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Cycling routes for less ambitious EFers

Routes abroad belong in Off-Topic - here.

Glatt Valley to the Rhine – Map, GPS and photos

46 km, 400 m altitude gain. Mostly flat on hard surface cycling paths and side roads with little traffic. One stretch of grit surface.

Starting from Bülach ZH (free parking at Sports Centre Hirslen) there is a very pleasant path following the Glatt.

The hydro electric power station Glattfelden-Eglisau in Rheinsfelden, the village of Kaiserstuhl, the Mammoth Museum in Niederwenigen and the Neerracherried (Wild life) are worth seeing.
The Power station is 'closed to visitors' until next year though and check the opening times of the Museum and Wild Life place before promising your offspring they can visit them.
There are Restaurants in most of the villages.
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From Oberwald VS to Mörel VS - Map, GPS and Photos
Along the Rhone valley - 46 Km, 3-5 hours

The Gommer Bike Tour follows the National Cycle Route 1. We took our cycles with us in the car (one e-bike and one mountain bike) and travelled to Oberwald the previous afternoon. We stayed in the Hotel Tannenhof in Oberwald which enabled us to start fairly early. One can rent e-bikes and other cycles in Oberwald.
This is a very attractive scenic route. From a cycling point of view not quite as simple as one might think. One loses 600 metres in height but as the total height loss is 1030, somewhere along the way one has ridden 430 metres 'uphill' too. Some of the 'uphill' is quite steep and I was glad of the middle 'push' of the e-bike. Even the tarred surface was, in some places, very uneven with large holes for the unwary rider. The ride down one 'flag-stoned' downhill part gave us a good shake.
Particularly the stretch after point 1310 is narrower, very steep and the gravel surface makes it more difficult to brake. To make life more interesting, the steepest slope has a 90° turn onto a narrow bridge at the bottom. Up and over the bridge, then another 90° turn and a steep upward slope. Meeting a 4-wheel drive going to work on a road which was hardly broad enough for his vehicle, let along room for me and my bike to pass him, also helped to make the day unforgetable. The warning 'Berieselung', seen just before Ausserbinn, means 'watering' and you may get sprayed with cool water which is intended for the plants.

Wallis/Valais is very dry in summer and the water is brought from one area to another via Suonen some of which are removed in winter (before the snow gets a chance to push them down the hill) and replaced, a dangerous job in olden times done mainly by the unmarried lads, in spring.

Actual cycling time for the 46km was about 3 hours. However, it is wiser to reckon with about 5 hours, if only because it is so pleasant to have a break and look at the scenery.
We wouldn't recommend this tour for 'inexperienced' riders or children without quite a bit of practice - there is a long drop at the side of the path! In Ernen one can ride down to Fiesch instead of continuing this route. We caught the train in Mörel back to Oberwald and the car.
Checking the route this morning on the Internet I found this:
http://www.veloland.ch/de/routen_etappen.cfm?id=20884
Technik: middle (Ausserbinn–Mörel: difficult)
'Pushing section': 1.5 km Ausserbinn-Hockmatta (historical path through the Binna valley).

And now they tell me!
For those interested in e-bikes, more about mine here. If you rent a Flyer e-bike in Goms there are stations en route where one can recharge or 'swap' the battery for a full-one, but I used just over a third of mine on this trip.
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La Punt GR to Scuol GR - Link to Route, Map and Photos

Our route was a slightly adapted and shortened part of the Engadin Tour - Inn Cycle Track number 65.
Time – 3 ¼ hrs; Distance – 53 km; Uphill - 584m; Downhill – 1033m

We travelled to Scuol GR the previous afternoon and took the bicycles in the special coach (middle of the train) to La Punt where we started our ride. (The Engadin Tour actually begins in Pontresina).

From La Punt we passed through Madulain and Zuoz and picked up the normal track in S-Chanf. In Lavin we decided to avoid the steep grit track up to Guarda and followed the main road as far as Ardez. Not too much traffic so it wasn’t a bad choice. Then we rejoined the Route 65 up to Ftan and then down the hairpin bends to Scuol.

We were very lucky with the weather. The forecast wasn’t all that good and although it was only spitting with rain when we left the hotel, by the time we had reached the station it had turned into a downpour. Once the train set off, the sky lightened and later the sun came out. The morning was ideal cycling weather – not too hot and no rain. Mid afternoon in Ftan the heavens opened again, but we were in a restaurant so we just waited awhile. Afterwards, had the waitress been keener to collect her money, Mr L quicker putting on his jacket and had I been faster round the bends, we would have been back at the hotel a fraction earlier and might have got the two bikes into the back of the car before the next heavy rain. As it was, we fled under cover at the hotel and the bikes had a shower which washed most of the dirt off. It’s an ill wind…
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Re: Cycling routes for less ambitious EFers

Thanks Longbyt.

Another one is this route around the Uetliberg:

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path...round-Uetlihof

It's just over 36 km and there are only two challenging climbs on this route: one from Triemli to the top, and the other at the Albispass at the southern tip. Otherwise it is pretty flat, and there are some excellent downhill sections.

I do this trip with a couple of friends every two Sundays starting from the roundabout outside Triemlispital. Next one is this coming Sunday (17 July) - we meet up at 9.30am.

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Any advice for the La Cote area?
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Re: Cycling routes for less ambitious EFers

Eastern Switzerland
Weinfelden > Wil SG > Bischofszell > Romanshorn (on Lake Constance) - ca. 60 km.
Link to Maps and Photos.

The route, well marked, mostly flat, through lovely farming countryside with many apple-trees has very little traffic. Plenty of chances for a stop for coffee or a snack. We had a light meal at the Railway station in Wil. The old 'centre' of Wil is well worth seeing. The old houses and the 'Rathaus' are quite impressive. At Bischofszell, the fountains were all decorated for Easter. Again, a pleasant place to wander round for a break. Altogether, a great day.

We took the bikes to Weinfelden by car and returned to Weinfelden from Romanshorn by the S Bahn. There are faster trains on this route, but having heaved the ebike into the luggage car of a Regional Train once last autumn, we opted to go for the local train, which enabled us to 'roll on, roll off'.

The Cycling maps are to be found under Veloland. Click on 'to map'.

I should have written this up when I did the trip. I completely forgot to mention the iCastle with a moat in Hagenwil. (Restaurant upstairs!)
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Re: Cycling routes for less ambitious EFers

THe complete route around Lake Konstanz is suitable for families, or people who are new to cycling. Years ago, it was the first route I ever used for a touring/camping trip.

For Zurich based people, it's easy to take bikes on trains to various start points, eg: Bregenz, Kreuzlingen(KOnstanz) Stein en Rein, etc

That means it is easy to stop and get the train back fro one of many stations along the lake ( or a boat ride back instead, from the far side)

A vey popular, but still uncrowded) ride is between Shaffhaussen and Stein en Rhine ( begin or finish by cycling to the RHine falls on the Shaffhaussen side of the river.) Stein en Rhine to Konstanz is also a nice ride thorugh farm land, with great views of the lake.

NOw, my question: which is the best (fastes?, least steep uphills?) route for cycling to ZUrich from Basel : a/ to Leistal, Sissach, Aarau, Brugg .........
or b/ up the Rhine through Rhienfelden to Waldshut , to Brugg.....

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THe complete route around Lake Konstanz is suitable for families, or people who are new to cycling. Years ago, it was the first route I ever used for a touring/camping trip.

For Zurich based people, it's easy to take bikes on trains to various start points, eg: Bregenz, Kreuzlingen(KOnstanz) Stein en Rein, etc

That means it is easy to stop and get the train back fro one of many stations along the lake ( or a boat ride back instead, from the far side)

A vey popular, but still uncrowded) ride is between Shaffhaussen and Stein en Rhine ( begin or finish by cycling to the RHine falls on the Shaffhaussen side of the river.) Stein en Rhine to Konstanz is also a nice ride thorugh farm land, with great views of the lake.

NOw, my question: which is the best (fastes?, least steep uphills?) route for cycling to ZUrich from Basel : a/ to Leistal, Sissach, Aarau, Brugg .........
or b/ up the Rhine through Rhienfelden to Waldshut , to Brugg.....

Many thanks, Biff
I haven't done it myself, but the north (German) side of the Rhein would give the best route. It runs alongside the DB railway, and it looks quite easy and popular. You could follow it all the way to Schaffhausen for a long trip, or for speed it would make sense to break off near Bad Zurzach and come down the Aare past Villigen/Baden and then along the Limmat through Dietikon.
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Re: Cycling routes for less ambitious EFers

Bern > Solothurn – ca. 80 km.
GPS map and photos.

This is one of several Veloland bike rides to be found on the Internet. Aare Route - 8 – Stages 4 + 5. We used our own bikes – mine an e-bike to help me to keep up with Mr. L.
We drove to Solothurn and spent the night there to give us time to look round the city. The next morning we removed the bikes from the car and caught the 8.18 regional express train to Bern. Cycles can be taken into the ‘entry’ part of the coaches but there isn’t much room so unless the large area for wheelchairs in one of the carriages is full, it would be easier to go there. We bought the Libero Tarif Verbund tickets the previous evening (‘in advance’ tickets are valid for a year and have to be stamped before entering the train).
We left Berne behind us surprisingly quickly and the way is well marked.
Once outside the built-up area, the scenery is varied with woods, lakeside stretches and farming areas where we saw workers four abreast sitting behind a tractor putting in seedlings in neat rows. The route along the Hagneck Canal is closed until 2014, so a detour has to be made. The whole route has little traffic and some ‘natural surface’. Occasionally we had to go up a flight of steps, but there was a convenient ramp in the middle.
The dam at the hydro-electric power station on the Wohlensee was built around 1920, just above the Atomic power station in Mühleberg, which uses the water in the Aare for cooling purposes. The worries about the consequences on the AKW if an earthquake breached the dam are well founded.
If weirs and river ‘correction’ projects interest you, check out the information on the subject. The route also passed through Altreu, which is famous for the stork colony. I’ve seen stork nests before, but never in a row of three across the same roof!

Altogether it was a great ride, not too tiring with plenty of small towns with pleasant cafés for replenishing calories and fluids! The waterproofs, as in the Danube trip, stayed rolled up.
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Re: Cycling routes for less ambitious EFers

This is not news really, but although there are several posts on here about Greifensee ZH for inline skating and running, there doesn't seem to be a mention of it as a good place for families with youngish children to cycle. Flat route, marked, runs round the lake. One can opt to take bits of it 'off hard surface' if you like, (perhaps not a good idea on a sunny Sunday when there will be more walkers on that path) but the cycle/in-line route is broad enough to make it very relaxing to ride. There are also several places to get a drink or a bite to eat and several chances to have a dip in the lake for those so inclined.

We left the car near the Lützelsee (just north of Hombrechtikon) which doubled the distance compared with just riding round the lake itself. (This would have been ca. 20 km) . The extra loop gave Mr. L the chance to check out the 'Outdoorland Shop' in Mönchaltorf on the way. Fortunately, Mr L doesn't have a 'luggage rack' on his bike and I didn't have my saddlebags clipped onto mine, so there was no temptation to take advantage of the cheap offers in shoes!

It was a good run and I was surprised to find it so easy to overtake skaters, walkers and families and, in turn, be overtaken by faster cyclists. Highly recommended - though perhaps on a sunny Sunday it might look different.
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Re: Cycling routes for less ambitious EFers

The Track around the Zurich See (or lake) is also highly recommended , the track from Horgen to Pfäffikon got its ups and downs, the track is around 70 km( with the shortcut over the bridge at Rapperswil) , otherwise 90 (complete)KM, the 70 KM could be done in around 2.5-3 Hours (with Breaks) .
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I'd advise doing it clock-wise though. This way, you avoid having cars merging from the right across 'your' cycle lane.
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Usually i start at bellevue, cycle to horgen, pfäffikon to rapperswil back to zurich.There are issues with reckless drivers only in the rush hour (from 04to 06pm) in Zurich and Pfäffikon, when you start later or cycle at the weekend no problems at all (only at the Bridge arriving in Rapperswil you have to keep a good distance to the moving cars , because the traffic lights in Rapperswil are really bad)
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Usually i start at bellevue, cycle to horgen, pfäffikon to rapperswil back to zurich.There are issues with reckless drivers only in the rush hour...
I'm not so concerned with reckless drivers; I'm more concerned about 'normal' drivers who simply don't always see a cyclist coming... Mr. L was 'just not seen', a triathlon friend was 'not seen' and I don't aim to join the list.
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What a brilliant thread Longbyt. OH and I always so careful with cyclists, giving them time and plenty of space. The other day however, on the climb back to us, OH came out of a sharp bend and there was a cyclist wobbling in the middle of the road as it got steeper. A miracle he was able to avoid her, with traffic coming behind and from the other side too. Pheew.
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Langenthal BE > Burgdorf BE > Langenthal BE – Distance 60 km
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The route follows the Cycling Route 84 (the ‘midland hill route’) as far as Burgdorf; we joined a short stretch of Nr. 24 until reaching Kirchberg – then Route 34 to Heimenhausen. Here we turned right to go back to Langenthal.
This short tour is also OK for racing bikes. The stretch of ‘rough’ on the way to Bollodingen can be avoided by going straight ahead in Bollodingen to the Burgdorfstrasse until one reaches Hermiswil. There, riding towards of Seeberg, one goes over the railway line and is once again on the ‘original’ bike route.
The farmhouses with their large roofs are typical of this region, together with the Spycher which is slightly set apart. This small building was visible from the kitchen or living room window where the farmer and his wife could keep a watchful eye on it. In olden days, together with food supplies and clothing, the family stored their important papers and money in this building. There was a very real danger of the main farmhouse being burnt to the ground if it were struck by lightening. Even at that time it was probably wiser not to cross swords with Swiss bureaucracy so a safe place for ones official documents would be a great idea! Burgdorf is well worth looking round too. From time to time, cycling along steadily, one sees the long stretch of the Jura hills in the distance. This is an attractive tour from the point of view of seeing the countryside.
I wouldn’t recommend this one for families with smaller children (riding their own bikes) as there are a couple of stretches along roads without bike lanes. They are not busy roads as such, but need slightly more concentration than other routes in Switzerland. Otherwise, no problems.
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Bauma ZH > Weinfelden TG - 60.85 km
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A pleasant run for golden oldies or families with children from ca.12 years old.
The run along the Töss from Bauma to Winterthur is ideal for a warm day. The shadow of the trees, a slightly downhill path, good surface to the cycling path. This section of the trip would be quite good for a test run with smaller children as it follows the railway line and one could 'knock-off' early if the children were really tired. As so often, one of the bridges was under repair and closed, really closed, so we had a short detour onto the main road before rejoining the bike path, but it should be open again before the end of June. And when it says, get off your bike at the low bridge, they really mean it! It really is low. There are couple of stretches of 'rough surface' but it is not too rough and good balance practice.
The Route follows Bike Route 53, Midland Route 5, 60 and the Thur-Route 95.
Well marked. The trip can easily be lengthened by starting at Steg, Fischenthal oder Gibswil. If anyone fancies a hill, start in Wald and take the route via Oberholz and Hüebeli to Fischenthal.

There are plenty of places to stop for a drink or a meal on the way.

We returned by train to Bauma on the S8 to Winterthur and then took the S26 to Bauma. The S8 starts from Weinfelden, which gives more time to get the bikes in and there is enough time to change trains in Winterthur without a great rush. Ramps at the stations help a lot too. Two 1/2 tickets for the bikes of course.

I wouldn't mind doing this one again...
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THe complete route around Lake Konstanz is suitable for families, or people who are new to cycling. Years ago, it was the first route I ever used for a touring/camping trip.
A bit more detail on part of biff's route...
Lake Constance – St.Margrethen, Bregenz, Lindau, Friedrichshafen, Meersburg.
Time – 4 hours, Distance – 78 Km
Starting point – Railway Station St.Margrethen
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This is a well-known route along the Austrian/German side of the Bodensee (Lake Constance. There are lovely views over the lake, the harbours and the many boats. On bike paths, we hardly noticed crossing the border into Austria and then into Germany. We rode through Bregenz, Lindau, Friedrichtshafen to Meersburg where we caught the ferry (runs every fifteen minutes) over to Konstanz and then cycled the short stretch to Kreuzlingen where we caught the train again.
Lindau has a lovely old town and it’s well worth stopping, locking up the bike and strolling round it. We had a break in front of the harbour looking at a lighthouse, which, to English eyes, looked very out of place. We also stopped in Friedrichshafen to go round the Zeppelin Museum there. I’d known very little on the subject. Neither Germany nor America were ‘pink’ on our maps, so probably Zeppelins weren’t considered worthy of more than a passing comment in our lessons at school.
The cycle paths are flat (logical enough I suppose), in good condition, well marked with a few stretches of grit road. Racing bikes are perhaps not such a good idea. There are plenty of places to stop for a drink or a meal though even at the beginning of October, some ‘Bier Gärten’ had already closed for the winter. As some parts are for both bikes and pedestrians, I wouldn’t suggest doing the trip on a sunny Sunday but on a late season Saturday there were only short stretches where our ability to weave in and out of groups of folk strolling along not looking where they were going was tested to the limit. Altogether a most pleasant day out and
We took the cycles on the train to St.Margrethen by train. It’s worth checking the connections – we chose the rail route via Sargans which is not the most direct one, but means only changing trains once. With the e-bike we are glad to avoid too many ‘narrow doorway, hang up the bike on a hook’ or ‘cycles go in the high door of the luggage van at the other end of the train’ experiences.
On the return journey from Kreuzlingen we unfortunately hit the ‘Saturday shoppers who had been saving their Swiss francs by buying their goods in Konstanz (D)’ crowds – which also meant that although we had seen from the platform that the bike hooks in the carriage we entered were both free, when we actually got into the train, we found that they were blocked by a pram and someone sitting beside it. We couldn’t get out again, we couldn’t put the bikes out of the way neatly using the hooks which we had ‘bought tickets for’ so we, unwillingly, made life difficult for everyone else entering or leaving the train at the next two stops. Another chance for everyone to post in Complaints Corner about inconsiderate cyclists who block the door of the train!
A lovely day and well worth getting up early for.
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Bike trip – Koblenz > Basel
Time – 3 ¾ hours, Distance – 68 Km
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Starting point – Koblenz. There is free parking near the station at the turn off for the bike route 60.
This route is very well marked; a few parts of the run are on grit roads so tougher tyres are better. Not too many pot-holes. Most other parts are smooth and allow a decent recreational speed. In autumn there are fewer people about, both pedestrians and cyclists, which makes for easier riding. Downside is that some of the restaurants are already closed. A couple of very short steep slopes made me glad I had the motor on my e-bike but other than that it was all plain sailing.
Along the Rhine, Near Leibstadt und near Rheinfelden, a couple of areas have been created where a more natural environment for animals, plants and fish is possible. It still looks a little bare, but with the different water speeds over the stones and still water areas, in a couple of years it will probably look almost as it once did before man took over. Of course, while the workers are around, the bike path occasionally looses its way but we managed to avoid any real detours. After a couple of short stops to watch the Rhine go by, we were a little late with our break at lunchtime. However, we found the Schwarzer Adler in Rheinfelden-Herten, which, although officially already passed its closing time, still had its door ‘ajar’. The cook offered to stay on to feed us. A very pleasant surprise.
We arrived safely in Basel where ‘cycling path’ doesn’t have quite the same meaning as on the previous kilometres. To get back to our starting point in Koblenz we caught the train from Basel Bad. Bahnhof to Waldshut. In the week, bikes are free on that German section but room for cycles is limited and on the fast train we caught, we had to ‘persuade’ a guy sitting on the folding seats by the designated area that the hooks he could see are meant to hold bikes in place not passengers! Remembering the time it took us to buy tickets on our previous visits, Mr L had purchased printed tickets on the internet. It takes a while to register and get the OK though - maybe they check your credit rating or something - anyway, it is well worth starting the procedure the previous day.
From the station in Waldshut, we retraced out route and followed the river bank. Again, it might be more crowded in summer but the few folk around were happy enough to let us pass. No problems crossing the German/Swiss border. At Koblenz we took advantage of the end-of-the-season offer of half-price ice-cream before driving into the evening traffic to get back to Zürich.
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Re: Cycling routes for less ambitious EFers

Cycling – Koblenz CH > Schluchsee - Black Forest Tour
Time – 4 ½ hours, Distance – 89.34 Km, Uphill - ca. 900 m
Starting point – Koblenz AG
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This run was done on a mountain bike – racing bikes would be less suitable for bits of the trip. A ride with lots of variety and not too many people!
No restaurants in the valley of the Schwarza and on Monday many of the others are found to be closed. Sankt Blasien is a real tourist centre with bakeries and cafés etc.
Leaving Waldshut the route goes to Schluchtal bei Gurtweil. From Gutenberg one follows the road with plenty of bends but little traffic to Witznau.
The sun was warm which was a pleasant surprise after thick fog and 10° in Koblenz.
Surprisingly, Müller’s, where e-bikes (pedeliecs) can be hired, was still open.
Sometimes, when signs say that the road is closed, it is worth going down it to see how closed it really is. Often enough there is still room for a bike to get through even if the road is ‘up’. You can see one of the 'closed' bits on the photos.
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