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Old 24.10.2013, 17:12
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Re: I simpy can't lose weight ? :-S any advice ??

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Yeah, sugar in coffee is my vice too. Only one though.
I used to dump a ton of sugar and milk in mine. Now it's only black for me. Except the occasional splash of aquardiente.
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Old 24.10.2013, 17:16
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when you cut calories your metabolism will slow down to adapt, so weight loss will be difficult. you gotta hit your muscles with high intensity exercises (not so long duration, but hard work) to ramp up your metabolism while dieting
Is there a source for this pearl of wisdom? Cos although I can find a few google hits to support it they're all on websites which ultimately are making money out of the 'deiting' industry. I often find the NHS site good for an impartial, what's the current accepted wisdom, sort of view http://www.nhs.uk/livewell/loseweigh...etabolism.aspx
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Old 24.10.2013, 17:24
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Yeah, sugar in coffee is my vice too. Only one though.
Your only vice is putting a bit of sugar in your morning coffee? You otherwise consume no sugar/alcohol/stuff that might be "bad" for you? Ever?
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Old 24.10.2013, 17:25
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Re: I simpy can't lose weight ? :-S any advice ??

I too often refer to the NHS site for good, impartial information.

From your attached article, one point in particular stood out for me: 'the lower your muscle mass, the slower your metabolism', which I had not been aware of.
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Old 24.10.2013, 17:28
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Re: I simpy can't lose weight ? :-S any advice ??

Eat cake, be happy and die young.

Don't make the pension crisis worse!
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Old 24.10.2013, 17:45
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Personally I find this new/current "Sugar is bad, especially white sugar" orthodoxy almost as annoying as the years of low-fat spiel.

As for replacing sugar with alternatives - why? Surely it's better by far to cut out or reduce all the uncontrolled sugars in shop-bought pre-prepared foods than to focus on the very small amount of sugar you'd actually be able to replace in your own intake?
I agree with this. I think moderation is the key really.
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Old 24.10.2013, 17:47
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Your only vice is putting a bit of sugar in your morning coffee? You otherwise consume no sugar/alcohol/stuff that might be "bad" for you? Ever?
I think he means only one sugar in the coffee not that he only has one vice.

I'm sure he's admitted to drinking the odd glass of wine or a G&T somewhere else on the forum.
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Old 24.10.2013, 18:29
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I think he means only one sugar in the coffee not that he only has one vice.

I'm sure he's admitted to drinking the odd glass of wine or a G&T somewhere else on the forum.

a-ha (as they say in Despicable Me - "Light Bulb"...) I think you are right! I don't drink coffee so I don't pay attention to the nuances, and in my household sugar usually comes in the granular and not cube form, so saying just 1 for sugar didn't register
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Old 24.10.2013, 19:25
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I think he means only one sugar in the coffee not that he only has one vice.

I'm sure he's admitted to drinking the odd glass of wine or a G&T somewhere else on the forum.
I've got loads of vices
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Old 24.10.2013, 19:39
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I've got loads of vices
I hope so, the fact that your kids don't watch TV already makes me very suspicious! I mean, do you actually talk to them or something?
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Old 24.10.2013, 19:43
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Is there a source for this pearl of wisdom? Cos although I can find a few google hits to support it they're all on websites which ultimately are making money out of the 'deiting' industry. I often find the NHS site good for an impartial, what's the current accepted wisdom, sort of view http://www.nhs.uk/livewell/loseweigh...etabolism.aspx
Brilliant link, thanks.

I'm currently arguing with my private fitness coach, who want me to do the new fast diet, where you starve for two days and then eat everything you want the third one. He looked aghast when I asked him for scientific studies proving such a diet works long time...
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From your attached article, one point in particular stood out for me: 'the lower your muscle mass, the slower your metabolism', which I had not been aware of.
Have you been living under a rock?
We got told that by our gym teacher back in 1996. Why he then chose to make a class made up exclusively of teenage girls mostly do aerobic exercise of the kind that involved jumping up and down is, of course, a TOTAL mystery to me. But that's a different story entirely.

What is so hard to believe about someone not drinking/not smoking/avoiding things that are bad for you? Isn't it odd that the unhealthy behaviour is the accepted norm while telling people you don't drink, thank you very much, elicits all sorts of negative reactions. You can drink all you want, really, no problem, just don't puke on my shoes.
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Old 24.10.2013, 19:49
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What is so hard to believe about someone not drinking/not smoking/avoiding things that are bad for you? Isn't it odd that the unhealthy behaviour is the accepted norm while telling people you don't drink, thank you very much, elicits all sorts of negative reactions. You can drink all you want, really, no problem, just don't puke on my shoes.
not sure if that is directed at me, but if it is, it is because I might then think that the person who only eats sticks and carrots and is so disciplined to not indulge in something that might be "bad" isn't any fun... I guess I am prejudiced in that way.

And I can drink without having to puke on your or anyone else's shoes. Unless you make me drink more than 2 Maß at Oktoberfest in a 4 hour period of time. Then I might have a problem. Note, I have never drunk more than 2 Maß during a 4 hour period of time. Well, at least not since being a proper adult...beers weren't measured in Maß form in grad school so I couldn't say for sure on that one
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Old 24.10.2013, 20:11
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I hope so, the fact that your kids don't watch TV already makes me very suspicious! I mean, do you actually talk to them or something?
Talk - no.

Tonight they've been playing with their toy cars, Lego and read from some books.

No TV but they do watch DVDs.

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not sure if that is directed at me, but if it is, it is because I might then think that the person who only eats sticks and carrots and is so disciplined to not indulge in something that might be "bad" isn't any fun... I guess I am prejudiced in that way.
I think you're right. I hope you didn't think I was like that? There's not much I don't eat and drink but it's all in moderation (most of the time )
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Old 24.10.2013, 20:13
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From your attached article, one point in particular stood out for me: 'the lower your muscle mass, the slower your metabolism', which I had not been aware of.
Actually it's not muscle mass but just total mass.

The greater the mass, the higher the metabolic rate.

That ruins a few excuses, doesn't it.

Although this new study today suggests there could be a slow metabolism due to mutated DNA in some obese people.

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Old 24.10.2013, 20:21
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I think you're right. I hope you didn't think I was like that? There's not much I don't eat and drink but it's all in moderation (most of the time )
Nah - I'll save that prejudice for Vegan Chef
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I can't, and never would be able to, drink coffee without sugar, for example.
Whereas my wife and I can't, and would never, take it WITH sugar!

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Old 25.10.2013, 08:47
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Actually it's not muscle mass but just total mass.
Not "just" total mass. From the previous linked article:
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Old 25.10.2013, 08:51
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Not "just" total mass. From the previous linked article:
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Muscle cells require more energy to maintain than fat cells, so people with a higher muscle to fat ratio tend to have a higher BMR.

So you agree that fat cells require energy too?
So therefore someone with more fat cells than someone else, with everything else being equal, will burn more energy.

Therefore total mass is valid.
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Re: I simpy can't lose weight ? :-S any advice ??

You are aware Tom that the fat cells we have effectively remains constants -but the size of them grows - or something along those lines. If I get time I'll dig the information out.

It is one of the reasons liposuction is such a bad idea.

Anyway - as mentioned before, when it comes to walk/running, the approximate calorie burn is 1 cal per kg per km. If you are a fatty chub chub it will take more energy to walk to the shops to buy a bar of chocolate than it would for a skinny person.

Which is why the fat person can have the chocolate and the skinny one a bottle of water
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