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Ski underwear. Does it worth to spend much money?

Hey, a friend has bought some from "spider" or "x-bionic" and he recommended me if I don't want to get "freezed"... I always used the typical underwear from cotton. I thought it's the best for cold days!

Does it worth to spend that amount of money?

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Re: Ski underwear. Does it worth to spend much money?

Cotton would get sweaty and stay wet. Anything polyester/nylon would be better.
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Re: Ski underwear. Does it worth to spend much money?

Depends how much you feel the cold,

I find the clothing that Aldis sells perfectly suitable and have never yet been cold skiing in as low as -20C. C&A in germany also do some higher quality polyester or wool based under garments that ar really very good.

What you are best to look at is a decent balaclava, socks and gloves that is where you will feel the cold first. After that decent under garments and decent ski clothing does the trick but you certainly dont need the top range stuff.
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Cotton would get sweaty and stay wet. Anything polyester/nylon would be better.
In the Northeast US hiking community we have a saying: "Cotton kills". When it gets wet (precipitation or sweat) it stays wet. My one question is: How much do you sweat in lift based skiing?

Basic polypro does as good a job as the much more expensive heavily advertised brands.
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In the Northeast US hiking community we have a saying: "Cotton kills". When it gets wet (precipitation or sweat) it stays wet. My one question is: How much do you sweat in lift based skiing?

Basic polypro does as good a job as the much more expensive heavily advertised brands.

How much you sweat probably depends on your skiing style. Some are just slithering down the mountain using energy only to keep up the blood circuit, others are actually skiing and could get hot and sweaty indeed

Personally I have found that functional underwear from Migros or Tchibo does it's job perfectly for me.
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Basic polypro does as good a job as the much more expensive heavily advertised brands.
I wore polypro for years - great for warmth, even when wet. BUt it does tend to cling to the bad smells of rivers and perspiration, rather than soap powder.

Now, I swear by the very fine knitted underlay of fine merino wool, using the "Icebreaker" brand. many of their tops can be worn as outer layers too.
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Re: Ski underwear. Does it worth to spend much money?

thank you all for the usefull information.

I am not the type who sweats a lot, the oposite...
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My one question is: How much do you sweat in lift based skiing?
Standing looking down the 'Zielhang' of the Lauberhorn Downhill - a lot. If you go down moguls fast - quite a bit. If you fall a lot and have to keep picking yourself up and getting yourself sorted out - a lot. If you go into packed restaurants for lunch, sitting sandwiched between a mass of other skiers, and wearing the sort of clothing which would be far too warm in the living room at home - quite a bit.
Nothing like cross-country though.

I certainly wouldn't recommend cotton underwear - just on the off-chance I might get too warm and sweat. However good ones outer clothing, going up any sort of lift with wet clothing on ones skin is not my idea of fun. It doesn't have to be the most expensive stuff though.

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Now, I swear by the very fine knitted underlay of fine merino wool, using the "Icebreaker" brand. many of their tops can be worn as outer layers too.
My daughters too. I've inherited their 'old-fashioned stuff' of the ODLO variety!
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Re: Ski underwear. Does it worth to spend much money?

Just ran into this informative article: Underwear (Base Layer): How to Choose. It is from a US retailer, but I hope that it is generic enough to be a general interest.
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Just ran into this informative article: Underwear (Base Layer): How to Choose. It is from a US retailer, but I hope that it is generic enough to be a general interest.
Nice comparison, covers it quite thoroughly.

I would like to add my vote to the wool party. For almost any outdoor activities during the year round I wear wool underwear, in cold conditions it can literally save your life compared with most other fabrics, and even for warm conditions it regulates heat quite nicely and doesn't smell (until after roughly a week or so for me : ).

It is a bit expensive, but if you are into hiking or any other outdoor activities it is a great investment, I even wear my wool shirt during those freezing winter days in ZH. There are quite many types and brands out there, merino wool is nice because it doesn't itch but there are also some wool/synthetic blends that are nice (and claim to be somewhat best of both worlds). Having a zipper on the neck of the shirt is useful for warmer temperature, I use it a lot to help me regulate the heat. I'm not an expert on the brands, since most of my stuff is from a local one at home, but smartwool is quite known, most of the big outdoor brands make merino wool underwear (north face, arcteryx, ..), woolpower is a Swedish brand that makes awesome socks at least, just to name a few.

Anyway, wool is awesome.
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Depends how much you feel the cold,

I find the clothing that Aldis sells perfectly suitable and have never yet been cold skiing in as low as -20C. C&A in germany also do some higher quality polyester or wool based under garments that ar really very good.

What you are best to look at is a decent balaclava, socks and gloves that is where you will feel the cold first. After that decent under garments and decent ski clothing does the trick but you certainly dont need the top range stuff.
Good advice. Aldi's sport clothing is excellent and reasonably-priced. The only problem is that they don't offer clothing all the time so keep an eye on their ads.
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Hey, a friend has bought some from "spider" or "x-bionic" and he recommended me if I don't want to get "freezed"... I always used the typical underwear from cotton. I thought it's the best for cold days!

Does it worth to spend that amount of money?

Thanks

spyder is a fashion ski wear brand, if people are happy to pay over 1000chf for a nasty looking polyester puff jacket just for the name or buy into the advertising hype then thats upto them. in reality the items on sale in aldi and lidl by crane sports are amazing value for money and perfectly functional.

i often have a base layer from crane when riding my motorbike in winter it can bewell into minus figures, windchill of 120 kmh (honestly officer) and im still quite warm.
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spyder is a fashion ski wear brand, if people are happy to pay over 1000chf for a nasty looking polyester puff jacket just for the name or buy into the advertising hype then thats upto them. in reality the items on sale in aldi and lidl by crane sports are amazing value for money and perfectly functional.

i often have a base layer from crane when riding my motorbike in winter it can bewell into minus figures, windchill of 120 kmh (honestly officer) and im still quite warm.
that's what I said to my friend, but he said that those clothes are engineered to be much more effective blablabla......

aldi? mmmmmmmmmmm
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spyder is a fashion ski wear brand, if people are happy to pay over 1000chf for a nasty looking polyester puff jacket just for the name or buy into the advertising hype then thats upto them. in reality the items on sale in aldi and lidl by crane sports are amazing value for money and perfectly functional.

i often have a base layer from crane when riding my motorbike in winter it can bewell into minus figures, windchill of 120 kmh (honestly officer) and im still quite warm.
Let's be fair; the stuff from Aldi doesn't look near as good as Spyder gear (most of which, by the way, retails for a lot less than 1000 chf). But if you don't care about the look, the yes, that stuff is plenty good enough.

Edit: to be clear, I don't wear Spyder. I'm getting Mountain Force this year, so I've got no horse in this race.
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that's what I said to my friend, but he said that those clothes are engineered to be much more effective blablabla......

aldi? mmmmmmmmmmm
I would compare both labels - quite probably the same fabric. Why pay 900+ Fr more for the same item just because of the label? After all, who is going see it given that it is underwear?
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After all, who is going see it given that it is underwear?
Perhaps you and I attend different après skis.
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I would compare both labels - quite probably the same fabric. Why pay 900+ Fr more for the same item just because of the label? After all, who is going see it given that it is underwear?
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Re: Ski underwear. Does it worth to spend much money?

X-bionic is "functional" compression under garments and will have little effect on warmth vs classic odlo or whatever but is purposefully really tight to lower fatigue and help recovery.

I've never tried more than compression socks, but most people who try those from xbionic or other makes are positive that they do help. I will certainly be using mine on the slopes this year, as I think lowering the swelling and expansion of the lower legs will avoid ski boot discomfort.

As to whether its worth the money that's your call. Just like you can get a 10 CHF watch to tell you the time...
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