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Electric mountain bikes (or regular types)... anyone got one?

I am seriously considering an electric mountain bike. Before you inevitably cry "Hahaha pussehhhhhhh" the solid reason is that I fizzle out on hills very quickly and simply don't have the stamina to tackle them. Even in my youthful prime I was always a sprinter who died after 800m. I am perfectly happy to receive some subtle shakes of the head from other riders in return for actually keeping up.

Thus, I think an electric mountain bike will really help with providing some grunt up hills and actually allow me to enjoy long rides in Switzerland this Summer that include some serious hills, as well as enabling me to commute to work without being drenched in sweat.

So, to this end I have been doing some research and I see things have really progressed and the top manufacturers now have some seriously sexy mountain e-bikes for sale with top of the line components. In addition, the newest Bosch electric drive motor is excellent, never providing pedal-less action but assisting to whatever level you choose, from nothing on the flats and shallower inclines, to a good assist on the steeps, allowing you to actually make it up without getting off and pushing.

Here is a group test http://ebike-mtb.com/en/group-test-n...in-comparison/

The Cube Stereo Hybrid 140SL full review is here http://ebike-mtb.com/en/e-mountainbi...d-140-sl-2016/

The Cube series looks like a great proposition, weight is around 20KG so still carry-able, and thankfully I get a "green" allowance from work that will potentially allow me to purchase one of these with little financial hit on my self.

So, has anyone else had experience with these, or electric bikes using these motors in general?
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Re: Electric mountain bikes (or regular types)... anyone got one?

Go for it. Seriously.
E-mtb's are amazing.

Forget the "puseh" bastards, nobody's knees will hold forever.
In ten years everyone will be riding electric. Except maybe one or two purists, and a few strava roadies

The main drawback these days is still the price.
The initial purchase, and maintenance.

Keep in mind all bike components will be stressed out up to 300% of what they are made for. So you are looking to changing your tyres, brake pads, drivetrain parts a lot more often. If you'll use it to go to work that could be up to 2-3 times a year. Thats not going to be cheap.
Just something to keep in mind.

Then theres battery capacity. MTB's are not very eficient, so range is fairly limmited. It all depends what do you consider a "long ride"? Check the bosch range calcuation app and a map, before you embark on a life changing journey
http://www.bosch-ebike.de/en/service...assistent.html


Otherwise - happy riding.

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Old 31.03.2016, 13:32
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Re: Electric mountain bikes (or regular types)... anyone got one?

Haha, pusseh!

Can I have my biscuit now?

On a more serious note, see if Bikeradar have any eMTB reviews. It's always my 1st stop for biking-related news and reviews.
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Go for it. Seriously.
E-mtb's are amazing.

Forget the "puseh" bastards, nobody's knees will hold forever.
In ten years everyone will be riding electric. Except maybe one or two purists, and a few strava roadies

The main drawback these days is still the price.
The initial purchase, and maintenance.

Keep in mind all bike components will be stressed out up to 300% of what they are made for. So you are looking to changing your tyres, brake pads, drivetrain parts a lot more often. If you'll use it to go to work that could be up to 2-3 times a year. Thats not going to be cheap.
Just something to keep in mind.

Then theres battery capacity. MTB's are not very eficient, so range is fairly limmited. It all depends what do you consider a "long ride"? Check the bosch range calcuation app and a map, before you embark on a life changing journey
http://www.bosch-ebike.de/en/service...assistent.html


Otherwise - happy riding.
Thanks for the thoughts and I agree 100%, n-one should feel bad for buying one and personally I don't care if anyone looks down on the concept, more fool them. There's a good article here that goes into a guys impressions after 3000km, and thus far the guy has done very little maintenance and not managed to drain the battery with frugal use on 80KM routes with climbs. Plus I am a reasonably light guy at 70KG so further reduction in stress on the motor.
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Re: Electric mountain bikes (or regular types)... anyone got one?

I test rode one a few years back in Amden and it was an absolute giggle - the more effort you put in the more the battery gave - it made riding uphill a freaky experience. I didn't get far enough to judge overall off-road capability or battery life on a long ride uphill.

For the casual cyclist I can see "Electro" being useful in getting people on to bikes who wouldn't have traditionally - although having been knocked off by one who had bugger all road-skills I'd question whether a basic skills test shouldn't be required.

For the real cyclist who gets enjoyment out of conquering a long ride/big hill then "organic" will remain the way forward. The sense of achievement of cycling over one of the Alpine passes is really rather good.

Maybe my thoughts will change once I get as old as you Richdog
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Re: Electric mountain bikes (or regular types)... anyone got one?

I have been looking in them, but i like downhill too much, it's indeed a shame that a bike that's made for downhilling is an absolute disaster to ride up, and that bikes that go up properly can't be used to go crazy when downhilling.

Also the thought that if i would fall that i could have a 20KG (or more) bike following me makes me hesitate.

And yeah by the time i cycled up Uetli i also need a rest before i can do whatever else
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I test rode one a few years back in Amden and it was an absolute giggle - the more effort you put in the more the battery gave - it made riding uphill a freaky experience. I didn't get far enough to judge overall off-road capability or battery life on a long ride uphill.

For the casual cyclist I can see "Electro" being useful in getting people on to bikes who wouldn't have traditionally - although having been knocked off by one who had bugger all road-skills I'd question whether a basic skills test shouldn't be required.

For the real cyclist who gets enjoyment out of conquering a long ride/big hill then "organic" will remain the way forward. The sense of achievement of cycling over one of the Alpine passes is really rather good.

Maybe my thoughts will change once I get as old as you Richdog
Personally I'd rather have the achievement of getting up a mountain at all on an electric bike than not at all on a regular bike, I don't suffer from any sense of misplaced pride that would stop me doing things like that so that aspect isn't really of any concern to me. I'll still get a good workout with the lowest assist needed to make it up there.

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Re: Electric mountain bikes (or regular types)... anyone got one?

Look at this month's TCS touring magazine. Lot of info about e-bikes.

https://www.tcs.ch/fr/membres-avanta...azine-touring/
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Old 01.04.2016, 13:14
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Re: Electric mountain bikes (or regular types)... anyone got one?

We have regular e-bikes and love them. Sure, the purists may act superior, but if it is going out on an e-bike and getting a long ride in as well as a decent workout vs. sitting at home doing nothing, the e-bike wins every time! Plus, it's fun passing them on the way up sometimes
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Plus, it's fun passing them on the way up sometimes
It is way more fun the other way round

Its also fun overtaking 30kmh limited vehicles
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It is way more fun the other way round

Its also fun overtaking 30kmh limited vehicles
even more fun over taking cars and then blocking them from over-taking you.
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even more fun over taking cars and then blocking them from over-taking you.
I do miss the Disco. You could knock a cyclist off and crush then under almost 3 tons of British metal without noticing.
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Re: Electric mountain bikes (or regular types)... anyone got one?

Got admit, after an aggressive cancer recurrence that put me in hospital for a few weeks I lost a lot of weight but worse lost a lot of muscle so I'm seriously considering getting an electric mountain bike. Stockli also do electric mountain bikes at competitive prices and they are having a demo/try one event today, tomorrow and Sunday (selected locations).
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Re: Electric mountain bikes (or regular types)... anyone got one?

5 years ago: My new one is a Bergamont with a Bosch 500 Motor. After the age of about 65 and living on a hill, it used to take very good conditions to tempt me out onto the road. The thought of the first 50m 'ascent' before I was warmed up put me off completely. An e-bike made riding fun again. Last year I did the Acherli Pass with my daughter which is 1000m gain in altitude.
I recommend e-bikes to anyone who loves riding but who is finding their age against them. It's not a lazy way - it allows me to risk going a bit further as I know I have help on the last bit of the run back home if I need it.
Mine isn't a mountain bike of course, but I stll say, Atta boy. Go for it.
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Re: Electric mountain bikes (or regular types)... anyone got one?

As I ride steel instead of Alu for bike frames I can't help here with your new fangled nonsense. Next you'd be suggesting larger wheel sizes
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As I ride steel instead of Alu for bike frames I can't help here with your new fangled nonsense. Next you'd be suggesting larger wheel sizes
Or even both wheels the same size!
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Re: Electric mountain bikes (or regular types)... anyone got one?

So the wife and I tried some electric bikes at the Stockli event and loved them, the amount of assistance is adjustable so you can still get a good workout but it takes the pain out of the hills!

If you stick to one that is limited to 25km/h then above that you get no support but also don't need a little number plate.

I tried the Cross and the Beryll, coming out personally with a preference for the Cross, which has a wheel motor as opposed to a crank motor and gives a little more support at the low speeds, the Beryll is a mountain bike lighter and more agile, but with the crank motor you only get gears on the rear ... with the cross you get front and rear gears so a bit more riding flexibility but you lose a little agility it's a heavier more robust bike.
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As I ride steel instead of Alu for bike frames I can't help here with your new fangled nonsense. Next you'd be suggesting larger wheel sizes
I hear you can buy bikes with pedals - which seems overly complicated if you ask me.

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Re: Electric mountain bikes (or regular types)... anyone got one?

Just bought a Trek Powerfly+ 9 , loving it
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Re: Electric mountain bikes (or regular types)... anyone got one?

If you have a mountain bike you really like it is possible to convert it to an e-bike, I'm sure there are good and and bad kits and it will probably be a case of you get what you pay for.

Having done some investigation I am seriously considering Bionx D250 conversion which are available in Switzerland though they only seem to be available via mail order and knowing my luck with mechanical jobs I'd rather have someone do the work for me.

I'm going to contact the Swiss distributor direct and see if they can point me in the right direction or whether they can do it as they are local to me
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