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Old 08.08.2011, 11:48
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Davos - 10km Downhill Mountain Bike ride!

With the local bike club we tried to do the 10k descent in Davos.
Basically most of the ugly uphill stuff is taken care by the cablecars whilst you are left your full energies to enjoy the ride down.

http://www.davos.ch/en/summer/activi...tude-tour.html

Nutshell briefing:

  • it's almost impossible to ride in one day - you'd have to be a top crack rider / racer...
  • ... as cablecars can be full and it's not guaranteed you'll manage to get aboard (i.e. lost time) and...
  • ...the gondolas (e.g. Rinerhorn) load one bike at a time. Stay with your bike, otherwise they'll stuff you with another gondola and you'll be left at the top waiting and waiting for your bike to get there :-/
  • it all means that you will want to plan an overnight stay in Davos
  • from what we were able to see, where it gets technical / steep (it is!) the tracks are mostly rutted out.
  • You will need bigger section FR/DH tires (ETRTO 54 or wider. Don't trust the measurement in inches), and possibly tubeless (you'll avoid pinch flats).
  • Plan an overhaul of your braking system *before* you hit the trails (pads AND hydraulics)
  • wear your full protection at all times - knees, elbows, skullcap back protection (backpack)
  • At the top (2500 mt / 7000 ft) it can get *chilly*, especially when the wind is blowing (and blow it does!) - layered clothing is de rigueur...
  • IMHO as soon as the riding group is composed of more than 2-3 riders, slowdowns will be inevitable....
We were able only to do 3 runs (appx. 30% of overall excursion) as we lost too much time regrouping, etc.
We also wanted to try the freeride / northshore run, but literally ran out of time.
My riding skill limits didn't allow me to fully appreciate the steep / technical / rutted out part of the trails.... this was compounded by my rear brake failing on me (my bad - I didn't have the hydraulics checked out before we left as my local shop was closed).

The weather on sunday was fugly so we decided to head back to Ticino and enjoyed a stop at the spa in Andeer :-)

Anyways - we'll be back to complete the rest of the runs, hoping for better weather

Ciao

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Re: Davos - 10km Downhill Mountain Bike ride!

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With the local bike club we tried to do the 10k descent in Davos.
Basically most of the ugly uphill stuff is taken care by the cablecars whilst you are left your full energies to enjoy the ride down.

http://www.davos.ch/en/summer/activi...tude-tour.html

Nutshell briefing:

  • it's almost impossible to ride in one day - you'd have to be a top crack rider / racer...
  • ... as cablecars can be full and it's not guaranteed you'll manage to get aboard (i.e. lost time) and...
  • ...the gondolas (e.g. Rinerhorn) load one bike at a time. Stay with your bike, otherwise they'll stuff you with another gondola and you'll be left at the top waiting and waiting for your bike to get there :-/
  • it all means that you will want to plan an overnight stay in Davos
  • from what we were able to see, where it gets technical / steep (it is!) the tracks are mostly rutted out.
  • You will need bigger section FR/DH tires (ETRTO 54 or wider. Don't trust the measurement in inches), and possibly tubeless (you'll avoid pinch flats).
  • Plan an overhaul of your braking system *before* you hit the trails (pads AND hydraulics)
  • wear your full protection at all times - knees, elbows, skullcap back protection (backpack)
  • At the top (2500 mt / 7000 ft) it can get *chilly*, especially when the wind is blowing (and blow it does!) - layered clothing is de rigueur...
  • IMHO as soon as the riding group is composed of more than 2-3 riders, slowdowns will be inevitable....
We were able only to do 3 runs (appx. 30% of overall excursion) as we lost too much time regrouping, etc.
We also wanted to try the freeride / northshore run, but literally ran out of time.
My riding skill limits didn't allow me to fully appreciate the steep / technical / rutted out part of the trails.... this was compounded by my rear brake failing on me (my bad - I didn't have the hydraulics checked out before we left as my local shop was closed).

The weather on sunday was fugly so we decided to head back to Ticino and enjoyed a stop at the spa in Andeer :-)

Anyways - we'll be back to complete the rest of the runs, hoping for better weather

Ciao

Paul
As a matter of interest, did you have a guide or was some of your lost time trying to find the way?

In my opinion the 10000m thing is marketing bull to try and drag people to Davos. To make the figure they end up taking people down trails that will give you the quickest altitude descent and leave out some of the best trails in the area.

Also... at the end of the day you actually do something like 9800m descending... so they are really using a bit of rounding up.

I reckon if you are spending a day there it's much better to do a round tour with about 6000-7000m of descending in the area and then maybe finish the day by riding down to Kublis, Arosa or Chur. You will not have to look at the clock so much and actually end up riding in my opinion better trails.

If you have two days then do the Bahnen Tour, but I would amend some of the trails to maximise riding pleasure.
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Re: Davos - 10km Downhill Mountain Bike ride!

Amen to all that, man
The group leader had tried the trails out a couple of days in advance with her partner.
But both are strong bikers - both up and down - but one thing is riding alone, another is leading a pack of 40somethings (plus 1 14 yo with a FR/DH rig) around the same tracks!
I do agree that probably there are better / flowier / "nicer" trails "somewhere" up there and for the next time we'll probably have a look at some of the stuff you had posted some time ago.....

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Re: Davos - 10km Downhill Mountain Bike ride!

Looking forward to riding Davos, hopefully I can fit it in this year. Other than my weekends in Wallis I do have Flims and Chur on the agenda coming up shortly. Cant wait to try something new. The only problem is some of the best trails in that area require too much pedaling for my DH bike but are too rough for my XC bike. Thinking about selling both and getting something in the middle. The more time I spend on my friends Canyon Torque the more I like it. Plus with the euro even with the frank you can get one really cheap with top components.
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Looking forward to riding Davos, hopefully I can fit it in this year. Other than my weekends in Wallis I do have Flims and Chur on the agenda coming up shortly. Cant wait to try something new. The only problem is some of the best trails in that area require too much pedaling for my DH bike but are too rough for my XC bike. Thinking about selling both and getting something in the middle. The more time I spend on my friends Canyon Torque the more I like it. Plus with the euro even with the frank you can get one really cheap with top components.
Hm.
You aren't really forced to do all the trails that require pedalling. You could just opt for those that take off in the immediate vicinity of the train / cablecar.
The 10k thing is really a gimmick to force people to try it out, realize it's almost un-doable, and to return to Davos (or stay overnight) to complete the whole thing.
With a DH rig I can imagine you would enjoy the northshore trail quite a bit :-)

Re. Canyon - just remember that you will have to import it, pay swiss VAT and then request the reimbursement of the EU VAT.
Delivery times on a new order can be iffy - plenty of furore now about the new Strive. Beautiful rig - but some folks have been waiting for months, and as the end of the season is approaching they're still waiting. Ditto with component repair/substitution (ammos, forks, apparently are a nuisance).
Warranty work - I just discovered that I have one of the Formula brakes that "may" require work - which normally would be covered under the warranty ...but not here in CH. Which means I'll need to take the bike to Italy in order to get the work done under warranty... what a PITA
(or else just pay out of my nose and have it done locally).

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Hm.
You aren't really forced to do all the trails that require pedalling. You could just opt for those that take off in the immediate vicinity of the train / cablecar.
The 10k thing is really a gimmick to force people to try it out, realize it's almost un-doable, and to return to Davos (or stay overnight) to complete the whole thing.
With a DH rig I can imagine you would enjoy the northshore trail quite a bit :-)

Re. Canyon - just remember that you will have to import it, pay swiss VAT and then request the reimbursement of the EU VAT.
Delivery times on a new order can be iffy - plenty of furore now about the new Strive. Beautiful rig - but some folks have been waiting for months, and as the end of the season is approaching they're still waiting. Ditto with component repair/substitution (ammos, forks, apparently are a nuisance).
Warranty work - I just discovered that I have one of the Formula brakes that "may" require work - which normally would be covered under the warranty ...but not here in CH. Which means I'll need to take the bike to Italy in order to get the work done under warranty... what a PITA
(or else just pay out of my nose and have it done locally).

Paul
Thats why being a mechanic pays for itself many times over and its not hard at all to learn. Most "warrenty" issues can be repaired easily, if it is totally kaput then Canyon will pay for all shipping costs. My brother in law ordered his torque in Feb. and recieved it in May. So I was thinking of ordering a 2012 modell as soon as they come out then while I am waiting for it I can go out and play on my snowboard.
I thought about the Nerve but the torque pedals so well and descends even better. I cant believe they let a bike that performs that good go for so cheap. A comparable bike in that class with the same components goes for 3x more. But dont take my word for it, ask someone who owns one. Or read any of the great reviews it gets in the bike mags.
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.... A comparable bike in that class with the same components goes for 3x more. But dont take my word for it, ask someone who owns one. Or read any of the great reviews it gets in the bike mags.
I sure knows
The other week I totted the cost of the components (hibike.de) of my rig, sans frame.
IIRC it came to something like 50% above the cost of the whole bike assembled and delivered
I could actually sell the frame "for free" and just plug the parts onto something else (eg Liteville 301)

I know some italian riders who hang on to their older (i.e. '09-'10) Torques and they have no plans to swap rides.

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Re: Davos - 10km Downhill Mountain Bike ride!

Exactly. To upgrade my current DH rig would cost more that a sparkling new one. The new one it is
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Exactly. To upgrade my current DH rig would cost more that a sparkling new one. The new one it is

Heads up: it's available NOW (Express bike)
http://www.canyon.com/_en/mountainbi...ke.html?b=2093

2'999 Eur (incl 19% german VAT which you will get back)

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