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Re: Getting my first Road bike

Coincidentally,I am also planning to buy myself a first new road bike
This is my first choice:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=49203

Also looking at www.Fahrad.de -would go to Frankfurt and get it in car to Zurich
you can come along if you like something there and dutch in some money for gas.

Here is my second choice:

http://www.fahrrad.de/fahrraeder/ren...ot/223262.html
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Old 31.08.2011, 18:52
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Coincidentally,I am also planning to buy myself a first new road bike
This is my first choice:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=49203

Also looking at www.Fahrad.de -would go to Frankfurt and get it in car to Zurich
you can come along if you like something there and dutch in some money for gas.

Here is my second choice:

http://www.fahrrad.de/fahrraeder/ren...ot/223262.html

I like that fahrrad.de has a Swiss sister site so you can easily compare and see how much you save even before taking VAT etc into account.
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Re: Getting my first Road bike

fwiw I did a lot of research into road bikes, and for an entry level bike I narrowed it down to two choices

A Scott S40 or a Specialized Allez

Both around the 800 mark (cheaper if you get a 2011 model now).

There is no point in spending more than this on a first bike unless you already know you have a place in next years Tour de France.

I've been ridding a 10 year old Ribble 531 frame bike with 8-speed Shimano 105 for the last 5 years and it's been fine, the only reason I'm changing it is because it's got close ratio gears 11-21 with a 53/39 at the front and now I'm cycling in mountains more I need something with lower gears.

It's not about how much your bike costs, it's about how well you ride it.

If you want to spend money, spend it on the wheels and the chainset as that is where you will get a real benefit, having a lighter frame makes feck all difference (especially when you strap 2 litres of water to it).

Wheels and chainset are where you will get a real benefit from spending more money.

Once you are good enough to make it worthwhile having a 5000 bike you will be in a works team and someone else will buy it for you
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Re: Getting my first Road bike

Thanks for the information.
Many road bikes that I see are with two chainrings -- my current bike has a triple with 50 teeth in the biggest chainring. I find it practically useless for the swiss terrain.

In case I buy a bike with a double chainring, I am of the opinion that it should be certainly less than with 50 teeth -- does that logic make sense? Or should I necessarily be looking at a triple? Being my first bike the additional weight is not really a big issue.
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Re: Getting my first Road bike

Before buying a bike from CRC, check out www.canyon.de . They have a showroom in Koblenz germany (about a day return drive), and their bikes are pretty much unbeatable on price/components. Only problem is perhaps the waitlist.
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Thanks for the information.
Many road bikes that I see are with two chainrings -- my current bike has a triple with 50 teeth in the biggest chainring. I find it practically useless for the swiss terrain.

In case I buy a bike with a double chainring, I am of the opinion that it should be certainly less than with 50 teeth -- does that logic make sense? Or should I necessarily be looking at a triple? Being my first bike the additional weight is not really a big issue.
Gearing all depends on your strength, cadence (pedal rate), and the roads you are riding. On flatter roads, I have a bike with a standard crank (53/39) and 11/25 rear cluster. For the mountains, I use 50/34 with a 12/27 rear cluster. You need the big ring (50+) for flats and downhills, otherwise you will spin out. I'd get a triple then, it will give you more choices or ratios.
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Re: Getting my first Road bike

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Thanks for the information.
Many road bikes that I see are with two chainrings -- my current bike has a triple with 50 teeth in the biggest chainring. I find it practically useless for the swiss terrain.

In case I buy a bike with a double chainring, I am of the opinion that it should be certainly less than with 50 teeth -- does that logic make sense? Or should I necessarily be looking at a triple? Being my first bike the additional weight is not really a big issue.
Most road bikes from the bigger companies (Trek, Specialized) will offer either a Triple or Compact chain set (if they offer any choice at all). Shimano Compacts tend to be 50 teeth and 34 teeth rings. Shimano do also sell a Double which is 52 and 39 - but you won't be wanting that unless you possibly want to do some racing and need that bigger 52 tooth ring.

A Triple will be your best bet, although Shimano are still going to stick a 50 teeth ring on, with a 39 and 30.

I ride a Compact Shimano 105 and I've not yet found anything I can't get up, as I have a 10 speed cassette on the back. However, if you're planning on some steep Swiss terrain then that 30 teeth front chain ring on the Triple might be the best way forward. It gives you a little more flexibility for riding mountains, touring, etc etc.
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Before buying a bike from CRC, check out www.canyon.de . They have a showroom in Koblenz germany (about a day return drive), and their bikes are pretty much unbeatable on price/components. Only problem is perhaps the waitlist.
I second that. I have a Canyon and absolutely love it. Easily the best road bike I've ridden and very competitive prices.
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Thanks for the information.
Many road bikes that I see are with two chainrings -- my current bike has a triple with 50 teeth in the biggest chainring. I find it practically useless for the swiss terrain.

In case I buy a bike with a double chainring, I am of the opinion that it should be certainly less than with 50 teeth -- does that logic make sense? Or should I necessarily be looking at a triple? Being my first bike the additional weight is not really a big issue.
I'm a beginner, we do a lot of steep hills, weight does make a difference to me. we have compact 50/34.
Is it possible to hire bikes and test the difference?
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Re: Getting my first Road bike

Thanks for all the helpful replies.
In order to get a feel of road biking, I bought myself a used bike -- something like this:
http://www.bikepedia.com/quickbike/B...urbo&Type=bike

with a complete 105 component set, and apparently quite unused.
It has a triple (30T) chainring with a 7 gears (largest 25T) at the back.

I am having problems getting up steep climbs with this combination .
I am quite comfortable doing reasonable stretches of 12+% with my touring bike and have a reasonably high cadence.

I gather from discussions on the net that a triple with 30T should be good enough to bike up the Jungfrau . Something is obviously different between my touring bike and this one, even though this bike is way lighter....

How should one go about with training?
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