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Winter outdoor clothing

I'm looking forward to spend time outdoors this winter but I'm unsure about what clothes I'd need, especially what kind of pants people wear.

The things I'd like to try are winter hiking, snow shoeing and x-country skiing. What it boils down to is that I'm not sure whether to get a pair of skiing pants or rather winter hiking pants. Thanks in advance for your advice!
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Old 04.12.2011, 15:57
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Re: Winter outdoor clothing

I certainly wouldn't buy skiing pants to wear for anything as energetic as cross-country skiing or snow-shoe hiking. For winter hiking I use my slightly thicker summer hiking trousers with a thin Odlo (or similar) long johns under them. For snow-shoe walking the same. I have a thicker pair of Odlo pants to wear under the trousers but haven't worn them yet.

For cross-country skiing I wear 'Odlo' underwear, a long sleeved cotton or Odlo type top, high cut trousers and a light jacket. Pulse warmers, good gloves (not thick ones though) and a headband complete the outfit. As I usually travel home by train, I take a rucksack with a change of clothing and a down jacket, thicker gloves, warm hat and scarf to put on afterwards. If I'm in a hurry to catch the train I change 'outdoors' even in minus temperatures as after the skiing I am as warm as toast. It's only later that I cool down with a vengeance.

I expect the hi-tech people will be along soon to give a more modern and more 'athletic' answer - but my outfit was probably cheaper!
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Re: Winter outdoor clothing

Thanks Longbyt, I'll scratch the skiing trousers from my list!

My summer hiking trousers are somewhat thicker and might already be warm enough in combination with Odlo underwear but I'll take a look around in sport stores and compare them to real winter trousers.

Do you also use 'gaiters' for snowshoeing?
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Re: Winter outdoor clothing

Yes. I also wear gaiters for winter hiking if we are planning to go through snow. Although my thicker hiking trousers have a hook on the bottom edge at the front which catches onto the lacing of the boot to keep the hem well down which helps a lot if we hit snow I didn't expect.

And a flask of hot tea (something with ginger in) is wonderful if you have a quick break to look at the scenery (or to recover your breath). Not for cross-country skiing though, as there I try to keep weight down. (The thick jacket etc. I leave in an old rucksack hanging on a hook and collect it again afterwards).
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Re: Winter outdoor clothing

The top of the line pants can go upwards 600 CHF, are worth it if you do extreme stuff, but probably not at all essential for snowshoeing/hiking (I can't advise about skiing).

i would invest in the best boots because if you spend all day on snow/melting snow feel can get wet/cold, that is uncomfortable. Look for used boots in baechli basement outlet, you might get lucky.

Gaiters are an essential piece. Unless you buy the top line pants which have inbuilt gaitors. Actually I also have a light summer trekking pant that that hooks into the boot, it works just as well and saves the bother of gaitors if it is just for a bit of use.

Actually what to wear depends on your body. jed climbed in t-shirt at sub-5 degree Celcius, I would have thought he did it to show off, but later I saw his pictures crossing a glacier wearing shorts (and crampons/axes). He is Alaskan. I would die if I did that. Conversely, he would die before me on a desert.

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Re: Winter outdoor clothing

Layering works best for me.
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Actually what to wear depends on your body.
I agree completely. Mr L needs different clothing from me and one member of our family is a 'short-sleeves in the snow' type whereas their partner is a 'oh boy, it's freezing' hiker in the winter.
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I'm looking forward to spend time outdoors this winter but I'm unsure about what clothes I'd need, especially what kind of pants people wear.

The things I'd like to try are winter hiking, snow shoeing and x-country skiing. What it boils down to is that I'm not sure whether to get a pair of skiing pants or rather winter hiking pants. Thanks in advance for your advice!
Something like this might work.

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The top of the line pants can go upwards 600 CHF, are worth it if you do extreme stuff, but probably not at all essential for snowshoeing/hiking (I can't advise about skiing).

i would invest in the best boots because if you spend all day on snow/melting snow feel can get wet/cold, that is uncomfortable. Look for used boots in baechli basement outlet, you might get lucky.

Gaiters are an essential piece. Unless you buy the top line pants which have inbuilt gaitors. Actually I also have a light summer trekking pant that that hooks into the boot, it works just as well and saves the bother of gaitors if it is just for a bit of use.

Actually what to wear depends on your body. jed climbed in t-shirt at sub-5 degree Celcius, I would have thought he did it to show off, but later I saw his pictures crossing a glacier wearing shorts (and crampons/axes). He is Alaskan. I would die if I did that. Conversely, he would die before me on a desert.
I'm far from doing extreme stuff, saves me from buying top of the line equipment it seems. For the boots, I wanted to use the same ones that I've been wearing in the summer: Air Revolution Lady Lite from Meindl. They're waterproof and should be warm enough with an additional insole I think. Gaitors are on the shopping list, I like my feet dry.

I belong to the "oh my, it's freezing" camp and it'll be a bit of trial and error to figure out what works best for me but it's very helpful to get an idea of what others wear.


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Re: Winter outdoor clothing

I'm an 'it's chilly' type when sitting still but a roll-necked pullover would have me dripping with sweat as soon as I start doing any physical activity. I find that pulse warmers, leg warmers and a scarf (even a thin one) make a lot of difference and pulse warmers are easy to take off and slip into a pocket if I get too warm.
Re boots - I have a pair of boots which I wear for winter walking but for snow-shoes I wear my ordinary hiking boots as they are stiffer and work better with the snow-shoes.

I certainly wouldn't throw my money around buying very expensive stuff unless I was absolutely sure it was going to make a big difference.
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Re: Winter outdoor clothing

We love winter hiking…

For many years I didn’t use any special winter outdoor clothing until I had a really bad kidney and bladder infection. Because it was very painful, especially if the wind caught me on a hike, I bought myself windproof softshell trousers and since then I don’t go on a winter hike without them anymore.

They are perfect because they are warm but not too warm; they are windproof (you need to check that, because not all softshell clothes are windproof) and water resistant. I have two of them; one which are very well insulated (for -10 degrees and colder) and another one which are a bit thinner but still windproof.
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Re: Winter outdoor clothing

Agreed to stay away from ski pants, they're way too bulky and cumbersome to allow free movement. I wear one body hugging thermal underwear layer then all weather hard shell pants. Medium thickness socks (think ones sweat up too easily) and definitely gaitors. Footwear depends on whether you're hiking or snow shoeing.

I find that people that come with us in the groups I organize tend to wear way too much. You tend not to get too cold on your legs. As long as your feet stay dry and warm, you'll be a happy hiker. For the rest of the clothing, work in layers as GoVeg states. Inevitably, one starts off feeling chilly, then you shed a layer or two when you've worked up some warmth and then you need to get out the hard shell jacket when the wind blows or it snows. Keep your hands warm, I wouldn't skimp on gloves and facial protection. Staying dry is the best bit of advice. If you're in deep snow and in a group locator beacons are advisable as is a shovel. Don't underestimate the avalanche risks, even below the tree line.
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Re: Winter outdoor clothing

SmartWool do a nice line of next to skin (NTS) layers as well as middle layers. However, I would also suggest this outfit:

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Re: Winter outdoor clothing

If you suffer from cold hands easily try this:

http://www.amazon.de/Sparpack-2-Hand...d_rhf_dp_shvl3

It's a bit smelly but keeps you warm for about 3hours.
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Re: Winter outdoor clothing

I picked up a pair of Haglof soft-shell "omni-pants" at the weekend - half price

The are basically warmer than hiking trousers - but cooler than ski trousers - and useful for, as the name suggests, everything.

As mentioned by everyone else - keep it layers and wicking. You don't want the sweat staying close to the body - the wind picking up - and freezing your proverbials off. Thin thermal base layers - as tight as you can get is a good start - the classic Hellly Hansen ones work well. If you are hiking/snowshoeing between sun and shade be prepared to quickly layer up/off - also remember you will be exercising quite hard!

If you do a lot of a specific type of exercise - then get the right kit. Cross country skiing (for me) is just a pair of thermals under-trousers - and then fleece lined running tights on top. Not exactly sexy - but hey, I'm married and no longer have to try!!!

Most importantly though - a hat, some gloves - and a wind proof jacket (arguably the best you can afford/justify) should finish off the outfit.

And finally - make sure you have sunglasses with you - if the sun is out - it will get very bright very quickly!
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and then fleece lined running tights on top. Not exactly sexy - but hey, I'm married and no longer have to try!!!

Most importantly though - a hat, some gloves - and a wind proof jacket (arguably the best you can afford/justify) should finish off the outf!
What I find frustrating is peeling off the layers when the body temperature starts to rise from the exertion, and then having to lug them around
Am still looking for some really decent, really light but warm layering.

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Re: Winter outdoor clothing

Thanks for your suggestions. I'm planning to make this my first winter where I stay away from the radiator inside - I hope it works out.


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I'm looking forward to spend time outdoors this winter but I'm unsure about what clothes I'd need, especially what kind of pants people wear.

The things I'd like to try are winter hiking, snow shoeing and x-country skiing. What it boils down to is that I'm not sure whether to get a pair of skiing pants or rather winter hiking pants. Thanks in advance for your advice!
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What I find frustrating is peeling off the layers when the body temperature starts to rise from the exertion, and then having to lug them around
Am still looking for some really decent, really light but warm layering.
Most of the time I'm fine with 3 layers for active sports outdoors in winter.

A thin thermal inner layer that wicks moisture away from the body and keeps you dry - and so warm.
A middle layer - either a thin fleece or something like that.
A wind proof/water-proof shell.

The trick to regulating your heat is to add or remove your hat and/or outer layers as you get warm or cold.

The other thing is to accept that you should start of slightly cold knowing that you will soon warm up.

I also always carry a spare warm top and thermals which only go on after the activity is finished or in an emergency.
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Re: Winter outdoor clothing

Who says you have to spend money?

Texas Gortex- Spraying waterproof on your blue jeans
Texas Gaiters- Duct tape waterproofed jeans to your boots
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On a serious note, Cotton kills. Avoid it at all costs. Thats the best advice I can give.
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