much time proportionally from the added buoyancy of a wetsuit as a weak swimmer will.

I found it pretty chilly in the lake this morning, and it takes me a while to warm up which affects my speed in transition and getting going on the bike, so i prefer to wear a wetsuit. According to the staff at Mythenquai the temperature in Lake Zurich is strongly affected by the temperature just the night before.

Yes tops are compulsory, sorry I had assumed the OP was a woman (from her name) and therefore, like me, would definitely not be swimming bare-chested!

Also yes, timing chip plus number for bike and run and possibly also number on swim cap and maybe calf, can't remember exactly for Zurich, but in any case it's your chip that your times will come from, your printed numbers are only for back-up and identification around the course.
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http://www.wiggle.co.uk/triathlon/ great website with reasonable prices and sizes for starting out. I use this from Lux and there is free delivery over a certain purchase amount.
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The usual rule is that below around 16 deg wetsuits are compulsory, 16-24.5 they are optional, and above 24.5 they are not allowed.
Just want to correct my comments here, now I have checked the official regulations on Swiss Triathlon website:
http://www.swisstriathlon.ch/Resourc...spx?raid=79637

Currently, the 16-24 deg temperature range for wetsuits being optional is correct for swims of 3k plus, i.e. Ironman distance swims, although the Ironman event itself is governed by ITU regulations too.

For sprint and olympic distance events, the temp range at which wetsuits are optional is 14-22 deg. However, as krlock3 has quoted above, it looks like this year the Swiss Tri regs for the shorter races in Zurich have been overruled in favour of the same rules as the Ironman.

Anyway, given that Wednesday's Seeuberquerung (swim across the lake) was cancelled today, I think it's pretty likely that wetsuits will be permitted in the triathlon races this weekend.

NettieNel - will you come back and tell us how it went and what you wore?

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Thank you for the advice! Great!
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Thanks! I never found that website with all my searches! Great place!!
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Re: Triathlon wear, advice, training beginner

Thanks for ALL the advice....I will let you know how it went after 7 Aug. The Lac Leman temperatures dropped this last week and it was unbearable for me to swim without a wetsuit although I usually don't mind coldish water.
Can anyone tell me where in the Geneva/ Lausanne region I can rent a wetsuit. Or may there is someone out there who can borrow me one?? I'm quite a tall woman...
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Re: Triathlon wear, advice, training beginner

If you do manage to find a wetsuit for hire, make sure it is a Triathlon wetsuit as diving/surfing wetsuits aren't really good for swimming in. A tri-suit is a good idea if you want to buy one as they are really one outfit for all. Don't forget to practice in what you are planning to wear as a tri-suit and wetsuit feel quite different in the water than a normal swimming costume.

Quick tip: I've done a couple of triathlons with open water swims with coolish water. Personally, I did much better on the one occasion when I could acclimatise myself in the water immediately before the race. We were able to spend about 10mins swimming around and I found this really helped to minimise the "Oh sh1t it's freezing" reaction that makes it impossible to stick your head beneath the water for the first few strokes.

Good luck for your race and remember to enjoy it.
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Re: Triathlon wear, advice, training beginner

Hi OP

Agree with most of the posts already in this thread. A couple more thoughts:

* Swimming in a wetsuit is different than without one. If you do go down that path, try to get some practice in beforehand. I find that I need to "roll" more in order to stroke properly. If you are really worried about the cold, you *could* swim in a surf wetsuit (I saw someone do that at the Zuri short distance tri) but it would be a last resort Definitely take some time to swim in the lake immediately before the race. It'll help to warm up the muscles and hopefully settle the nerves.

* If you can't get a race belt, then make sure you at least have some elastic for the race number (like the stuff from a sewing shop). Sometimes they give it out for free at the race but not always, so best to be prepared. Tie the elastic to the pre-punched holes in the number. When you're in transition, just step into the elastic and pull it up over your hips. So much easier than messing around with safety pins!

* A proper tri outfit is totally worth the money, and it'll make you feel fantastic and somewhat professional Wiggle.co.uk is a great place to get your tri gear at decent prices (already mentioned by someone else). I got a 2xu two piece from there and am very happy with it.

* If you are at all "endowed" then even if a tri top with a shelf bra won't be enough during the run. Get yourself a simple sports bra that you can also swim in. Try swimming in it, and running in it, beforehand so you know if it has the support you need.

* Wear socks for the run if you've never tried your shoes without socks before. It won't be any fun if you get to the end and your feet are all torn up (speaking from experience here).

* If you get the chance beforehand, do a BRICK training session one week before. That's a bike training, followed by a short run. This'll get you used to how alien your legs will feel when you get off the bike and try to run!

* Have stacks of fun! Triathlon is addictive, I hope you really enjoy it
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